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The second one is my favorite (1.01 F/VS2), but they''re all pretty! The facet pattern just seems more crisp than the other 2 princesses. The POH looks nice, but it looks too much like a round for my tastes. If I''m getting a princess, I want the pinfire of a princess, and if I''m getting a round, I want the chunky flashes of a round...know what I mean?
 
I know what you mean. I was leaning toward the second one as well. A lot of people are telling me the 3rd one is the favorite, but the second one stands out a little more to me.
 
of the princesses, I like #3 the least.
 
#2 gets my vote.
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I like the POH, and I can''t believe I''m the only one! It was stunning and looked so white for a J!!
 
I'm generally partial to POHs over princesses, and this is no exception. I think if I were shopping for an engagement ring right now, that's the cut I'd be focused on.

Of the princesses, I like #2... based on absolutely nothing but that my eye drifts to that one! I'm not a fan of #3 at all. The edges almost look splintered. I prefer chunkier facets. Maybe that's why the POH wins out overall for me.

Boondax, are you considering any of these stones, or is this a just-for-fun post?
 
I like the POH, but as far as princesses, definitely #2 - #3 is my least favorite.
 
Thanks for the input, everyone. people say #3, but the pricescopers give the nod to #2. I think I''ll place more emphasis on the pricescope opinion in this situation.

musey, I actually am considering any one of these stones. I''m looking to get engaged in May, but I figured it wouldn''t hurt to get a head start in the diamond search. After doing some research (and learning something new everyday), I''m so glad I started looking now.
 
I am doing a new post to clarify that I like the POH the best, but if the POH is out, then I like princess #2.
 
Just a quick thought...in that video, #2 seems to be the best performer. However, the GemEx Light Performance Report says otherwise. Is it common that what the eyes see and what the reports say conflict?

I''m looking to purchase a diamond next week. I''d like to have it set in a whiteflash setting. What is the best way to go about this? Have GOG ship the diamond to me and send it to whiteflash? What about the insurance recommendation by whiteflash? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
Go with your eyes.
Better to get the setting shipped to GOG so they can set the diamond and take responsibility while doing so. Talk to GOG about this.
Does WF have the only setting you want? Did you check to see if GOG has a similar one?
 
The POH is stunning!!! That would be my choice.

If I had to choose between the Princesses, #2 hands down.

Sorry if you said this already, but how are you going to set the stone? That might help you choose between the POH vs. Princess
 
I''m not into superwhite stones, especially princess cuts. I''ll take the Princess of Hearts J any day!
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Date: 1/22/2009 12:34:50 AM
Author: :)
I like the POH, but as far as princesses, definitely #2
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Date: 1/22/2009 12:45:48 AM
Author: Boondax
Just a quick thought...in that video, #2 seems to be the best performer. However, the GemEx Light Performance Report says otherwise. Is it common that what the eyes see and what the reports say conflict?

I'm looking to purchase a diamond next week. I'd like to have it set in a whiteflash setting. What is the best way to go about this? Have GOG ship the diamond to me and send it to whiteflash? What about the insurance recommendation by whiteflash? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Hey boondax,

In answer to your question ... The optical testing of the Bscope is done strictly in spot lighting so its effects can only be seen in that environment. Having said that the results on diamond #2, while perhaps not as high as one of the others is not, by any means a bad rating or results that would throw up a red flag here. When we do see Bscope results that we know to be questionable we'll confirm/deny when we do our visual exam of its fire and sparkle scintillation and if the optics are compromised its a pass. Interesting commentary as these princess' come from 3 different facilities cutting different flavors of AGS Ideal light performance. I have a personal favorite too but didn't state so in the video because even the least liked in the clip (#3) still has optics that smash 99% of princess cuts out there.
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Regarding the setting, absolutely we'll set it for you if you'd like; just make sure they prepare the prongs correctly. Check with the manufacturer though because some companies will void their warranties if another jeweler sets the diamond other than themselves.

Kind regards,
 
Rhino, a VERY BIG THANKS to you and Sarah for putting that video together. Could I ask what your favorite is? If you''re not comfortable posting it here, could you email it to me? I''ll reply to your email to make it a little easier. There''s so much work in searching for a diamond, but it seems to be well worth it. I really want to go with the PoH, but when I showed my girlfriend the video, she was really like one of the princess cuts. Initially, the PoH was her choice, but after seeing the video, she seems to prefer the smaller sparkles of the princess rather than the broader flashes of the PoH. She didn''t know she was looking at her future diamond haha.

Regarding the whiteflash setting and your diamond, I think whiteflash''s policy is that they will not send out a setting without a diamond. Does this mean that I have to have the diamond shipped to me and have whiteflash set it for me? I live in the Houston area anyway, so it wouldn''t be a problem if it had to be that way.
 
I''m going to be setting this on a Sleek Line Pave setting by WhiteFlash (if I can). Judging by past experiences on this board with GOG/WF, it looks like it shouldn''t be a problem.

All I have to do now is find out what the correct process is and follow through.
 
I like the POH best and then probably the #2 princess cut next best.
 
I know people like POH cuts, but I really like the look of the traditional princess cut. I guess it depends on what you like the best. They are very different looks. I like #2.
 
Hey boondax,

Thanks for the kind words.


Date: 1/22/2009 8:40:56 AM
Author: Boondax
Rhino, a VERY BIG THANKS to you and Sarah for putting that video together.
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A pleasure to serve. Sarah enjoys giving her dad orders for a change.
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Could I ask what your favorite is? If you''re not comfortable posting it here, could you email it to me? I''ll reply to your email to make it a little easier. There''s so much work in searching for a diamond, but it seems to be well worth it.
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There are times in my videos where I just can''t help but give my opinion on my favorite but when I am recording a bunch of stones with rare optics I like to let my clients pick what grab their eyes most in the clips. It has been our experience that those picked visually by them is what they would also pick live and some folks prefer slight nuances in one over another at times that we are able to capture in our hi def recording. We experiemented in the store with this and folks even here on the forum have flown to us from Canada to make the same correlation only to choose what they did the vid too. When the choice is clear, I''m happy to say so but when its close and you''ve watched enough of our clips you get to learn what you do and don''t like most and the key to helping people efficiently & effectively is learning their likes and dislikes.


There''s so much work in searching for a diamond, but it seems to be well worth it. I really want to go with the PoH, but when I showed my girlfriend the video, she was really like one of the princess cuts. Initially, the PoH was her choice, but after seeing the video, she seems to prefer the smaller sparkles of the princess rather than the broader flashes of the PoH. She didn''t know she was looking at her future diamond haha.
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This is precisely what I''m talking about dax. I am a big fan of H&A Squares but what I may prefer may not be what you, or more importantly *she* may prefer and she''s the one who will be doing your cooking.
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Regarding the whiteflash setting and your diamond, I think whiteflash''s policy is that they will not send out a setting without a diamond. Does this mean that I have to have the diamond shipped to me and have whiteflash set it for me? I live in the Houston area anyway, so it wouldn''t be a problem if it had to be that way.
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Either that or I can ship it directly to WF on your behalf. Our goal is to make this as simple and painless for you as humanly possible. Let Joanne know how you''d like to proceed and we''re here on standby for you.

Kind regards,
 
#2 gets my vote although the POH is super charming. I guess it depends on the look you are going for. I can''t believe how white the J POH looks.
 
Jon, does the 3rd Princess show a tad more brightness than the other two?

That's what I seem to see, and probably the one I'd pick out of the Princess. But my first pick would be the POH, I just prefer that look, but that's totally personal. No matter what you pick, you can't go wrong!
 
Date: 1/24/2009 9:15:02 AM
Author: Ellen
Jon, does the 3rd Princess show a tad more brightness than the other two?

That''s what I seem to see, and probably the one I''d pick out of the Princess. But my first pick would be the POH, I just prefer that look, but that''s totally personal. No matter what you pick, you can''t go wrong!
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Not sure if I''d use the word "more" in this scenario but you''re onto something though. The contrast pattern is definitely different as the darker reflections, particularly in diamond #1 are more pronounced than in #3 but they both have contrast. Diamond #1 shows what is perhaps stronger contrast while #3 less but seemingly lighter/brighter. The flavor that comes from that facility in Ideal Princess Cuts also reflects, to a degree the same thinking with their rounds. Ie. Many of their rounds are cut to 41.0 degree pavilion angles which in the GIA Ex/AGS Ideal realm show less darker reflections (in a critical/practical observation) avoiding moreso head/body reflection. The same is true of their Princess Cuts. You can also see the critical results of what I''m saying (and you''re seeing) via the ASET photography we take. Below is a comparison of the ASET''s between #1 and #3 and you can see the more pronounced blues in #1 with less blues and more reds in #3. Neat eh?

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In the vid #2 has better edge to edge brightness and the ASET shows that, the darker edges is what turned me off on 3.
 
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Date: 1/24/2009 2:06:08 PM
Author: Rhino

Date: 1/24/2009 9:15:02 AM
Author: Ellen
Jon, does the 3rd Princess show a tad more brightness than the other two?

That''s what I seem to see, and probably the one I''d pick out of the Princess. But my first pick would be the POH, I just prefer that look, but that''s totally personal. No matter what you pick, you can''t go wrong!
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Not sure if I''d use the word ''more'' in this scenario but you''re onto something though. The contrast pattern is definitely different as the darker reflections, particularly in diamond #1 are more pronounced than in #3 but they both have contrast. Diamond #1 shows what is perhaps stronger contrast while #3 less but seemingly lighter/brighter. The flavor that comes from that facility in Ideal Princess Cuts also reflects, to a degree the same thinking with their rounds. Ie. Many of their rounds are cut to 41.0 degree pavilion angles which in the GIA Ex/AGS Ideal realm show less darker reflections (in a critical/practical observation) avoiding moreso head/body reflection. The same is true of their Princess Cuts. You can also see the critical results of what I''m saying (and you''re seeing) via the ASET photography we take. Below is a comparison of the ASET''s between #1 and #3 and you can see the more pronounced blues in #1 with less blues and more reds in #3. Neat eh?
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Yes! And the contrast pattern is indeed different.

strm, I just looked at it again, paying particular attention to the stones under diffused lighting. I don''t see them as darker at all, however, the whiter areas are distributed a bit differently, to me. Yes, in that one single shot I see what you''re saying, but overall I didn''t.

But, I think we''re splitting split hairs here.
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And I still like 3 best.
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It's getting very close to purchasing time, but I've got more questions. Everyday, I feel like I'm sure which cut I want, then the next day I lean more towards the other. It's down to diamond #2 vs the PoH

I tried getting a preference out of my girlfriend, but she keeps saying she likes them all (lucky me)

My question to you all is how would the PoH look on a white gold Sleek Line Pave Setting from WF? I'm afraid that the J color might show more against the white gold background and whiter accent diamonds. Here is the link to the setting:

http://www.whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Diamond-Settings/-Sleek-Line-Pave--Diamond-Engagement-Ring_1184.htm#

Considering the setting is white gold with white accent stones, will the PoH show it's J color?

I just got back from the Philippines, and I'm exhausted. It was a long flight/short stay, so I never got any real sleep, PLUS I've had a tug-of-war about F color Princess vs J color Princess of Hearts in mind the whole trip.

More suggestions please!
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Stone #2 is an exciting princess! I normally go for chunky flashes, so I expected to like the PoH the best, but that princess is a total knockout. I think it''ll look sublime and icy in the sleekline pave setting and an F colored stone is a thing of beauty. Best of luck with your choices!
 
Out of the princesses number 2 and 3 are my favourites but I also like the chunky flashes of the POH.

I think any of those diamonds would look beautiful in the setting you have picked, which is beautiful btw.
 
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