LOL @Demon, I have to look this up, who comes up with this stuff?!
We have a few houses in our town that put their political views on multiple large signs across their lawns. The people who put up "Don't Hate Make America Great" got their signs ripped up and scattered across the lawn. Everyone around here has an opinion for sure.
HI:
When it has gone through "proper" clinical trials and the evidence documented/peer reviewed.
cheers--Sharon
Missy, I'm with you on this one.I will evaluate the risk vs benefit at the time the vaccine is offered. I cannot say with certainty what I will do in the future because there are many variables to consider. Most likely once it is out and I feel proven safe I will get it. But I won't be rushing to get it immediately. I still remember what happened with the H1N1 "fast tracked" vaccine. Thankful I never got that vaccine.
It concerns me that there is a possibility of a two-tier society being created - those who've had a vaccine and are 'safe', and those who have not / cannot / will not have it, who are viewed by 'society' as apparently too dangerous to allow inside their building (for food, leisure services, music, whatever).
We should be assumed to be innocent until proven guilty, as we have fought hard for through the centuries, but a 'health passport' reverses that position by creating the situation where if you can't prove your 'innocence', you are presumed 'guilty'.
@AllAboardTheBlingTrain, with all respect, a few months is not nearly enough to prove safety of a vaccine. This is a new, fast tracked vaccine and there is no guarantee it will work (like the flu shot with its dismal performance) or that it will be safe and we will not know that for years.
I reference a friend of mine who is a nurse, she has narcolepsy, she got the H1N1 shot during the swine flu pandemic of 2009. Her doctor told her that it was the shot that caused the narcolepsy, now she has a debilitating condition she has to live with for the rest of her life. There is no monetary compensation for that either which I find criminal.
We need to acknowledge that vaccines are not one size fits all for everyone and until there is accountability (by repeal of the NCVIA of 1986) then they are not safe for all.
@AllAboardTheBlingTrain, with all respect, a few months is not nearly enough to prove safety of a vaccine. This is a new, fast tracked vaccine and there is no guarantee it will work (like the flu shot with its dismal performance) or that it will be safe and we will not know that for years.
I reference a friend of mine who is a nurse, she has narcolepsy, she got the H1N1 shot during the swine flu pandemic of 2009. Her doctor told her that it was the shot that caused the narcolepsy, now she has a debilitating condition she has to live with for the rest of her life. There is no monetary compensation for that either which I find criminal.
We need to acknowledge that vaccines are not one size fits all for everyone and until there is accountability (by repeal of the NCVIA of 1986) then they are not safe for all.
My daughter has narcolepsy, too. She developed it suddenly right after a bad case of pneumonia.
The thing with the H1N1 connection to narcolepsy is only the Pandemrix vaccine, which was only given in a few European countries, has actually been shown to have triggered narcolepsy. The vaccine responsible was never given in North America. In fact, contracting H1N1 also seemed to have some increased risk for triggering Narcolepsy.
The reason this is important is that anti-vaxxers sometimes use the H1N1 vaccine and Narcolepsy to "prove" that vaccines are unsafe when the research has shown it was one version of the vaccine. Furthermore, illnesses themselves can trigger autoimmune illnesses. Who knows what Covid 19 may trigger.
If I could have vaccinated my daughter against the pneumonia which triggered her Narcolepsy I absolutely would have.
Thank you, I will not have any vaccines at all, no flu (for the next season) and no covid shots.
I agree and feel the same. I didn't used to have a problem with vaccines until I got my first flu shot when I was 23. A week later I came down with severe flu/pneumonia. First and last time I've ever had the flu. I'll never get that shot again. However, I get tetanus regularly and just had the non-mercurized Shingrix series last year. I will wait a while for the Covid shot...I personally do not get any shots but that is my own decision, obviously if someone decides to get them then that is what they feel is best for them. It would just be great if vaccination was approached with more consideration for individual risk and they are not currently.