Mae auditore
Rough_Rock
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Dear Ladies and Gentlemen of the Forum,
I am new to colored gemstones or diamonds as Jewelry. I collect different type of gems for their energy, but just rough, untreated, small pieces of gems and tumble stones.
A month ago my boyfriend suddenly told me, the Diamond Ring Family Heirloom he thought he would get from his mom for his wife is not available because his mother has one request before handing it down to him...and that is to meet the lady in person.
Our relationship is...unusual. I am Indonesian, born in the capital city of Jakarta (please excuse my not perfect English). He is an American guy from New Jersey. We are of the same age. We met through 'The Houseplant Hobbyist' group in Facebook because of our love for plants.
Due to Covid, i was unable to travel to the US. But he can travel to Jakarta to see me. He has made it here couple of times over these two years period.
But oh what was i on about, this is a gemstone forum. The stress must have got to me.
Long story short, because the initial Diamond ring is now unavailable, we now must find an engagement ring in less than a month. My boyfriend is now here in Jakarta with me. He is going to ask my dad for my hand tomorrow.
I know, i know, you are probably thinking, "Why he needs your dad's permission when you're both 40++ years old?!"
It's just for cultural formality, really. My dad is very modern for an Indonesian. Whom i marry is really up to me. But just out of respect, as a man the bf needs to "ask" my dad and the bf also needs to present me with a ring to confirm the proposal. He can't just tell my father, "I am going to marry ur daughter~ i swear to God! But uh...the ring is still with my mom back in the states so...yeaaa.... Can we get engaged WITHOUT a ring, Sir? I'll take ur daughter back home to see ma and then we'll see."
Anyways i also don't want to get engaged with any man without a ring. No no no, Get me a ring otherwise no thank you. Safe trip home, i love you too.
So anyways (excuse my stress blabs.) I am now in this exciting dilemma of finding an engagement ring i haven't a clue about Jewelry in less than a month. Which got me here in this forum, with an abundance of hope someone will share with me their expertise.
I have tried my best, in such limited time, to research about Sapphires, Ruby and Diamonds on Google and Youtube. And also with the help of members in this forum, i'm now equipped with some information about jewelry, especially Sapphire Rings.
Why Sapphires, you may ask. I choose Sapphires because i love the color Blue. I also like the energy Sapphires give me. It's cooling like endless fresh spring water and sweet. Although of course not all Sapphires is created the same nor have the same energy.
I'm also open to the idea of Ruby because that's my birthstone. Although honestly i don't believe in birthstones...that specific stones should only be worn by specific people born on specific months.
I'm still far away from being able to tell which Sapphire Ring is better than the others. Also from these several days going around Jewelry stores in Jakarta, i found out that some stores can be outright shameless trying to sell me and my bf fake synthetic glass made in China/ Hong Kong yet asking for the price of real Sapphires/ Diamonds/ White gold.
They probably think since my bf is a foreigner and we communicate in English then i must be a foreigner too, and it would be hard for us to return to the store and make a complaint for the fakes, because then we would need to fly in and prove that at the time we bought it, it wasn't a fake. It's gross and upsetting.
[A warning to anyone who wants to buy Jewelry in Jakarta: some stores even at expensive malls will tell you that the "Natural Sapphires" comes from Hong Kong/ China, and has no certificate AT ALL but a store certificate. I'm quite sure there isn't any Sapphire mines in China. The ring is also very light like a toy, yet they smile and tell you it's real Sapphires with real Diamonds and real gold. So shameless trying to sell it for $1500 when the real value of that fake ring is probably just $15.]
These below are 4 Sapphire Diamond rings with similar model, price (around $3400), cut, GIA certificate, 18k White Gold, Diamonds are F VVS1 and 2 combined (carats unknown), that i found from two respectable stores. The stores are local brands (Frank&Co and Mondial) but these two chains are the best i can find in town. There are of course smaller stores/ non chain that sells real Sapphires Diamond Ring with cheaper price but they are unable to provide me with a GIA certificate, only certification from a local Indonesian lab called GRI, or even "Store certificate".
In your personal opinion, which ring would you choose and why? I have uploaded videos on Youtube for more detailed viewing, but i admit i didn't video some of them right.
Before i want to thank you very much for your time, opinion and expertise. Your comment will really help me decide which engagement ring i want to get.
My main concern is getting a Sapphire Ring that's worth the value, and that i don't get scammed. I like all these four rings and very soon i have to decide which one. Please help me, thank you.
RING 1
Ring 1 has very nice color like members of this nice forum mentioned to me in another thread and has a big window.
Internal notes also stated that the Sapphire has "fingerprint" inclusions and cracks.
RING 2
Ring 2 doesn't seem to have any windows in the Sapphire. But unlike the other models where there is a gap between the ring and the center piece, it is closed, making the ring looks smaller. The cut is also wider than the others.
RING 3
Ring 3 has a deeper color but vivid, smaller carat, very little inclusions. When i put this one side by side with Ring 4 i can see the stone seems more alive while Ring 4 is more muted. It also has windows when tilted.
RING 4
Ring 4 has a very nice energy, like fresh water, sweet and strong. But visually it may not be the best. It has less inclusions than Ring 1. But muted compared to Ring 4.
Out of all these Rings, Ring 1, 3 and 4 comes from the same company Frank&Co, has similar model with a gap between the diamonds surrounding it and the center piece, making the ring look bigger.
Ring 2 comes from Mondial and doesn't have a gap, with wider cut than the others and almost no visible windows.
I am aware in the end it really is up to me which ring i want, but i really would appreciate your expertise in the matter as to why you would choose a particular ring from these 4s. Your opinion matters. I haven't got clue about which Sapphires is of good quality, or which of these are better than the others.
Again, thank you for your time helping and educating me.
Best Regards,
Mae
I am new to colored gemstones or diamonds as Jewelry. I collect different type of gems for their energy, but just rough, untreated, small pieces of gems and tumble stones.
A month ago my boyfriend suddenly told me, the Diamond Ring Family Heirloom he thought he would get from his mom for his wife is not available because his mother has one request before handing it down to him...and that is to meet the lady in person.
Our relationship is...unusual. I am Indonesian, born in the capital city of Jakarta (please excuse my not perfect English). He is an American guy from New Jersey. We are of the same age. We met through 'The Houseplant Hobbyist' group in Facebook because of our love for plants.
Due to Covid, i was unable to travel to the US. But he can travel to Jakarta to see me. He has made it here couple of times over these two years period.
But oh what was i on about, this is a gemstone forum. The stress must have got to me.
Long story short, because the initial Diamond ring is now unavailable, we now must find an engagement ring in less than a month. My boyfriend is now here in Jakarta with me. He is going to ask my dad for my hand tomorrow.
I know, i know, you are probably thinking, "Why he needs your dad's permission when you're both 40++ years old?!"
It's just for cultural formality, really. My dad is very modern for an Indonesian. Whom i marry is really up to me. But just out of respect, as a man the bf needs to "ask" my dad and the bf also needs to present me with a ring to confirm the proposal. He can't just tell my father, "I am going to marry ur daughter~ i swear to God! But uh...the ring is still with my mom back in the states so...yeaaa.... Can we get engaged WITHOUT a ring, Sir? I'll take ur daughter back home to see ma and then we'll see."
Anyways i also don't want to get engaged with any man without a ring. No no no, Get me a ring otherwise no thank you. Safe trip home, i love you too.
So anyways (excuse my stress blabs.) I am now in this exciting dilemma of finding an engagement ring i haven't a clue about Jewelry in less than a month. Which got me here in this forum, with an abundance of hope someone will share with me their expertise.
I have tried my best, in such limited time, to research about Sapphires, Ruby and Diamonds on Google and Youtube. And also with the help of members in this forum, i'm now equipped with some information about jewelry, especially Sapphire Rings.
Why Sapphires, you may ask. I choose Sapphires because i love the color Blue. I also like the energy Sapphires give me. It's cooling like endless fresh spring water and sweet. Although of course not all Sapphires is created the same nor have the same energy.
I'm also open to the idea of Ruby because that's my birthstone. Although honestly i don't believe in birthstones...that specific stones should only be worn by specific people born on specific months.
I'm still far away from being able to tell which Sapphire Ring is better than the others. Also from these several days going around Jewelry stores in Jakarta, i found out that some stores can be outright shameless trying to sell me and my bf fake synthetic glass made in China/ Hong Kong yet asking for the price of real Sapphires/ Diamonds/ White gold.
They probably think since my bf is a foreigner and we communicate in English then i must be a foreigner too, and it would be hard for us to return to the store and make a complaint for the fakes, because then we would need to fly in and prove that at the time we bought it, it wasn't a fake. It's gross and upsetting.
[A warning to anyone who wants to buy Jewelry in Jakarta: some stores even at expensive malls will tell you that the "Natural Sapphires" comes from Hong Kong/ China, and has no certificate AT ALL but a store certificate. I'm quite sure there isn't any Sapphire mines in China. The ring is also very light like a toy, yet they smile and tell you it's real Sapphires with real Diamonds and real gold. So shameless trying to sell it for $1500 when the real value of that fake ring is probably just $15.]
These below are 4 Sapphire Diamond rings with similar model, price (around $3400), cut, GIA certificate, 18k White Gold, Diamonds are F VVS1 and 2 combined (carats unknown), that i found from two respectable stores. The stores are local brands (Frank&Co and Mondial) but these two chains are the best i can find in town. There are of course smaller stores/ non chain that sells real Sapphires Diamond Ring with cheaper price but they are unable to provide me with a GIA certificate, only certification from a local Indonesian lab called GRI, or even "Store certificate".
In your personal opinion, which ring would you choose and why? I have uploaded videos on Youtube for more detailed viewing, but i admit i didn't video some of them right.
Before i want to thank you very much for your time, opinion and expertise. Your comment will really help me decide which engagement ring i want to get.
My main concern is getting a Sapphire Ring that's worth the value, and that i don't get scammed. I like all these four rings and very soon i have to decide which one. Please help me, thank you.
RING 1
Ring 1 has very nice color like members of this nice forum mentioned to me in another thread and has a big window.
Internal notes also stated that the Sapphire has "fingerprint" inclusions and cracks.
RING 2
Ring 2 doesn't seem to have any windows in the Sapphire. But unlike the other models where there is a gap between the ring and the center piece, it is closed, making the ring looks smaller. The cut is also wider than the others.
RING 3
Ring 3 has a deeper color but vivid, smaller carat, very little inclusions. When i put this one side by side with Ring 4 i can see the stone seems more alive while Ring 4 is more muted. It also has windows when tilted.
RING 4
Ring 4 has a very nice energy, like fresh water, sweet and strong. But visually it may not be the best. It has less inclusions than Ring 1. But muted compared to Ring 4.
Out of all these Rings, Ring 1, 3 and 4 comes from the same company Frank&Co, has similar model with a gap between the diamonds surrounding it and the center piece, making the ring look bigger.
Ring 2 comes from Mondial and doesn't have a gap, with wider cut than the others and almost no visible windows.
I am aware in the end it really is up to me which ring i want, but i really would appreciate your expertise in the matter as to why you would choose a particular ring from these 4s. Your opinion matters. I haven't got clue about which Sapphires is of good quality, or which of these are better than the others.
Again, thank you for your time helping and educating me.
Best Regards,
Mae
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