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[mariedtiger]

And another one from Sally.

 

[Lovinggems]

Lovely pieces MT, is the last piece a bracelet?

 

[mariedtiger]

It''s a bracelet with my pink sub carat sized pink spinels from Dan and John. I was at a loss about what to do with them since they were a bit too small for rings, so we came up with this with Sally.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 9/3/2009 4:20:21 AM
Author: mariedtiger
I've been very naughty...

This one is from Julia's Etsy shop.

marie, you already know how enamored I am with this design - it's going to be gorgeous!
Just a question, the main "bezel" around the top gem, what kind of detail will be in the metal there?

Also, do you have pics of the gems going into the settings? I'd love to see them

 

[mariedtiger]

Date: 9/3/2009 7:44:29 AM
Author: arjunajane

Date: 9/3/2009 4:20:21 AM

Author: mariedtiger

I''ve been very naughty...

This one is from Julia''s Etsy shop.

marie, you already know how enamored I am with this design - it''s going to be gorgeous!

Just a question, the main ''bezel'' around the top gem, what kind of detail will be in the metal there?


Also, do you have pics of the gems going into the settings? I''d love to see them

Here are the pictures, sorry for the lousy quality

I''m probably going to wear it out on the play ground, mostly [grin] - pendants are good because I don''t need to worry about getting play box sand in them like with rings.

The detail is a gravelly diamond like thing, I think. I have to ask Julia. Thanks for the lovely compliments, Sweetie.

Marie

 

[Arcadian]

Fantastic design maried tiger. Julia has such a good eye for designing. can''t wait to see it!

-A

 

[mariedtiger]

Thanks Arcadian, I know. Julia is really talented, and so nice to deal with. I really enjoyed how she handled the whole design process.

 

[D&T]

Marie- I love all your designs!

 

[T L]

Date: 9/3/2009 4:20:21 AM
Author: mariedtiger
I''ve been very naughty...

This one is from Julia''s Etsy shop.

Wow, you have some beautiful new pieces there MT!! I can''t wait to see the finished piece on that gorgeous design!! Yum!

 

[mariedtiger]

Thank you D&T and TL!!!

 

[LaurenThePartier]

MT, holy moly! You have some lovely pieces coming to you!!!

 

[mariedtiger]

Date: 9/3/2009 1:05:02 PM
Author: LaurenThePartier
MT, holy moly! You have some lovely pieces coming to you!!!

Thank you

Looking forward to them is one of my favorite parts. And then taking them for a sunny walk!

 

[LaurenThePartier]

Date: 9/3/2009 1:11:38 PM
Author: mariedtiger

Date: 9/3/2009 1:05:02 PM
Author: LaurenThePartier
MT, holy moly! You have some lovely pieces coming to you!!!

Thank you

Looking forward to them is one of my favorite parts. And then taking them for a sunny walk!

Yeah, I can''t wait to see the rope setting with the aqua in it. Right up my alley!

 

[LaurenThePartier]

So, ladies (and gentlemen) . . . I have a question.

How would you set this?

 

[D&T]

Date: 9/3/2009 1:45:03 PM
Author: LaurenThePartier
So, ladies (and gentlemen) . . . I have a question.

How would you set this?

LTP-Gorgeous!! did you get another stone!

 

[LaurenThePartier]

Date: 9/3/2009 1:55:54 PM
Author: D&T

Date: 9/3/2009 1:45:03 PM
Author: LaurenThePartier
So, ladies (and gentlemen) . . . I have a question.

How would you set this?

LTP-Gorgeous!! did you get another stone!

Yes! I should be getting it around the same time I get my spess. It''s a 6.57 ct. Ruby, with gentle heating.

So, D&T - what''s your thought on setting this? I don''t want a halo because it''s huge at 10.2 x 10.1 mm - but it''s also nearly 7mm deep.

 

[mariedtiger]

Date: 9/3/2009 2:19:58 PM
Author: LaurenThePartier

Date: 9/3/2009 1:55:54 PM

Author: D&T

Date: 9/3/2009 1:45:03 PM

Author: LaurenThePartier

So, ladies (and gentlemen) . . . I have a question.

How would you set this?

LTP-Gorgeous!! did you get another stone!

Yes! I should be getting it around the same time I get my spess. It's a 6.57 ct. Ruby, with gentle heating.


So, D&T - what's your thought on setting this? I don't want a halo because it's huge at 10.2 x 10.1 mm - but it's also nearly 7mm deep.

OMG that is humongous!!! What a beauty. What about sidestones for a setting? Or a gorgeous solitaire with an elaborate basket?

 

[LaurenThePartier]

Date: 9/3/2009 2:23:37 PM
Author: mariedtiger

Date: 9/3/2009 2:19:58 PM
Author: LaurenThePartier

Date: 9/3/2009 1:55:54 PM

Author: D&T

Date: 9/3/2009 1:45:03 PM

Author: LaurenThePartier

So, ladies (and gentlemen) . . . I have a question.

How would you set this?

LTP-Gorgeous!! did you get another stone!

Yes! I should be getting it around the same time I get my spess. It''s a 6.57 ct. Ruby, with gentle heating.


So, D&T - what''s your thought on setting this? I don''t want a halo because it''s huge at 10.2 x 10.1 mm - but it''s also nearly 7mm deep.

OMG that is humongous!!! What a beauty. What about sidestones for a setting? Or a gorgeous solitaire with an elaborate basket?

This is going to be a custom setting, I think. I may have to wait until I get it in hand to decide. The wait is going to kill me!

 

[Lovinggems]

LTP what a stunning ruby! How about some side traps or half moons? I''d love to see it as a 3 stone ring. May I ask where you got this beauty from?

 

[LaurenThePartier]

Date: 9/4/2009 7:40:32 AM
Author: Lovinggems
LTP what a stunning ruby! How about some side traps or half moons? I''d love to see it as a 3 stone ring. May I ask where you got this beauty from?

I think I''m with you Lovinggems! I just don''t know if my finger can handle 10+mm PLUS side traps. but we shall see.

I stalked pierreone''s post about her 3.29 ct. sapphire, and she recommended siamgold78 on Ebay. Her sapphire ended up unheated, but since I don''t mind a little gentle heat in my gemstones, I started looking at any of siamgold78''s auctions that were only for certified stones to cover my bases. Pierreone mentioned that she had bought from them before, so I felt a little better about the purchase.

I should receive it sometime late next week, and it''s going straight to my appraiser. After that . . . well, I think I may sit on this one for a bit before I decide on a setting.

 

[chrono]

Lauren,
That ruby looks too good to be true, even with gentle heat. A ruby of that colour and size is worth thousands of dollars.

 

[LaurenThePartier]

Date: 9/4/2009 10:31:45 AM
Author: Chrono
Lauren,
That ruby looks too good to be true, even with gentle heat. A ruby of that colour and size is worth thousands of dollars.

Chrono - it has certification with evidence of heat treatment by SLP Gem Labs (have you ever heard of them?), and Siamgold has a full return policy. What kind of treatments do you suspect? Fracture filled or BE? Think it's just glass?

 

[chrono]

I’ve never heard of SLP Gem Lab and can’t even find it in Yahoo or Google. I suspect fracture filling with possibly some photoshopping.

 

[LaurenThePartier]

Date: 9/4/2009 11:25:29 AM
Author: Chrono
I’ve never heard of SLP Gem Lab and can’t even find it in Yahoo or Google. I suspect fracture filling.

Just emailed the seller - I''m canceling this one. Don''t want to deal with shipping it back since I''m pretty sure I know what an appraiser will say now that I''ve been researching the seller''s background.

 

[chrono]

What did you find out about the seller's background? Do you mind sharing it here so that others learn more about him/her too?

 

[LaurenThePartier]

Date: 9/4/2009 11:34:29 AM
Author: Chrono
What did you find out about the seller's background? Do you mind sharing it here so that others learn more about him/her too?

History of selling treated rubies and none of her customers are any the wiser, but for some reason pierreone lucked out on her sapphire being the real deal.

The treatment is disclosed in a very flowery inconclusive text, buried in tons of excessive text on all of her auctions is this:

NOTE
... 99% of all ruby is heated up to 2000 degrees to enhance the red color and remove secondry colors of green and blue , during the process microscopic fractures within the stone are healed leaving microscopic traces of residue. This is commonly refered too as glass filling and it is a process which has become generally accepted by the worlds gem trade. You can be almost certain most heated ruby will have traces of glass filling. The amount obviously depends on the size of the fractures within the original raw stone. Those with very few fractures are the most sought after and prized as they retain most of their value. These are beautiful gems at a fraction of the price of unheated ruby. It is these top quality gems i search for and offer for sale.

... The cost of top unheated ruby is very high at around $3000 per carat which takes it out of the purchacing capacity of most people and you need to beware anyone selling unheated ruby at a bargain price. Genuine sellers of unheated ruby don,t sell it cheap and why would they when obtaining the market price is no problem. It just doesn,t happen so be careful and always ask for certification.

... i use the Gemological Institute of America (GIA) Type 2 grading scale for all my rubies. The GIA are probably the most internationally recognised institution for the grading of all gemstones.

 

[chrono]

Date: 9/4/2009 11:39:58 AM
Author: LaurenThePartier

Date: 9/4/2009 11:34:29 AM
Author: Chrono
What did you find out about the seller's background? Do you mind sharing it here so that others learn more about him/her too?

History of selling treated rubies and none of her customers are any the wiser, but for some reason pierreone lucked out on her sapphire being the real deal.

The treatment is disclosed in a very flowery inconclusive text, buried in tons of excessive text on all of her auctions is this:

NOTE
... 99% of all ruby is heated up to 2000 degrees to enhance the red color and remove secondry colors of green and blue , during the process microscopic fractures within the stone are healed leaving microscopic traces of residue. This is commonly refered too as glass filling and it is a process which has become generally accepted by the worlds gem trade. You can be almost certain most heated ruby will have traces of glass filling. The amount obviously depends on the size of the fractures within the original raw stone. Those with very few fractures are the most sought after and prized as they retain most of their value. These are beautiful gems at a fraction of the price of unheated ruby. It is these top quality gems i search for and offer for sale.

... The cost of top unheated ruby is very high at around $3000 per carat which takes it out of the purchacing capacity of most people and you need to beware anyone selling unheated ruby at a bargain price. Genuine sellers of unheated ruby don,t sell it cheap and why would they when obtaining the market price is no problem. It just doesn,t happen so be careful and always ask for certification.

... i use the Gemological Institute of America (GIA) Type 2 grading scale for all my rubies. The GIA are probably the most internationally recognised institution for the grading of all gemstones.

Heating is NOT commonly referred to as glass filling as she states. Heating is heating and glass filled is glass filled, which are 2 different procedures. That said, it is implied at all her stones are fracture filled. Good catch, Lauren.

 

[LaurenThePartier]

Date: 9/4/2009 11:53:32 AM
Author: Chrono

Date: 9/4/2009 11:39:58 AM
Author: LaurenThePartier

Date: 9/4/2009 11:34:29 AM
Author: Chrono
What did you find out about the seller's background? Do you mind sharing it here so that others learn more about him/her too?

History of selling treated rubies and none of her customers are any the wiser, but for some reason pierreone lucked out on her sapphire being the real deal.

The treatment is disclosed in a very flowery inconclusive text, buried in tons of excessive text on all of her auctions is this:

NOTE
... 99% of all ruby is heated up to 2000 degrees to enhance the red color and remove secondry colors of green and blue , during the process microscopic fractures within the stone are healed leaving microscopic traces of residue. This is commonly refered too as glass filling and it is a process which has become generally accepted by the worlds gem trade. You can be almost certain most heated ruby will have traces of glass filling. The amount obviously depends on the size of the fractures within the original raw stone. Those with very few fractures are the most sought after and prized as they retain most of their value. These are beautiful gems at a fraction of the price of unheated ruby. It is these top quality gems i search for and offer for sale.

... The cost of top unheated ruby is very high at around $3000 per carat which takes it out of the purchacing capacity of most people and you need to beware anyone selling unheated ruby at a bargain price. Genuine sellers of unheated ruby don,t sell it cheap and why would they when obtaining the market price is no problem. It just doesn,t happen so be careful and always ask for certification.

... i use the Gemological Institute of America (GIA) Type 2 grading scale for all my rubies. The GIA are probably the most internationally recognised institution for the grading of all gemstones.

Heating is NOT commonly referred to as glass filling as she states. Heating is heating and glass filled is glass filled, which are 2 different procedures. That said, it is implied at all her stones are fracture filled. Good catch, Lauren.

What's worse is the certification. Why would you offer certification for heat alone on a fracture filled stone?

It's intentionally deceptive, and I'm hating the fact that the store has such high ratings - 99.5% with only 1 neg feedback this year.

 

[Lovinggems]

Shame about the ruby LTP, hope you find the right stone to go with the side traps in the future!

 

[D&T]

bummer on the Ruby- can you report on ebay? or give neg feedback? and state your case about the glass filling on your description. You can usually leave feedback even if you cancel.