beebrisk
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Re: Use birth control pills to prevent pregnancy? You're fir
Who said anything about anyone being "dumb"?
As I said before, employers don't have the right to know your medical background. They also don't have the obligation to provide anything to you besides your wages and a decent working environment. They can legally deny health benefits entirely. What part of that does anyone disagree with??
While I don't think my stance on "getting pregnant" is quite as black and white as you say, I do take a very strong stance on personal responsibility, which means keeping both my employer AND the government out of my business. My body, my pregnancy, my business.
ericad|1331911378|3149998 said:beebrisk|1331909848|3149983 said:Circe|1331908103|3149973 said:To sum up: if you can't afford to have a baby (finance being one of the biggest reasons women are terminating pregnancies, according to recent studies), you'd still better have a couple of hundred/thousand lying around to cover an unnecessary medical procedure, a couple of days worth of lost wages, transportation, etc.
I hate to be blithe, but how long do we give it before women start resorting to back-alley solutions and suffering again?
Here's a solution. Can't afford a baby? Don't get pregnant. Preventing pregnancy is not rocket science. It's pretty basic, actually. Of course accidents happen but usually not if you are being responsible. Somehow I have managed my whole life not to get pregnant. That was my choice and I knew what to do (and, frankly, what not to do!). As we are all interested in the "health" of women, we should remember that having no pregnancy is obviously "safer" for us than the act of terminating one.
Yes, I know, there's the argument about the "life of the mother, etc...", but lets face it, the vast majority of pregnancies that are terminated are not done so because the mother's life is in danger.
When does "Our Bodies Ourselves" become "Our Bodies Ourselves and Our Own Responsibility"? After 30+ years of women shouting to keep the government out of their uteruses, they seem more than willing right now to have the government pay for what goes in and comes out of those uteruses.
Wow breebrisk, this is a very black and white perspective to a complex solution. Women should stop getting pregnant and use birthcontrol that insurance should cease to cover (and employers should be allowed to shame women into not using.) Hmmm, wonder which groups of women will be most impacted by this? The ones who can afford to pay for BC out of pocket or to walk away from a job that pays the bills because they don't like the new rules? Not likely.
Let me share something personal with you. I come from an upper middle class family. I'm highly educated and grew up with plenty of knowledge about my body. More than most, I'd say. I utilized Planned Parenthood to obtain BC pills when I was in my teens and avoided pregnancy just fine because I had a place to go where no questions were asked and pills were $5/month. Then, in my early adult years I had to get off the pill due to some hormonal side effects that weren't working well for me (after trying several different types of pill and working with my doctor). Despite utilizing other methods of BC (non-pill), after getting married I became accidentally pregnant twice. I guess that makes me pretty dumb, eh? After all, it's not rocket science.
Who said anything about anyone being "dumb"?
As I said before, employers don't have the right to know your medical background. They also don't have the obligation to provide anything to you besides your wages and a decent working environment. They can legally deny health benefits entirely. What part of that does anyone disagree with??
While I don't think my stance on "getting pregnant" is quite as black and white as you say, I do take a very strong stance on personal responsibility, which means keeping both my employer AND the government out of my business. My body, my pregnancy, my business.