Which one would you choose ???

[Stephan]

I''m not planning to buy one of those diamond, I am just trying to post a poll...
Which one would you buy and why?
Diamond 1
Diamond 2

 

[heart prongs]

It's bigger and cheaper, my favorite combo!

 

[pqcollectibles]

I wouldn't choose either until I had complete information on #1 and got a chance to chat with Brian Gavin at White Flash.

 

[Robyn12]

I notice number 2 has a feather inclusion. I don't know much about diamonds, but in general, I think a lot of people try to avoid this. Maybe someone else can comment on this?

 

[Rhino]

Hey Stephan,




I appreciate the post but if you want to solicit the opinions of experts you should not get the names of the vendors involved. You should just post the stats of each stone or as much info as you can without revealing the source behind the stone and let people comment on the data. When we know who owns what there may be a bias one way or the other. Ie. the lovely PQ and myself are friends with Brian and know of his integrity which may persuade us towards a stone from him. I never like to know whose stone is whose becuase I start thinking of the person and the operation behind the product which goes into a purchasing decision mind you so in some cases... just knowing where the stone is coming from may persuade me one way or the other as there are some people I'd prefer to do business with and some people I would not when the stats look equally compensating.

 

[valeria101]

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On 1/31/2004 11:52:43 PM Rhino wrote:




I never like to know whose stone is whose becuase I start thinking of the person and the operation behind the product [...]...
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I might be at some advantage from this point of view: all I know is all I get from reading online and that's it.

This thread came as a very pleasant surprise: it is more club chat than choosing diamonds with a wearable goal in mind. I surely hope this side of Pricescope is here to stay in keeping the healthy flow of sparkling matter.

About the two contenders above... Until present I did manage to bundle up my personal preferences for what an "ideal" diamond is, and this personal definition would not allow me to choose in this case without giving in to measurement bias. So? no vote.

 

[pqcollectibles]

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On 1/31/2004 11:52:43 PM Rhino wrote:


Hey Stephan,


I appreciate the post but if you want to solicit the opinions of experts you should not get the names of the vendors involved. You should just post the stats of each stone or as much info as you can without revealing the source behind the stone and let people comment on the data. When we know who owns what there may be a bias one way or the other. Ie. the lovely PQ and myself are friends with Brian and know of his integrity which may persuade us towards a stone from him. I never like to know whose stone is whose becuase I start thinking of the person and the operation behind the product which goes into a purchasing decision mind you so in some cases... just knowing where the stone is coming from may persuade me one way or the other as there are some people I'd prefer to do business with and some people I would not when the stats look equally compensating.
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Just remember, Pup,..... You said it, I didn't!!

HeeeHeee!!

 

[diamondboy]

Neither, I would choose this one. These specs kill either of them.


1.113
F
VS1
0 (H&A)
1-EX
ex-ex-ex-vg
60.6
57
34.6°
40.7°
AGS
0.9-1.5
pt
id
id
no
$8213b‡

 

[Stephan]

My 2 Eurocents:
The first one seems to be cut with a better precision, with a smaller difference between the angles.
(You can see it on the Sarin/Megascope.)
The second one is outside the ideal range with it's slight shallow crown.
But the spread of the second one is better, the HCA score too... and the price of course !!!
So I choose the second one.

 

[Stephan]

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On 1/31/2004 11:25:49 PM pqcollectibles wrote:

I wouldn't choose either until I had complete information on #1 and got a chance to chat with Brian Gavin at White Flash.

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So PQ,
Can you tell me what information is missing on the first diamond?
I saw the Sarin and the AGS cert, and I think that this diamond is very very well cut.
What would you ask Brian?

 

[valeria101]

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On 2/1/2004 1:48:10 AM Stephan wrote:

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On 1/31/2004 11:25:49 PM pqcollectibles wrote:

I wouldn't choose either until I had complete information on #1 and got a chance to chat with Brian Gavin at White Flash.

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So PQ,
Can you tell me what information is missing on the first diamond?
I saw the Sarin and the AGS cert, and I think that this diamond is very well cut.
What would you ask Brian?----------------

No, I can't tell what PQ was talking about, but I also had a hard time comparing these two. I am writing 'cause I would also appreciate an answer...

As far as I judge, among the diagnostic tools used for cut quality around here, some are "screeners" - allowing to determine safe passes when optics are of concern, and others are meant to pinpoint the top stones based on their measured optical performance. Accordingly, Sarin and HCA allow a good bet and direct light return analysis refines the selection further for the perfectionist out there.

For these two stones, the screening is safely done based on Sarin, but since critical cut parameters remain outside this "choice by numbers" exercise, I would ask for comparable, direct light return analysis on both stones. If I may skip one of the two types of diagnostic, that would be the set of numbers - after all, if the cutter achieved the desired goal of great optics, I would not care all that much for what his tricks were... At all times, I confess to be much easier to dupe than the blunt physics.

 

[fire&ice]

I voted for two. I have no biased one way or the other to a particular vendor. I like two better because of it's spread - appears larger, has faint fluor & it's 10% cheaper.

I wouldn't diss either. And, in the end, I would see which one gave me the warm fuzzies.

 

[fire&ice]

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On 1/31/2004 11:31:37 PM Robyn12 wrote:

I notice number 2 has a feather inclusion. I don't know much about diamonds, but in general, I think a lot of people try to avoid this. Maybe someone else can comment on this?

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I'm freaky about feathers; but, in a VS1 stone this should not be a problem.

 

[pqcollectibles]

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On 2/1/2004 1:48:10 AM Stephan wrote:

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On 1/31/2004 11:25:49 PM pqcollectibles wrote:

I wouldn't choose either until I had complete information on #1 and got a chance to chat with Brian Gavin at White Flash.

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So PQ,
Can you tell me what information is missing on the first diamond?
I saw the Sarin and the AGS cert, and I think that this diamond is very very well cut.
What would you ask Brian?----------------

Well, first I would ask for IS image and H&A images. Take a look at those. Chat with Brian to get his thoughts on the diamond. Work from there.

The price difference isn't 10%. WF, PS Price is $8246 compared to $7930. Which could be somewhat accounted for by the industry discount for flour in an F.

I'd also want more info on the feather in the SC diamond.