Will I color diamond face up white if......

[rosy]

it scores 3.7 on the HCA & IB on the AGA charts? Is this cut considered ideal enough for it to help mask the color? Thanks!

 

[researcher]

Every stone is different. Cut helps, but I strongly suggest seeing the stone in person. I was originally told that getting an I colored fancy stone was not a good idea, and that you don''t want to go lower than G if your stone is more than 2.5 cts. My stone is over 3 cts and a princess, yet it faces up EXTREMELY white. My friend also has an I colored stone with an excellent cut, and although her stone is smaller it has a definite yellow/warm tint to it.

 

[valeria101]

Can we see those numbers that went into the HCA ?

Anyway, numbers are not incredibly precise, and HCA is supposed to weed out sets of numbers that score above 2 from the rest. This one is one of the rest. If it is a brilliant cut, than I would likely venture to say that cut masks color. If the downgrading on the HCA is due to extra depth, than... I wouldn''t know how to read the result.

For what that''s worth, I looks darnh white to me even uncut

and you can always take a look at that diamond or any other larger I color round for refference.

 

[rosy]

Here are the specs:

The 1.56 I VS2:
depth: 61.9%
table: 56%
Crown Angle: 35.1 degrees
pavillion angle: 41.2 degrees
Polish: Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Culet: None
Girdle: thin-slightly thick, faceted
Flourescence: none

 

[Mara]

facing up white really depends on one's eyes. i have an H colored stone and I colored earrings and when i stare really hard into the earrings, sure i can see some color. they are small too, about .38c each. but on the ears all you see is white and colored sparkles. i think i would consider an I colored larger stone but I'd really prefer it have some sort of fluor like med blue to help mask any color. but then again, my H stone looks really white to me....so i can't necessarily say why I'd see some color in I. unless that's 'my' threshhold. again, its hard to know, you would probably have to see the stone in person...though i would venture to say the better the cut, the more it would mask color with it's intense sparkles. oh and if it was something like a BIC then it may face up whiter due to the larger amount of brilliance vs fire.

 

[RockyTop]

I''m considering a J colored square cushion. I plan to set it on a white gold solitaire setting. Will a J colored stone seem yellow against the white color? It has medium blue fluor. Will that help much?

 

[valeria101]

Date: 12/10/2004 3:19:53 AM
Author: RockyTop
I''m considering a J colored square cushion. I plan to set it on a white gold solitaire setting. Will a J colored stone seem yellow against the white color? It has medium blue fluor. Will that help much?

Second what Mara says... Can you take a look? Inclusions are different every time, but color can be judged pretty well looking at diamonds of comparable size with what you hvae in mind. Color shows more from the sides and in diffuse lighting (cloudy day, or away from the lights next to the jeweler''s counter

), so if a GIA graded J color looks fine to you in the next jewelery shop, better brilliance or fluorescenece can only make things better.

 

[RockyTop]

My problem is that the J stone I''m interested in is on-line and I''m not exactly in a diamond capital. The few stores around me have mostly poorly cut stones. The few J''s that I''ve seen are noticably yellow to me.

How much will the cut and fluorence compensate for the color? e.g. Does a well-cut J look like a H or just better than other Js? Same for fluor.

 

[rosy]

From what I know about fancy cuts such as cushions, they show more than round brilliant cuts. J is getting pretty close to the faint yellows. Maybe you could order the diamond & inspect it within the return period & decide for yourself when you see it at home. In fact to me that''s one good thing about ordering online you get to see the diamond in real lighting not those irritating jewelry store lights.

 

[solange]

I have an I color Ideal cut 4.10 carat round stone that I bought from Whiteflash. It looks very white and sparkling under most circumstances.

I do notice a little color when I am at home where the walls are beige and I am looking at it in certain lamp lighting. But I have heard people say this of higher color stones too.

Diamonds, with rare exception, are not a good investment. They are just somethng to enjoy and express sentiment. I just wanted the largest, most beautiful ring I could find at a decent price because I do not want to pay a fortune for insurance and have it sit in the vault.

My stone is not Hearts and Arrows but the proportions are excellent. Before I made a commitment to have it sent to an appraiser where I could see it, I spoke with Brian, the cutter, at Whiteflash and told him I would pay more if he thought I should wait. He said it was an exceptional stone at a great price and that it "spoke to him." He said he felt I should at least have a look at it because he highly recommended it. It has an all excellent HCA score, .8 according to the Sarin.

I think with an I or J color stone, you have to speak with a dealer you trust and let him or her guide you as to whether this stone is cut well enough to "help mask the color." Good luck.