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Why are PS vendor photographs so terrible?

teobdl

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Why are PS vendor jewelry photographs so terrible?

Almost every vendor is bad, but Brian Gavin and WhiteFlash are particularly egregious with contrast so blown out that almost all contour is lost. You can't get a good feel for the piece. Sometimes I can't even tell if something was completely computer generated or if it's an overly manipulated photo. I'd say 30% of all amateur PS photos are more helpful than what vendors supply. And they pay someone to do that.

Seeing Erika Winter's marvelously photographed pieces got me thinking about just how bad PS vendor photography tends to be. Admittedly, she is extremely skilled and her photos are upper echelon good, but this is no excuse for PS vendors to be so bad. Customers don't want 10 bad photos. We want 3 very good, representative photos.

My plea:
1. Eliminate CAD's on consumer facing sites. They should only be used for design purposes.

2. Reduce your reliance on and use of photo manipulation software. I'd even prefer an untouched photo to an overly manipulated one. For instance: 1) white balance the camera 2) set desired aperture 3) shoot a couple angles 4) crop if necessary. Done. For me, this is much preferred to a poorly-done glam shot.

3. Shoot in lighting that mimics natural light (better yet, use natural light). Capture the details. Have at least one representative hi-res photo for each setting. Seeing a photograph should be almost as good as seeing the setting in person.

I know this isn't trivial, but particularly for online vendors, I think it's critical for capturing customers who would otherwise much prefer to shop in brick and mortar stores. I have multiple friends who passed on shopping online because of this issue. Even mediocre wedding photographers can do a decent job, and I think vendors would do well to hire one on a very limited, part-time basis.
 
Brian Gavin's ring pics make me so batty I refuse to even browse on that site anymore. It's like you get every unique angle of the setting upside down, sideways, backwards, etc. but you don't get the one you need to see that would actually be helpful, lol.

I really like James Allen's spinning videos of the diamonds and settings. Those are cool!
 
Laila619|1392664926|3617111 said:
Brian Gavin's ring pics make me so batty I refuse to even browse on that site anymore. It's like you get every unique angle of the setting upside down, sideways, backwards, etc. but you don't get the one you need to see that would actually be helpful, lol.

I really like James Allen's spinning videos of the diamonds and settings. Those are cool!

Yep...I so agree with this! I hate looking at pictures of their settings. All weird angles. Wonder who's idea that was?
 
Laila619|1392664926|3617111 said:
Brian Gavin's ring pics make me so batty I refuse to even browse on that site anymore. It's like you get every unique angle of the setting upside down, sideways, backwards, etc. but you don't get the one you need to see that would actually be helpful, lol.

I really like James Allen's spinning videos of the diamonds and settings. Those are cool!

Same here. When I was shopping for a setting, I was confused by what BGD's photographer was thinking. Trying to be artistic and 'different than the competition' is great and all, but I had no idea what the settings actually would look like IRL.

The same (to a lesser extent) with WF. I bought a Legato Sleek Line pave, and none of their photos properly show the taper towards the center. If it wasn't for pictures from PSers, I would have passed on the setting
 
Laila619|1392664926|3617111 said:
Brian Gavin's ring pics make me so batty I refuse to even browse on that site anymore. It's like you get every unique angle of the setting upside down, sideways, backwards, etc. but you don't get the one you need to see that would actually be helpful, lol.

I really like James Allen's spinning videos of the diamonds and settings. Those are cool!

+1 LOL

I have always wondered about BGD's photos... it's not like a client is gonna be like, "Well, I was gonna buy a setting from another vendor, until I saw it upside down on Brian Gavin's site -- that was what sold me!" :rolleyes: :lol: :lol:

I like James Allen's the best! :appl:
 
I have to agree, BG's photography would be fine if you had a head-on shot of the ring and then an upright profile view..the two things people really want to see! Those pics are very puzzling!!!

I love some of ERD's settings, but I hate the CAD images and wouldn't buy without seeing an actual ring. They really need to replace their pictures.

I think WF gives pretty good views of their items. I've never felt that theirs were inadequate. Most of theirs have a hand shot (or ear, etc), which is nice.

I adore Erika's photography. It is very pretty. BUT (I love you and your rings, Erika) I have to say that I am not seeing that head-on view of the ring like I'd see it on my finger, as in the top view of the setting. I also am not seeing a full upright profile view. Hers are mostly at angles, too.

http://www.erikawinters.com/Engagement-Rings-Thea_Halo.html#.UwKQM_ldWSp

Please people, just give us the top view of the ring and give us a full profile view, and then you can add whatever pretty pictures you want!
 
Laila I laughed out loud - I've also always thought that BGD's angles are bizarre! Seriously, just show the darn thing face-up, in-profile, and side-on, and then add whatever unique configurations you like!


http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/ashleys-halo-platinum-5835p


And teobdl I also dislike the contrast blowout in WF's pics, especially with busier designs as it can make it very hard to see the details, but they definitely do a much better job of showing what the piece actually looks like usefully!


http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/three-stone/verragio-beaded-shared-prong-3-stone-engagement-ring-2003.htm


Erika's pieces look phenomenal in terms of design and workmanship but I really hope she re-evaluates the intensely shallow DOF because you lose perspective on how those micro features fit into the overall context of the piece. Like what, exactly, are the curvy things in the gallery in the first pic? I have the same complaint about DanielM on Etsy.


http://www.erikawinters.com/Engagement-Rings-Ava_Halo.html


Another one who thinks JA wins in the settings photography department!

ETA: Okay, the Verragio... who in the world thought that making the bottom of the shank pointy was a good idea!? :confused:

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Okay, this is what I mean by an profile shot, and it came from Pearlman's. I think the white background really makes the photo clear. Obviously it would be better if the picture showed the whole ring, but this was just a quick pic from them and not something for a website!

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Yssie, I think the pics you just posted from WF are great if they'd just substitute a head-on shot for one of those. I'd prefer white over black backgrounds, though.

I don't like James Allen's 360 videos of the settings on fake hands at all and the settings look like CADS or something!
 
I prefer white backgrounds (these are beautiful from GOG, but not best for website), but these are the other two positions I'd like to see:

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Also, when the vendor wants to post a single photo per item, this works well:

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diamondseeker2006|1392680305|3617320 said:
I prefer white backgrounds (these are beautiful from GOG, but not best for website), but these are the other two positions I'd like to see:

Okay, wait a minute Diamondseeker that's no fair!!!!!! That's a ridiculously beautiful setting/stone combo, so there's no way a "bad" photo could be taken LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: ! I'm kidding, the ring's gorgeous (of course, I've told you that before ;)) ), but I agree w/ your points about vendor photos.

I've always found it really helpful to see handshots that are taken at arm's length or further to give a "real life" perspective. It always amazes me how some details that look enormous in the close-up pics can really turn out to be delicate when veiwed on the hand 1-2 feet away (or regular viewing distance).
 
I really dislike BGD's highkey photos (white background) as they are not consistent and the contrast is generally way off. Highkey should always be white, not pale white, not pink'ish and certainly not yellow'ish/brown'ish.

LOL look at us PS'ers, we're all photography pros. :lol:
 
Roxy|1392687424|3617466 said:
diamondseeker2006|1392680305|3617320 said:
I prefer white backgrounds (these are beautiful from GOG, but not best for website), but these are the other two positions I'd like to see:

Okay, wait a minute Diamondseeker that's no fair!!!!!! That's a ridiculously beautiful setting/stone combo, so there's no way a "bad" photo could be taken LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: ! I'm kidding, the ring's gorgeous (of course, I've told you that before ;)) ), but I agree w/ your points about vendor photos.

I've always found it really helpful to see handshots that are taken at arm's length or further to give a "real life" perspective. It always amazes me how some details that look enormous in the close-up pics can really turn out to be delicate when veiwed on the hand 1-2 feet away (or regular viewing distance).

Thank you! :wavey:

I agree on handshots, too!
 
BGD has it's website designed for people into yoga :lol: :lol:
 
We take multiple photos of a ring for appraisal purposes. We want those pictures to
represent the style, workmanship, design features as well as capturing important details
such as micro pave' and milgrain. We think it really helps in the case of loss or damage.

I think many of the vendors are also trying to capture intricate design details.
 
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