Which one would you pick? going to buy it today.

[mrgodai]

sorry for branching out of my other thread, but it's too long and i dont know if i can get the wonderful opinions i need from the pricescope community in time.

I finally decided on WF, for their amazing trade up policy. But for one thing or another, i cant get the stones i originally picked.

I was then offered these 2:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2347511.htm HCA 1.5 EX/EX/EX/VG

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2430963.htm HCA 1.4 EX/EX/VG/VG

and for $300 more i can get

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2377990.htm HCA 1.4 EX/EX/EX/VG

which one would you pick based on the AGS report and all the images and their ACA/Expert grading?

I doubt I can notice the size or color difference between them. so i'm going with the cheaper ones, unless you guys think otherwise?

 

[stone-cold11]

Ya, I would go with the ES stone too.

 

[mrgodai]

Ya, I would go with the ES stone too.

SC, they offer me the same price on both 0.81

At this point i care more about the performance/brilliance/scintillation/fire

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2430963.htm is an ACA and seems like less grey in Idealscope, would that mean less light leakage? ASET is less green area too, but there is a patch of green off to the side in ASET. the ASET in AGS show more areas that are green though.

I'm worry about that white spot on one of the arrow in the zoom pic, they say probably the dust and is going to re-send a new pic since there are no inclusions showing on the AGS report at that spot.

 

[stone-cold11]

The ES stone in the IS image is tilted. There should not be leakage, also leakage in an IS is white not black.

 

[mrgodai]

they updated the 40x image on http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2430963.htm and the dot is still there, what caused the dot?

however the side by side looked clean


also now i just notice the inclusion right in the center on F SI1. I'm pretty sure it's eye clean, I just hope wife wont grab a magnifying glass and check.

F SI1 it is certainly less yellow than the H VS1

still can't decide. lol

 

[malnik]

I like the F color diamond simply because it has a better color grade and will impress people more. It's always nice to tell people you bought an F color diamond. I have an H color diamond myself and I reserve not to tell people the grade. In a real-life, uncontrolled lighting environment, these two diamonds will probably look identical.
You should also ask WF to send you a hearts photo of the diamond. Maybe that'll help you make your decision.

 

[starryeyed]

That's a tough call mrgodai. I'm sure the VS1 is totally eye clean. They are all really nice stones.

I just saw the pictures - the H has a little warmth to it. The F has a little black in the center, at about 3pm. I would ask if this is visible in real life.

Into what metal will you set the stone? If you are going with Yellow Gold, maybe the H is your best bet.

Personally, I spring for the extra $300 and get the 0.84 E SI-1 ACA, and set it in White Gold or Platinum, but I'm not the one spending the money.

 

[mrgodai]

platinum

I guess F would be better

 

[AnneinGA]

I would go for the VS stone. Once you don't have two of them side by side you probably won't see the color difference, but from personal experience, once I know where an inclusion is, I see it every time I see the stone.

 

[starryeyed]

platinum

I guess F would be better

What did WF say about that little spot in the center at 3pm? If it can't be seen in real life, the F is a good value.

 

[mrgodai]

platinum

I guess F would be better

What did WF say about that little spot in the center at 3pm? If it can't be seen in real life, the F is a good value.

It is eye clean, even up close, but obvious under 10x loupe

anne is right, i can't help but keep looking at that spot, and even if it's eye clean, i would try really hard to see it

the $300 more expensive E SI1 has a pretty large white crystal at 2 oclock, and it's bothering me to no end as well

 

[starryeyed]

It is eye clean, even up close, but obvious under 10x loupe

anne is right, i can't help but keep looking at that spot, and even if it's eye clean, i would try really hard to see it

the $300 more expensive E SI1 has a pretty large white crystal at 2 oclock, and it's bothering me to no end as well

mrgodai, what makes you think these inclusions would bother you? If you can't see them, who cares? There is some serious magnification going on in these pictures, so those spots are really miniscule. The diamonds you are looking at are a very nice size, but they are not huge, like these pictures.

Now, if you fall into the "mind-clean" camp, then it's another story. Then you have to get the H, which is a magnificent stone too.

Unfortunately when you buy from the internet, you see the ultra-magnified picture before you see the diamond. When you buy in a store, it's exactly the opposite. If you saw any of these stones in a store, you'd probably go for the biggest and/or brightest. You'd fall in love first and then see the inclusions under the loupe later.

 

[yssie]

It is eye clean, even up close, but obvious under 10x loupe

anne is right, i can't help but keep looking at that spot, and even if it's eye clean, i would try really hard to see it

the $300 more expensive E SI1 has a pretty large white crystal at 2 oclock, and it's bothering me to no end as well

While I agree w/ starry in principle, I think in this statement you've answered your own question on what to do about clarity.

 

[Lula]

I'd go with the H VS1. It's a great color and clarity combination, a nice size, and a nice price, and it comes with full upgrade "privileges"!

Your wife's current diamond is an H, so the color should be just fine, and it's nice to have the knowledge that the stone will be eye clean and any inclusions will be difficult for her to locate even under a loupe!

 

[mrgodai]

I was just reading up on a bunch of stuff on GoG, stars, LGF.. etc and led me to this pic



I think i'm going witht he Upper left one, if I read it correctly, it would show more brilliance/fire

 

[yssie]

I was just reading up on a bunch of stuff on GoG, stars, LGF.. etc and led me to this pic



I think i'm going witht he Upper left one, if I read it correctly, it would show more brilliance/fire

?


"Type" of light return depends firstly on crown/pavilion combo, lower half length is a second factor. All stones will show both fire and white light return in the right lighting, certain 'makes' of stones are proportioned such that they are more likely to show fire or white light in a wider variety of lighting environments than the other 'makes'. The upper left stone will look different, but won't show *more* fire/brilliance - though GOG does assert that certain stones (long lgf, long & open stars) have more 'scintillation'

All in all the most important thing is what you like the look of in stones of the size range you're considering. Some people prefer a more splintery light return and long lgf, some people prefer bolder flash and short lgf - "open" stars are possible whether star facets are short or long. I highlight size range because a the effects of long lgf on a 3ct stone may mirror what you see in a 0.8ct w/ short lgf, purely b/c of facet size

ETA: this excellent video has more insight into virtual facet size and the effects on what you see
http://www.screencast.com/users/WinkJones/folders/Educational%20videos/media/6ba9312e-02e1-4e82-a22c-06ece73200f6

 

[mrgodai]

Thank you Ysse, Stone-cold, starryeyed, Portree and everyone else in the other thread, it has been a short 2 days of discussion, and you guys become #1 on this forum in my books, especially on helping and educating the newbies

This is the final Diamond i picked out,

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2428256.htm

it's not any of those i've mentioned before, looool. But that's just how things go sometimes.

It's a G, it's VS2, there is a tiny inclusion that's barely visible near the center and i'm perfectly fine about it. I'm happy with all the images/AGS report based on my limited understanding, plus i got a nice deal.

In the end I realize, for an average person like me, i think trying to understand too much info IS a bad thing.
because for all the hassle, stress, and worries about all the different images/numbers beyond the 4Cs and the Idealscope, it will probably make absolutely no difference to an average person. The less you try to rely on, the easier you can be content with a diamond.

And for all the newbies out there reading this, i would suggest you just post the diamonds you want with report/idealscope here and let one of these masters tell you if it's good or not, and just listen to them and try not to think too much

Again, thank you everyone. I'll post back once I get the diamond.

Now to deal with the freaking Bank of America and their crappy wiring service.. sigh.

 

[yssie]

Congrats!

The stone you chose looks like a real stunner please do come back with thoughts and pictures once you've got it !

 

[Lula]

You did a great job! It's a beautiful diamond and I think your wife will be thrilled with the size, color, and clarity -- plus, it's an ACA!!!

And, ditto, yssie -- come back with photos after you give it to her (we'd love to help her with ideas for how to set it!).

 

[starryeyed]

Thank you Ysse, Stone-cold, starryeyed, Portree and everyone else in the other thread, it has been a short 2 days of discussion, and you guys become #1 on this forum in my books, especially on helping and educating the newbies

This is the final Diamond i picked out,

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2428256.htm

it's not any of those i've mentioned before, looool. But that's just how things go sometimes.

It's a G, it's VS2, there is a tiny inclusion that's barely visible near the center and i'm perfectly fine about it. I'm happy with all the images/AGS report based on my limited understanding, plus i got a nice deal.

In the end I realize, for an average person like me, i think trying to understand too much info IS a bad thing.
because for all the hassle, stress, and worries about all the different images/numbers beyond the 4Cs and the Idealscope, it will probably make absolutely no difference to an average person. The less you try to rely on, the easier you can be content with a diamond.

And for all the newbies out there reading this, i would suggest you just post the diamonds you want with report/idealscope here and let one of these masters tell you if it's good or not, and just listen to them and try not to think too much

Again, thank you everyone. I'll post back once I get the diamond.

Now to deal with the freaking Bank of America and their crappy wiring service.. sigh.

Hooray mrgodai!!

Congratulations! That diamond is gorgeous!! I just traded in for a G VS2 ACA also. I think G is a great value, VS2's give you nothing to worry about, and an ACA is as good as it gets. Way to go!!

Can't wait to see pictures and hear your wife's reaction!

 

[stone-cold11]

Good luck.

 

[mrgodai]

Got the diamond and handed to wify..

So I got the Diamond yesterday.

Ok, the moment I set my eyes on it in my office, my heart really skipped a beat.

O.M.G it's beautiful!!!! It looks way better than I expected under diffused office light settings! The Ideal stones of Jared dont even look like that with their special light and everything.

Some of the office ladies compared their diamonds to mine, mine is just so much brighter and sparkler! They ask me the specs and couple said say their is better, but why look so different? I just told them maybe they should get theirs cleaned. lol

All thanks to you guys! seriously!

So anyways, i picked up my wife from airport, and got her home.
She knows i have a present for her and she kept on asking me about it on the way home.
I handed her the gift wrapped box, and she looked at it and say "what's this?" I can TELL she is disappointed for such a small box.
And when she saw the diamond, she was speechless... in a "HUH?" way.

Turns out, she was expecting a much larger box with a Macbook Pro in it, loool. (She had her stolen a few months back, and she always wanted another one)

I asked her why was she speechless when she saw the diamond, she is just like "I was shocked! I didnt know you would get something so expensive!"

I then told her I'll return the diamond get her a Macbook Pro, she is like "NO!!" loool

I'm still not 100% sure she loves it or not, but I think when i get it in a setting and she is able to wear it, she'll never take it off!

Trying to take pictures, but it's so hard without a micro lens, and i can't really spend $200 on a lens to take pics.. but i'll keep trying!

Again, thank you guys!

 

[stone-cold11]

 

[starryeyed]

Oh I'm so glad you like the diamond mrgodai!

Your wife is probably stunned and can't believe it's hers!

Let us know if we can help you with a setting. Pearlman's has a great selection.

 

[Dreamer_D]

I love the diamond you chose, I personally think G VS2 is a really sweet spot when you want totally eye clean and bright white in your diamond.

Get that puppy set now!