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Your opinions on this 0.9 diamond please

ccube

Rough_Rock
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Hello,

First of all I would like to thank all the forum members here who spend their valuable time to educate and help newbies like me.

I am looking to buy a diamond for my wife. This is the first time we are buying a diamond (online).
After reading previous posts on this forum and other online information I have shortlisted the following diamond.
I would like to get the opinion of the experts on this forum.

Here is the video:



GIA Report:


Depth is 62.9%, I know it is higher than the ideal range. I am not sure how much this affects in real life to the naked eye.
HCA Score is 1.6, which I think is pretty good ( but, I could be wrong).

Vendor says this diamond is eye clean. I see some inclusions in the video though.
GIA Report says Crystal in the inclusions list. Does it mean I should avoid this diamond?

This diamond will be set in a Halo ring with pave setting ( is that the right term?).
I would like to be around 0.9ct size range, that is the closest I can get to 1ct and still be in my budget. ( Around $4k).
I am looking for good sparkle and fire from the diamond.

Please let me know if I should include any other information.


Thank you in advance.

P.S: No ASET and Ideal Scope images available.
 

musicloveranthony

Shiny_Rock
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I don't like some of the inclusions in that stone. Because of the opaque color of them and where they are, they'll dance around a lot in the reflections and cause the stone to appear more included than it is
 

ccube

Rough_Rock
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Thank you all for your responses.

This diamond is priced at $3750.
 

ccube

Rough_Rock
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If you choose G or H color, you probably can get 1ct for the same price. There is no need for E color. Size is more obvious than color (until H) I think.

I could not find many options with those specifications around $4k price range. The ones I could find had too many obvious inclusions or proportions were not ideal.
 

ccube

Rough_Rock
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I wouldn't go for this because it will look small for the ct weight due to the large depth.

Any clue how much the difference in size would be between 62% depth and 62.9% depth with 0.9 carat weight?
 

ccube

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I don't like some of the inclusions in that stone. Because of the opaque color of them and where they are, they'll dance around a lot in the reflections and cause the stone to appear more included than it is

I wasn't too happy with those inclusions and your thoughts confirm that this is not be a good choice.
 

musicloveranthony

Shiny_Rock
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https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4361932.htm

I would look into this stone. It's cut very beautifully. It's very nicely sized. It's VERY clean. The only "issue" is that it's a "lower color."

I can reassure you that being as wonderfully cut as it is and being as clean as it is this stone will not look dark or ugly colored! From some angles it might have a hint of tone, but it is not going to be dark by any stretch of the imagination. It will also be a sparkle bomb! It's going to throw fireworks!
 

ccube

Rough_Rock
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Found another diamond in SI1 F/G. I would like to get your opinion on this one:

Video:

AGS Report:


I could only get one video, vendor does not have additional images or pictures. Does the diamond look clean? Does it look hazy? GIA Report shows: faint fluorescence. Does it affect the appearance of the diamond.

Please help.

Is this worth buying at $4k.
 

AllAboardTheBlingTrain

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Found another diamond in SI1 F/G. I would like to get your opinion on this one:

Video:

AGS Report:


I could only get one video, vendor does not have additional images or pictures. Does the diamond look clean? Does it look hazy? GIA Report shows: faint fluorescence. Does it affect the appearance of the diamond.

Please help.

Is this worth buying at $4k.

It looks good to me tbh but I’m blind as a bat and I can’t see any inclusions. On the report the only thing I can see that might cause issues is the feather near the edge - you might need to check if that would cause durability risk. There don’t seem to be any clouds which is the only thing that I expect to cause haziness. Faint fluoro is not a problem. The crystal seems to be well disguised because I didn’t see it in the video!
 

lovedogs

Super_Ideal_Rock
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Found another diamond in SI1 F/G. I would like to get your opinion on this one:

Video:

AGS Report:


I could only get one video, vendor does not have additional images or pictures. Does the diamond look clean? Does it look hazy? GIA Report shows: faint fluorescence. Does it affect the appearance of the diamond.

Please help.

Is this worth buying at $4k.

I am confused. The report linked is for an ACA stone. Is it from whiteflash?
 

musicloveranthony

Shiny_Rock
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Found another diamond in SI1 F/G. I would like to get your opinion on this one:

Video:

AGS Report:


I could only get one video, vendor does not have additional images or pictures. Does the diamond look clean? Does it look hazy? GIA Report shows: faint fluorescence. Does it affect the appearance of the diamond.

Please help.

Is this worth buying at $4k.

I don't think the certification matches the video. I'd be wary. It could be a resale of a preowned Whiteflash ACA stone, but that doesn't look like one to me
 

ccube

Rough_Rock
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Here is the GIA Certification Number: 13481166778
GIA Cert Shows under Inscriptions: GIA-13481166778, AGS-104074551020

So, you think video does not match the certificate?

I will check with the vendor.

How can I make sure diamond matches the cert and the video?

 

musicloveranthony

Shiny_Rock
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Here is the GIA Certification Number: 13481166778
GIA Cert Shows under Inscriptions: GIA-13481166778, AGS-104074551020

So, you think video does not match the certificate?

I will check with the vendor.

How can I make sure diamond matches the cert and the video?

I would ask them to take a magnified image of the girdle of the diamond with the inscription. Make sure the inscription matches the one listed on the certificate
 

ccube

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I would ask them to take a magnified image of the girdle of the diamond with the inscription. Make sure the inscription matches the one listed on the certificate

They are saying diamond cutter is unable to provide magnified image of the girdle. They suggest that I take the diamond to a jeweler to verify the inscription on the girdle.
 

Txborn79

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Here is the GIA Certification Number: 13481166778
GIA Cert Shows under Inscriptions: GIA-13481166778, AGS-104074551020

So, you think video does not match the certificate?

I will check with the vendor.

How can I make sure diamond matches the cert and the video?


Is this GIA number correct? I can’t pull it up on the GIA site
 

ccube

Rough_Rock
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Yeap. Those angles and numbers cannot produce that appearance in the video.

That is the only video they have from the diamond cutter.
So, video is better than what the angles on the report suggest?
 

musicloveranthony

Shiny_Rock
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That is the only video they have from the diamond cutter.
So, video is better than what the angles on the report suggest?

No, I think the video is of a lower cut quality than the report would indicate. I think there's something a little fishy about the situation. NOt sure if it's intentional or if it's just a confusion. But I would not send any money until it was all cleared up.

Sorry you're going through this. I know how frustrating it can be. It's just a lot of money and I want you to get what you payed for
 

ccube

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No, I think the video is of a lower cut quality than the report would indicate. I think there's something a little fishy about the situation. NOt sure if it's intentional or if it's just a confusion. But I would not send any money until it was all cleared up.

Sorry you're going through this. I know how frustrating it can be. It's just a lot of money and I want you to get what you payed for

I will ask them for another video.

This vendor offers free returns. So, in case the certification number on the girdle does not match I can return it, right?

Do you think there will be other issues that I am not aware of?
 

musicloveranthony

Shiny_Rock
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I have a feeling that this diamond is located at a diamond exchange at that it will be shipped upon payment. My guess is that they don't have this diamond in stock and would be ordering it for you. That's fine and is common practice. I guess if you're comfortable doing so, go ahead and order if it feels right to you. I wouldn't do that without something in writing (or email) from them saying that they'll pay return shipping if there are any issues. If you do order it, I also absolutely advise that you inspect or have someone else inspect it to see if the inscription on the girdle matches the certification.

I don't think a diamond needs to be "perfect" to be beautiful, but i absolutely do think it needs to be what you payed for.
 

lovedogs

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The diamond just doesn't match the report given, period. The report is an AGS report for an ACA, which is why I was so confused. Did the vendor send the GIA report, and can you post it?
 
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