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f1dfoto

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First off, huge thank you to the experts on this site. I can't tell you how much less stressful this whole process became after finding pricescope.

I'm looking for a stone about 0.8-0.9 ct with ideal cut, good color, etc. Favoring cut above clarity, color, and carat, I've found a bunch of great candidates - one of which seems too good to be true:

0.858ct H VS2 for $3,800
Ideal Cut (AGS)
6.09 x 6.11 x 3.76
Table 56.1%
Depth 61.7%
Crown Angle 34.9 deg
Pav Angle 40.7

ASET:
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That seems like an amazing deal compared to:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.81-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-1917088 (H&A G VS2 0.81ct for $4,100)

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.803-g-vs2-round-diamond-ags-104087405075 (BG signature H&A G VS2 0.80ct for $4,600)

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3699006.htm (WF ACA H VS1 0.84ct for $4,600)

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3703116.htm (WF ACA H VS2 0.85ct for $4,300)


I've always learned that if something seems to good to be true, it probably is. Is that the case here? Does it really get such a huge penalty for having a color grade of H? Or is just priced *really* well?
 

E B

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The numbers and ASET look great. As long as it's eye-clean and doesn't have any inclusions that pose a durability risk, snatch it up!
 

lovedogs

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Snatch it up! I saw that one (my friend is also looking for a diamond of approx that size and I showed him this one). It's excellent--I'd recommend buying it asap :)
 

diamondseeker2006

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The stone looks fine, but none of those comps are relevant except the last one which is also H VS2. True hearts and arrows precision cut stone generally carry a premium over regular ideal cuts, so that is why you see the similar spec ACA at a few hundred dollars more. I have no idea where your stone is from, but Whiteflash has an excellent upgrade policy which also is added value for those who wish to use it.
 

lovedogs

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diamondseeker2006|1469592957|4059724 said:
The stone looks fine, but none of those comps are relevant except the last one which is also H VS2. True hearts and arrows precision cut stone generally carry a premium over regular ideal cuts, so that is why you see the similar spec ACA at a few hundred dollars more. I have no idea where your stone is from, but Whiteflash has an excellent upgrade policy which also is added value for those who wish to use it.
That is a good point, DS! Those comps aren't very realistic in terms of direct comparisons. I was more just reacting to the specs of the stone in question and price being competitive from what I've seen. But 100% agree that WF is worth the value to many people due to the upgrade policy, and that precision cuts (ACA) or true H&A cuts aren't the right thing to compare to regular ideal cuts.
 

Gypsy

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As long as there are no transparency issue due to graining or anything that is making the stone hazy, I think you are fine. Just confirm that with the vendor.
 

flyingpig

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0.858ct H VS2 for $3,800
I would not worry about too much
I have seen near super ideal with a perfect ASET 0.9 H VS2 between $3,700~$4,200.

AGS 0.85 H VS2 is cheap at $3800, but not unreasonable. Great find. Such deal pops up here and there once in awhile.

It may be a good idea to share the actual link of the diamond, if you have already paid for it.

ps. Does the diamond have med~strong fluo? If so, that could be the reason for the discount.
 

f1dfoto

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