WF CADs for 1.4ct ACA ~ Please help compare to inspiration

[Slickk]

Hi all! My DS and I could use some help from the seasoned experts here to determine if the WF CAD is a good rendering of his inspiration setting. Unfortunately, the inspiration setting from Brilliant Earth and they won't sell the setting alone. I'll attach a pic of his ACA as well. So excited to see this come together for him and his FF. In the image with the proportions, his stone is the one on the right. If you have any concerns with it, please also comment. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3986356.htm
Thank you for taking a look!

 

[cokitty]

This looks extremely close to me. I see a small difference in the BE shank appears to widen a bit just before the head and the WF tapers in. I think with the larger center stone in the WF will make the difference moot.

 

[Slickk]

This looks extremely close to me. I see a small difference in the BE shank appears to widen a bit just before the head and the WF tapers in. I think with the larger center stone in the WF will make the difference moot.

Thank you for pointing that out. Great catch! I think we prefer the taper because doesn't that make the center stone appear larger? Thank you for taking a look!

 

[rockysalamander]

I think its a great version. I love low very low that diamond sits!

Both the BE and WF version share that they will not allow a flush wedding band unless the band is quite low to the finger. I found some threads on another board that woman found that annoying. To fix that, I think you would only need to ask them to make sure the prongs don't project beyond the twist.

On this drawing, I showed a wedding band. The area where the ring and red line overlap (darker red/pink) prevents a flush wedding band. Its a simply fix. You can ask them to just "suck" in that part of the prongs to allow a flush fit wedding band or sit them on top of the shank like their "flush-fit" engagement ring Model 4714. The sucking in would keep the diamond lower than sitting the prongs on the shanks.

 

[Slickk]

@rockysalamander Very good point about the band! We will definitely ask them to tuck the prongs in to allow a flush wedding band. Many thanks!

We also see that there may be a space between the twists, which she does not like.
Here is picture of one she tried on locally when looking at HoF diamonds.

 

[rockysalamander]

Slimming the space should be a easy fix. Nice catch.

One thing I just noticed is that there is no cleaning access from underneath the pave band. I always prefer to have the ability to clean the bottom of the stones. It may or may not be possible with this kind of twisted setting, but certainly worth asking about.

 

[Slickk]

Slimming the space should be a easy fix. Nice catch.

One thing I just noticed is that there is no cleaning access from underneath the pave band. I always prefer to have the ability to clean the bottom of the stones. It may or may not be possible with this kind of twisted setting, but certainly worth asking about.

Wow! That Canera is awesome. It's a beautiful look when the stones curve with the band. Not sure if that can be accomplished with a cast ring instead of handmade.
I also will tell DS to ask if there are holes in the band that allow for cleaning underneath!
Thanks soooo much. Any comment on the stone we chose?

 

[rockysalamander]

Wow! That Canera is awesome. It's a beautiful look when the stones curve with the band. Not sure if that can be accomplished with a cast ring instead of handmade.
I also will tell DS to ask if there are holes in the band that allow for cleaning underneath!
Thanks soooo much. Any comment on the stone we chose?

Stones can follow the band in both hand-forged or cad. Its just about the angle you drill the holes for the pave. Glad you liked the idea.

{accidentally delete link in my prior post. https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/braided-shank-pave-solitaire}

Video on setting pave. So, if you just tilt the drill, you tilt the diamonds.

p.s. Diamond is fantastic! Love ACAs. Nice balance of the 4 Cs.

 

[Slickk]

@rockysalamander Oh thank you so much for the pointers on the pave in the shank! Definitely will have DS tell them that!
Also, I really appreciate your taking a look at the stone...I have learned so much here that I thought I could find a great stone myself I'm glad you think it was a great pick. He was thinking of sticking with a VS stone, when I found this eye-clean SI1 with one tiny inclusion. It was less included than the VS he had chosen! I told him, "The experts say never pay for what you can't see!"
He has been reading along here, he'll feel reassured as well with your comment as I told him he was lucky you chimed in. Your expertise is apparent! My sincerest appreciation to you for your time!

 

[sledge]

Issue 1:
Looking at the top view, the WF version didn't add the rest of the twists. Look at the area in the red circles. WF cut them short at the blue lines.



Issue 2:
The inspiro piece appears to have be slightly skinnier. Look at the thickness of the bottom of the bands at each red circle. Also, look at the blue arrow. There is a distinct line on the inside of the band and on the outside it appears they are treating this as TWO bands merged together.




Issue 3:
I *think* the original inspiro merges back at the bottom into a "single" band, although it looks like separate bands as it does the twist up higher. See the green circle for the point it "joins" again on the inspiro.



See how the WF band is keeping it as "two" bands?



Issue 4:
Have you seen the inspiro in person? I'm not sure if the WF version is right or not but one thing I don't like is how straight the bands get after that first curve. Look in the blue box and see what I mean? It looks "stiff".



This is a personal preference, but I think it would soften the ring a bit and give it a little flow if you slightly curve the bottom pieces and make them join (see purple & green lines). Then they could transition to the bottom (orange) and skinny out as I mentioned in Issue 2.



Issue 5:
This could be an issue with the CAD drawings vs final production piece, but notice the areas in blue below. On the inspiro they look very smooth. On the WF rendering these look like harder well defined joints and I think they need smoothed out.

 

[sledge]

Phew. Just re-read this as I was quoting. You picked the stone on the right. Good job! I didn't like the crown angle of the slightly larger one on the left as it puts it out of range to be a true H&A stone. Which I then noticed is probably why it was a premium select. Again, moot point as you picked the 1.4 ACA.

Chart for grins...

 

[Slickk]

@sledge Wow! Great eye for detail. These are definitely good points you make. DS is coming over today and we'll sit and look over your suggestions and send an email to WF. Thank you very much.
Also, yes! We were comparing three stones and for the purpose of posting the stats here if I deleted the expert selection stone, I would've lost the angle titles on the left. I can't wait to see an ACA in person! It just might make me become an H&A fan rather than the old cuts I adore!
Your input is much appreciated!!

 

[sledge]

Thank you @Sandeek. Just trying to re-pay the help that has been extended my way on my own ring project. Hopefully it will be useful to you guys. Good luck! Can't wait to see the finished project.

 

[Weecam]

Stones can follow the band in both hand-forged or cad. Its just about the angle you drill the holes for the pave. Glad you liked the idea.

{accidentally delete link in my prior post. https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/braided-shank-pave-solitaire}

Video on setting pave. So, if you just tilt the drill, you tilt the diamonds.

p.s. Diamond is fantastic! Love ACAs. Nice balance of the 4 Cs.

That was a cool video!