Would you say this is a SI grade?

[Leanne]

Hi. Found this picture of a diamond & they say it''s a SI1 or SI2. Do you agree?

 

[MissAva]

Two qustions, did you resize this picture? If not then the top of the stone looks a little off to me.
The inclusion in the upper to mid left of the stones seems large but it would help to know what magnifaction the stone was shot at. Do you think you could see it in daily wear?
Also the one on the bottom right and the little line near the prong on the left...
I dont know it seems like the fracture looking one might be viasble.

 

[Mara]

what mag is that? it looks pretty big (the picture) which is not considered regular viewing...so the inclusion may not be that large in reality.

since that is a white inclusion, it may be an SI2 depending on the lab who graded it.

 

[Leanne]

I don''t know the magnification as I just right clicked & saved pic & posted here. It''s not a very clear picture but it is really close up & shows the big white inclusion. I have an I1 that''s comparable, that''s why I''m wondering. It''s at the GIA getting looked at right now so we shall see what they say. The other report on it is an IGI so according to posts here, it will come back an I2-3!

 

[MissAva]

Even if it is an SI, what about the cut. It may be just me but it looks a little off to me.

 

[Leanne]

It states that it''s an ideal cut. Here are the other stats-

Round brilliant cut Diamond 1.99 CT.
- Color: I
- Clarity: SI-2
Price: $ 8,401.00

I''m wondering if the diamond turned in the setting with the prongs the way they are is what''s making it look off kilter?

 

[MissAva]

Union Diamond I/SI2 7280$ 2cts
Jewelry Zone I/SI2 2.00 7312
These two were easy to find but clicking on the Price Comparison search engine. I think perhaps you would be served well by checking out some PS vendors.

 

[valeria101]

Date: 7/7/2005 1:34:22 AM
Author: Leanne

I''m wondering if the diamond turned in the setting with the prongs the way they are is what''s making it look off kilter?

Who knows... I am not entirely sure what ''off kilter'' means in this case: each seller is free to call ''ideal'' anything they wish, so I do not know what to look for.

 

[MissAva]

Date: 7/7/2005 1:34:22 AM
Author: Leanne
It states that it''s an ideal cut. Here are the other stats-

Round brilliant cut Diamond 1.99 CT.
- Color: I
- Clarity: SI-2
Price: $ 8,401.00

I''m wondering if the diamond turned in the setting with the prongs the way they are is what''s making it look off kilter?

Did they give any numbers girdle, table, depth, crown, pavillion and the like? If you post those people will be able to help you more. The more info the better.

 

[Leanne]

No, no other info. I''m not in the market right now anyway. Just love to look! BTW, your doggie''s adorable. My son just got a little Boston Terrier puppy. He''s a terror all right!

 

[MissAva]

I love to look too...after all they all have something wonderful to them. Oh how old is your Boston? Is it a boy or a girl? Dont you just love when they do the head tilt thing? Soo cute! Come post a picture in the rocky talky thread My Sleep angel or you sweet puppy. UrsalaWrite has a very handsome Boston named Winston.

 

[Leanne]

Matatora-I posted a pic of my grand-dog on the No Dogs Allowed site. Page 21. Take a peek!

 

[glitterata]

Looks like an I1 to me, but I''m certainly no grader.

 

[MissAva]

Oh what a cutie!

They look so funny when they are babies....Dray or Mo...hmm. Dont feel bad about that one my parents just bought my 4 year old sister and dog and she named him Mr. Victor Zuel. I think she may have seen ghostbusters one too many times.

I will post pictures of him as soon as I get home. He is 8 weeks and I think 42 lbs (either that or 52).

 

[Leanne]

Date: 7/7/2005 6:19:13 PM
Author: glitterata
Looks like an I1 to me, but I''m certainly no grader.

Ditto glitterata!

 

[strmrdr]

That picture has been so photoshoped you cant get any usefull information from it.

When the image was resized it was messed up beyond any use.
The height and the width were changed different amounts.

 

[Rank Amateur]

Maybe the photochopper purposely put the culet off-center and made that inclusion HUGE!

Other than that it''s a great photo.

 

[RockDoc]

Well folks.....


Does anyone else see the blackish inclusion at 7 o''clock ish and what appears to be a large feather at the 4 oclock position with part of it under the prong?

I agree totally with storm that the photo is terrible. GIA and AGS INSIST the stone be loose to grade it. So it could be worse,

Additionally I do not believe this is an ideal cut diamond, The pavilion depth looks too deep. Also the table facets lines should bow in slightly, one side does but the other is straight. For sight estimation ( which is at best a guess) looks like this puppy has about a 59-60% table.

Additionally it is lit from above, and absolute no no for clarity grading. To grade a stone properly it needs to have dark field illumination.

Making a clarity call grading given these circumstances is not the wise thing to do.

It will be interesting to see the results from the GIA.

Rockdoc

 

[strmrdr]

As bad as the picture is i went ahead and circled the major inclusions I found.
There are what appears to be a couple more pinpoints or small feathers but it is too messed up to tell.
I wasnt bored enough to try to currect the size distortion.

The 3 feathers will be the grademakers.
If Id really have to guess id say GIA I1

 

[Leanne]

Wow Strmrdr, I didn''t see those other 2 iclusions. But I did notice that the big one is the size of a whole facet so I assumed it would show with the naked eye. I got the pic from a ebay diamond seller. Their feedback is so so as far as what they say the cut, clarity, color is & I just wanted to know what ya''ll thought.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 7/9/2005 10:38:40 AM
Author: Leanne
Wow Strmrdr, I didn''t see those other 2 iclusions. But I did notice that the big one is the size of a whole facet so I assumed it would show with the naked eye. I got the pic from a ebay diamond seller. Their feedback is so so as far as what they say the cut, clarity, color is & I just wanted to know what ya''ll thought.

Which lab is the cert by or is it uncerted?
If its uncerted and over .25ct run.

 

[Leanne]

They say you can get a certificate from the National Gemological Laboratories, Inc. for $45. Their ad also reads-

All items are examined by GIA trained experts. Opinions of appraisers may vary up to 25%. Diamond grading is subjective and may vary greatly.

Sorry, I don''t follow the second part of your answer so I don''t know what to say there

.

 

[Leanne]

Date: 7/9/2005 10:45:38 AM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 7/9/2005 10:38:40 AM
Author: Leanne
Wow Strmrdr, I didn''t see those other 2 iclusions. But I did notice that the big one is the size of a whole facet so I assumed it would show with the naked eye. I got the pic from a ebay diamond seller. Their feedback is so so as far as what they say the cut, clarity, color is & I just wanted to know what ya''ll thought.

Which lab is the cert by or is it uncerted?
If its uncerted and over .25ct run.

Oh, duh. I just got it. If it''s uncertified, and it''s over a 1/4 carat diamond, don''t walk,,,,,,RUN.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 7/9/2005 2:00:36 PM
Author: Leanne

Date: 7/9/2005 10:45:38 AM

Author: strmrdr

Date: 7/9/2005 10:38:40 AM

Author: Leanne

Wow Strmrdr, I didn't see those other 2 iclusions. But I did notice that the big one is the size of a whole facet so I assumed it would show with the naked eye. I got the pic from a ebay diamond seller. Their feedback is so so as far as what they say the cut, clarity, color is & I just wanted to know what ya'll thought.

Which lab is the cert by or is it uncerted?

If its uncerted and over .25ct run.

Oh, duh. I just got it. If it's uncertified, and it's over a 1/4 carat diamond, don't walk,,,,,,RUN.

A gia repoort would run $200 bucks or so.
A egl-usa cert less so why doesnt it have one?
If it is that grade it would be worth more with it so why doesnt it have one?

National Gemological Laboratories, Inc. cert hmmm why is it that the only place you see there paper is on ebay diamond dealers pages on crappy diamonds.


So yes run!

For an honest vendor the cert offers them as well as the consumer some protection from problems down the road.