katharath
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telephone89|1487627254|4131330 said:This guy is my new favourite.
I'll have to follow him, thanks for posting!
telephone89|1487627254|4131330 said:This guy is my new favourite.
Good to know where people draw the line.katharath|1487627287|4131332 said:
omg the last one!katharath|1487627287|4131332 said:
lovedogs|1487627675|4131336 said:Good to know where people draw the line.katharath|1487627287|4131332 said:
telephone89|1487627717|4131337 said:omg the last one!katharath|1487627287|4131332 said:
redwood66|1487627440|4131335 said:jaaron - I am totally behind a free press that operates on facts with investigative journalism. If he does something stupid by all means report it. But the Op Ed laden media that is being used as news is not that. Too much opinion and not enough investigation before printing to gain clicks is dangerous also. So many links even here on PS are to opinion articles that people take for truth. If it turns our wrong, the correction is never noted with as much hoopla as the original.
jaaron|1487628116|4131342 said:redwood66|1487627440|4131335 said:jaaron - I am totally behind a free press that operates on facts with investigative journalism. If he does something stupid by all means report it. But the Op Ed laden media that is being used as news is not that. Too much opinion and not enough investigation before printing to gain clicks is dangerous also. So many links even here on PS are to opinion articles that people take for truth. If it turns our wrong, the correction is never noted with as much hoopla as the original.
Well, I suppose the belief of the framers was that they were dealing with an electorate intelligent enough to differentiate between fact and opinion. This last election cycle appears to have shown that not to be the case. I'm pleased to hear that you are apparently then, by default, not a Fox News fan.
Apologies for de-railing this thread. Back to the tweets.
redwood66|1487628320|4131343 said:jaaron|1487628116|4131342 said:redwood66|1487627440|4131335 said:jaaron - I am totally behind a free press that operates on facts with investigative journalism. If he does something stupid by all means report it. But the Op Ed laden media that is being used as news is not that. Too much opinion and not enough investigation before printing to gain clicks is dangerous also. So many links even here on PS are to opinion articles that people take for truth. If it turns our wrong, the correction is never noted with as much hoopla as the original.
Well, I suppose the belief of the framers was that they were dealing with an electorate intelligent enough to differentiate between fact and opinion. This last election cycle appears to have shown that not to be the case. I'm pleased to hear that you are apparently then, by default, not a Fox News fan.
Apologies for de-railing this thread. Back to the tweets.
This is why the media concerns me. You say you are a journalist but then make this kind of statement.
jaaron|1487630156|4131363 said:No. I don't.
jaaron|1487629497|4131356 said:redwood66|1487628320|4131343 said:jaaron|1487628116|4131342 said:redwood66|1487627440|4131335 said:jaaron - I am totally behind a free press that operates on facts with investigative journalism. If he does something stupid by all means report it. But the Op Ed laden media that is being used as news is not that. Too much opinion and not enough investigation before printing to gain clicks is dangerous also. So many links even here on PS are to opinion articles that people take for truth. If it turns our wrong, the correction is never noted with as much hoopla as the original.
Well, I suppose the belief of the framers was that they were dealing with an electorate intelligent enough to differentiate between fact and opinion. This last election cycle appears to have shown that not to be the case. I'm pleased to hear that you are apparently then, by default, not a Fox News fan.
Apologies for de-railing this thread. Back to the tweets.
This is why the media concerns me. You say you are a journalist but then make this kind of statement.
Yes, I am speaking personally--not politically--and with he understanding that my personal opinion is coloured by my professional experience and observation. During the years I was a working journalist, I was registered as an independent and voted across the board. When I was covering anything remotely related to politics, I didn't vote, although I was a reporter, not an editorial writer, so I did not opine, although, as I said earlier, there is always bias in the stories a reporter will push to have covered. Most of us did not go into the industry for the glory (ha), the pay (horrible), or the cushy hours (lol) or to push our political beliefs on others-- we did (do) it because we believe in the public's right to know.
I think Trump is awful and is going to make an awful president. I understand and respect that others don't feel the same way. They have every right to vote the way they see fit. I do think that Trump was held to the lowest standard of accountability of any candidate, certainly in modern history, and that he is now on a mission to try to ensure that nothing critical that is written about him is given any credence. And when the public reacts to press by suggesting they be lynched (following the president's lead), I think we have an electorate not intelligent enough to understand that they are willingly inching toward throwing away their own rights and freedoms.
I also think voters might not agree with Slate or The New York Times or The National Review, or whatever, but if they can't or won't bother to discern disagreement with an editorial position from the allegation that Hillary Clinton is running a pedophile ring out of a pizzeria, then, yes, I do believe they lack critical intelligence.
katharath|1487631368|4131381 said:
let's all stop and feel bad for him.katharath|1487631471|4131383 said:Poor baby
Calliecake|1487631801|4131390 said:Kath, These are great. I feel badly for those who are in a bad position regarding healthcare. They seem to think Trump is going to save the day for them.
lovedogs|1487632026|4131394 said:let's all stop and feel bad for him.katharath|1487631471|4131383 said:Poor baby
katharath|1487632675|4131400 said:Calliecake|1487631801|4131390 said:Kath, These are great. I feel badly for those who are in a bad position regarding healthcare. They seem to think Trump is going to save the day for them.
Thanks, Callie.
Yes, it is a strange situation - so many of them had no idea that Obamacare was the health insurance that they were happy to have!
I appreciate the time you took to make your views known. There is media on all sides that lend toward the ridiculous. It is too bad that all voters are not discerning.
jaaron|1487635299|4131422 said:I appreciate the time you took to make your views known. There is media on all sides that lend toward the ridiculous. It is too bad that all voters are not discerning.
Thank you for your civil reply. I want to throw one more thing out - I'm not sure if you've ever been to Russia, but what you find there is not a populace who feels they live under the thumb of a tyrant, but a populace who believe they have a misunderstood, brilliant, dynamic, empathetic, strategist for a leader. And one of the reasons they feel that way is that they do not have a remotely free press and--while I'm sure there are ways around it--they don't really have free internet access either. The Russian people don't miss what they don't have. Americans have it and we need to not allow ourselves to be seduced into giving it away.
If you haven't already, Garry Kasparov's twitter feed is brilliant and fascinating. Very well worth a look.
https://twitter.com/Kasparov63?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
And now I'll return this thread to it's original purpose-- the orange one's tweets of insanity.