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[Pandora II]

Date: 9/16/2008 4:11:25 PM
Author: nycbkgirl
Robbie...congrats ..seeing that line is just the most exciting thing ever...i was shaking hysterically lol. but i recommend ladies doing the hpt the mornign before beta in my opinion it just keeps you from goin nuts through the 2ww ...you need as little stress as possible

sabine...im so sorry hun ..damn that AFF

...i always say it is better to jump right into the next cycle and keep a straight head for the ultimate goal..its upsettiing and stressful for sure but keep going and be positive!

the POI injections are doing a number on me...it is just so painful and my rear is in agonizing pain..anyone have any tips to ease the pain??

Here in the UK they don''t do betas - they may if you are doing IVF, but otherwise it''s an HPT. The doctors don''t even do a repeat PG test when you see them.

I think it also depends on your personality - I started testing at 8DPO knowing I''d get BFNs whether I was KU or not. I guess I just need to occupy my mind in some way!

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Exciting, ROBBIE!!!

We totally don''t mind you hanging around here until you''re ready to graduate up to the mommas-to-be group.

 

[mela lu]

Date: 9/16/2008 5:45:06 PM
Author: Pandora II

Date: 9/16/2008 4:11:25 PM
Author: nycbkgirl
Robbie...congrats ..seeing that line is just the most exciting thing ever...i was shaking hysterically lol. but i recommend ladies doing the hpt the mornign before beta in my opinion it just keeps you from goin nuts through the 2ww ...you need as little stress as possible

sabine...im so sorry hun ..damn that AFF

...i always say it is better to jump right into the next cycle and keep a straight head for the ultimate goal..its upsettiing and stressful for sure but keep going and be positive!

the POI injections are doing a number on me...it is just so painful and my rear is in agonizing pain..anyone have any tips to ease the pain??

Here in the UK they don''t do betas - they may if you are doing IVF, but otherwise it''s an HPT. The doctors don''t even do a repeat PG test when you see them.

I think it also depends on your personality - I started testing at 8DPO knowing I''d get BFNs whether I was KU or not. I guess I just need to occupy my mind in some way!

Here in Canada they don''t test your beta''s either. I had to ask for mine to be done, and I wish I''d pressed her into ordering a follow-up (just to make sure they''re doubling nicely). That is just the deeeeeeeetailed PS''er in me.

Now I''m on my own until my 11-12wk ultrasound. I''m still waiting to be "accepted" at my local midwife clinic - so technically, I''m currently without pre-natal care.

Also crazy is that here in Canada (and I think the US is the same), we only get one more u/s at about 20 weeks when they measure and make sure all parts are accounted for. Then that''s it, that''s all, see you at the "big push"!

 

[fisherofmengirly]

What is BETA? What does it measure? If you can''t test it on your own, how would you be able to wait to take a HPT until after you know your BETA?

 

[ljmorgan]

Congrats Robbie!! Sending lots of sticky vibes your way!

 

[NYCsparkle]

YAY!!!! congrats Robbie!!!

when i was pregnant w/ ds thats how my frer line looked too....a line is a line no matter how faint.

Jerkstore city around here---i hope to catch it.

i''m 8dpo today and very crampy...almost like aff is coming in the morning....very unusual...i usually start the cramping the day before.

 

[nycbkgirl]

interesting about the international ways of doing things

but i meant try to wait on taking the hpt until the day your blood test is scheduled at least 14dpt only beacuse you can get negatives and make yourself upset and stressed...and just like in robbie''s case...it was - but then +

but i know its hard to do because curiosity is such a killer

? about poi injections...what happens if you inject it when there is blood?? they say pull out syringe to check for blood and if you see pull out and start over but my sister sometimes doesnt see the blood and injects it when actually turns out there was ?? so im upset that the injection didnt work if that happens and didnt go where its supposed to go if that makes sense lol.

 

[Pandora II]

Date: 9/16/2008 7:25:05 PM
Author: mela lu

Date: 9/16/2008 5:45:06 PM
Author: Pandora II

Date: 9/16/2008 4:11:25 PM
Author: nycbkgirl
Robbie...congrats ..seeing that line is just the most exciting thing ever...i was shaking hysterically lol. but i recommend ladies doing the hpt the mornign before beta in my opinion it just keeps you from goin nuts through the 2ww ...you need as little stress as possible

sabine...im so sorry hun ..damn that AFF

...i always say it is better to jump right into the next cycle and keep a straight head for the ultimate goal..its upsettiing and stressful for sure but keep going and be positive!

the POI injections are doing a number on me...it is just so painful and my rear is in agonizing pain..anyone have any tips to ease the pain??

Here in the UK they don''t do betas - they may if you are doing IVF, but otherwise it''s an HPT. The doctors don''t even do a repeat PG test when you see them.

I think it also depends on your personality - I started testing at 8DPO knowing I''d get BFNs whether I was KU or not. I guess I just need to occupy my mind in some way!

Here in Canada they don''t test your beta''s either. I had to ask for mine to be done, and I wish I''d pressed her into ordering a follow-up (just to make sure they''re doubling nicely). That is just the deeeeeeeetailed PS''er in me.

Now I''m on my own until my 11-12wk ultrasound. I''m still waiting to be ''accepted'' at my local midwife clinic - so technically, I''m currently without pre-natal care.

Also crazy is that here in Canada (and I think the US is the same), we only get one more u/s at about 20 weeks when they measure and make sure all parts are accounted for. Then that''s it, that''s all, see you at the ''big push''!

Here they won''t do them even if they ask - it''s a case of ''well what''s the point - it won''t help anything'', if you''ve had 3 MCs then they will refer you and the care is more comprehensive.

Normally you just get the 12 wk and 20 wk US and nothing more in the way of apointments - I''m OB led so I may get a few more.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 9/16/2008 7:25:05 PM
Author: mela lu

Here in Canada they don''t test your beta''s either. I had to ask for mine to be done, and I wish I''d pressed her into ordering a follow-up (just to make sure they''re doubling nicely). That is just the deeeeeeeetailed PS''er in me.

Now I''m on my own until my 11-12wk ultrasound. I''m still waiting to be ''accepted'' at my local midwife clinic - so technically, I''m currently without pre-natal care.

Also crazy is that here in Canada (and I think the US is the same), we only get one more u/s at about 20 weeks when they measure and make sure all parts are accounted for. Then that''s it, that''s all, see you at the ''big push''!

This is the norm in many placed Mela. You don''t really need "prenatal" care before that point because there is nothing to do except wait wait wait! The beta numbers don''t even really guarantee anything! It is just one big waiting game.

 

[sunkist]

Hooray, Robbie!! Congrats on your line, momma

So this was your first month of really TTC? Were you charting before and just not really aiming for conception, or was this really your first month with out protection? Anyways, I''m so happy for you. I always remember you as my diamond twin with our K .93/.95 ct., cause I think we got them around the same time.

CONGRATS!!

 

[Pandora II]

I think Robbie was the same as me - we''d been charting whist using protection, then made a decision to start TTC a certain month and halfway through the month before thought - what are we waiting for?

DH and I ''officially'' started TTC in August - along with temping/preseed etc etc. We didn''t use protection for the last 12 days of the previous month, and even though we hoped we might have caught it, it wasn''t a month we had set out at the beginning to TTC if that makes sense.

I think you did that as well Robbie?

 

[robbie3982]

Thanks Snlee, Indy, nycbkgirl, sha, lindsey and nycsparkle!

Fisher, a beta is a pregnancy blood test. Not everyone gets them. I'm not getting one unless they do one at my first appointment next month.

Sunkist, I forgot that we're almost diamond twins! Maybe we'll be almost jerkstore twins too!

Pandora's close (good memory!). I've been charting since I stopped the pill last October, but it started as charting to avoid pregnancy. We just moved in March and I got a new job so we really didn't want to get pregnant before I'd been there 3 months so I would be able to take FMLA. We kind of took baby steps into the whole TTC thing. I think it was July that we stopped using protection and started using withdrawal only. In August while we were on vacation at the beach we decided to start TTC, but I'd taken a break from charting that month and the decision was made right around when I ovulate on average. It turned out to be an early ovulation month and we missed it by at least 2 days (only known in hindsight based off of when AFF came since I knew the range my LP could be). So, this is the first real month of trying I guess. We'd actually planned to start trying in November. DH is fixated with that month for some reason and he really liked that it would most likely give us a July baby. His bday is in July and he said that he wanted the baby to me a little mini-him. Haha. I told him it'll have half of his genes, it'll be a little mini-him no matter what month we have it in. Being around all of our nieces and nephews at the beach made him want to start sooner

.

I tested this morning with another FRER and the line is still really faint so I'm not going to try the digi again yet. It looks like it might even be a bit fainter than yesterday, but it's hard to say since I think yesterday's actually got a bit darker and clearer as it dried. Even if it is fainter, I'm not worried since sensitivity can vary from test to test (even in the same box) as can the amount of dye on the test. Looks like I'll have to wait at least a few more days before trying a digi. I'm thinking I should just go get a bunch of $trees and start testing on those since they're cheaper and less sensitive than the FRERs, but more sensitive than the digis. When I can get a positive on one of those I'll at least have a better shot at getting a positive on a digi.

Anyone have any fun ways to tell my 2 bffs who are coming in tomorrow? They're both 25-year-old men who were my bffs in college. I haven't seen either of them since my wedding last year because they both live far away. We used to have a few inside jokes about Full House so I was thinking maybe making a dinner with all kinds of "baby" food items (baby corn, baby carrots, etc) like Aunt Becky did when she was telling Uncle Jesse she was pregnant, but I'm not sure if they remember specific episodes like me (what can I say, I'm a freak like that. lol) and then it would be kind of dumb (and they'd be hungry!). Any suggestions?

 

[mela lu]

OMG Robbie you are cracking me UP right now! Full house reference!!! Uncle Jesse! hahahaha. I''m so much more crude than you

so I''d set the table with condoms and warnings like "drink the water at your own risk. There seems to be a pregnancy epidemic in the house". LOL.

Oh Robbie, this is all so much fun!!!

 

[robbie3982]

LOL, mela, that''s a pretty good way too!

 

[Jas12]

congrats robbie--seems like just yesterday i was reading about the wedding details on BWW...now you''re gonna be a momma!!

 

[blushingbride]

Date: 9/17/2008 11:50:03 AM
Author: Jas12
congrats robbie--seems like just yesterday i was reading about the wedding details on BWW...now you're gonna be a momma!!

Ditto! CONGRATS my dear Robbie!!!! You and your DH must be THRILLED!!!!

Just doing a drive by as I got back from my business trip... Any symptoms you were aware of????

 

[robbie3982]

Thanks jas and blushing!

Blushing, only symptoms pre-bfp were lack of spotting at 11dpo (I had some when I checked internally, but I always have enough to see on the tp on 11dpo) and some visible veins on the boobs. I know it''s supposed to be too early for that, but apparently my boobs aren''t following the rules. I''m already up a cup size from last week and I''m not even officially late for AF yet (that would be tomorrow). At this rate, I''ll be a double D by next week!

 

[ChinaCat]

Hello everybody. I haven''t been able to check PS for a week now, so just wanted to say hi- won''t be able to comment on everyone now, will catch up later.

Just wanted to say a quick hopeful congrats to Robbie!!!!

And I feel like I am missing someone???

Hello to all of the new posters!

As for me, I was attending one of my best friend''s weddings over the weekend. All of my friends are spread far apart, so it was extra nice to get everyone together in one place. So- THREE of my best friends announced to me that they are preggo this weekend! Then we got stranded because we couldn''t fly back because of Hurricane Ike and I had left our dog behind so I was a major stress-case all weekend. Anyways, talk about an overwhelming weekend. Amber, I feel your pain. Though we aren''t trying yet, so I don''t exactly feel jealous, just completely left out. But I am so happy for them, they have wanted this for a long time.

Anyways, hope all is well with everyone. Keep on keeping on!

 

[ChargerGrrl]

Date: 9/17/2008 1:47:34 PM
Author: blushingbride

Date: 9/17/2008 11:50:03 AM
Author: Jas12
congrats robbie--seems like just yesterday i was reading about the wedding details on BWW...now you''re gonna be a momma!!

Ditto! CONGRATS my dear Robbie!!!! You and your DH must be THRILLED!!!!

Just doing a drive by as I got back from my business trip... Any symptoms you were aware of????

Thritto! CONGRATS Mr & Mrs Robbie.

 

[E B]

Yay, Robbie! Congratulations!

CD 12, here. Just got the first "high" on my monitor this morning, as well as some watery CM, so I''m hoping for O any day now. Aaaand the waiting continues.

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Good luck, Ebree I hope you have a healthy egg that catches a perfect swimmer.

 

[E B]

Date: 9/17/2008 8:36:17 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
Good luck, Ebree I hope you have a healthy egg that catches a perfect swimmer.

Why thank you! How are you feeling? 8 DPO, right? How do your temps look?

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Hi, Ebree.

Didn't you say you were going without any medical interventions this go round? I hope that will lend itself to making you both more relaxed, and feeling like it's less a chore and more like it's the building of a family through love. Or something a little less cheesy than that, but you know what I mean.

I'm feeling good, thanks for asking. I've been really sleepy lately, but I think I'm still working through (mentally and emotionally) the drama from the weekend with my brother. I am 8 days past ovulation (I HOPE!!!) and my temp. today was exactly the same as yesterday: 98.59. It's still up there, way above the coverline. I've not had any sort of dip, and while I know that's not necessarily needed for implantation and pregnancy, I'd still like to see it. But not if that means my O day is going to change like it did before.

I've been trying REALLY hard not to look for "symptoms" since they make me nuts and are somewhat phantom this early on, anyway.

I've been spending my time trying to keep my mind off of when I can finally, finally pee on a stick by working on baby blankets for friends. Next I'm going to make little baby hats. Gosh, those are so cute and fast to make. I like the instant gratification of it.

Also, every night Paul and I have been flipping through a baby name book. It's fun. Some names I never knew I liked, I like. Funny how that works out.

The more I hear Paul's new favorite girl name, the more it grows on me. I still prefer my fav. name, though.

But of course, we're putting the cart before the horse again, now aren't we?

Here's a funny tidbit that makes me smile, in a wry way: *IF* we were to be pregnant this cycle, with this ovulation date, our estimated due date would be June 2, 2009. Anyone remember Paul's brother who's less than my biggest fan? That's his birthday. Maybe having a nephew or neice as a birthday present would be enough for him to at least call a truce?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 9/17/2008 8:54:45 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
Hi, Ebree.

... feeling like it''s less a chore and more like it''s the building of a family through love. Or something a little less cheesy than that, but you know what I mean.

Fisher you are too funny! That''s great about the temp! Without a doubt, you are an ovulating woman!

Do''t worry about the dip, it means nothing. Only 20% of preggos get it so it doesn''t matter one little bit.

 

[fisherofmengirly]

DD,

I hope you''re right about me for sure being an ovulating girl. I''ll be ecstatic when that''s for sure! I think that until this cycle is completely done and I don''t have any more cross hair changes, I will remain skeptical. But if I''m able to *know* that I do in fact ovulate, I''ll be hyper crazy nuts excited. "I drop eggs. I drop eggs!!!" I''ll scream it from the streets (or at least to Paul).

Now, my next question for the wealth of knowledge around here is about LP length. I''ve read that it''s typically between 13-16 days or so. Well, is it ever longer? I mean, can I expect my period to be here sometime toward the mid/end of next week, if I''m not preggo? Or can a person have a *long* LP?

I ask for two reasons: 1. because I want to know why my cycles are so nutty and I don''t want to expect something to happen next week which may be another two weeks off, and 2. because I want to know when I can expect to finally be able to pee on a stick. I once had the thought that I''d be able to do it THIS week, and I''d hate to have to wait past next week to do it.

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Just for kicks, I went back to FF and charted CM up to this point. It still gives me CD 26 for ovulation day, and the line went to solid. Maybe I should leave it that way, since it does provide more information.

But then again, I still don''t know for sure that I''m charting or "reading" CM right, so maybe I should take it off.

It''s still really funny odd to me that the two times my temps dipped to imply ovulation are also times that I had what I *think* is fertile CM.

 

[sunkist]

Date: 9/17/2008 11:06:31 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly

It''s still really funny odd to me that the two times my temps dipped to imply ovulation are also times that I had what I *think* is fertile CM.

Hey Fishie, maybe your body did produce fertile CM and was going to ovulate the first time, but for some reason it didn''t. And then you saw fertile CM a second time and that time you really ovulated. The body can delay ovulation sometimes so maybe your body started to get ready and then decided something wasn''t quite right yet. Everyday collecting your data you''re getting more clues. I hope it helps you to get your cycle figured out sooner and not later

 

[fisherofmengirly]

I couldn't go back to sleep this morning after my wake up call for Paul. I thought I'd come and see if Robbie (or anyone else) had any news to share. I guess we can't hope for as much excitement with pee as we've had in the past few weeks. Tons of preggos around here!

Here's hoping it spreads like wildfire!!

Tomorrow I will be in the double digits of DPO. I wonder if that means I could potentially test during the weekend. I've been SO good and haven't done it yet (not even when I thought I had that earlier ovulation date). Last cycle, I was doing it all the time since I had no idea when to do it since my cycle was SO long. It was very drama-laden. I don't want to do that this time. I wish I could say I *felt* pregnant, but I don't. I feel sleepy a lot, but I still think that's about the weekend and drama and me still coming down from all that. I can't get comfortable when I try to go to sleep, and I randomly have issues with that. I feel kind of silly even hoping for this to be our cycle, since we put so much effort into what wasn't ovulation and just got in one BD session with what was ovulation. But I still want my day to pee on a stick, dang it! I feel it's been earned!

*****
NYCSparkle,

How are you doing today? Still crampy? Are you planning to test any time soon?

 

[Pandora II]

LOL, I had NO willpower whatsoever about POAS early!

Finally got back home yesterday and took another HPT - I so don''t feel pg that I practically started wondering if I still was. Well, the line came up before the control line did and is darker than the control, so I guess I was worrying for nothing!

The only thing I felt in the 2ww was extraordinarily tired and sleepy - mainly in the afternoon. I''m normally a night owl, so this was quite strange. I''m still exhausted all the time - and need the bathroom about 20x more than usual. I still don''t have sore (*)(*)s, although they do seem to be expanding quite significantly! Not that I''m complaining - my mother and both my sisters are DD+ whereas I only got a smaller side of B.

Fisher, I would test at the weekend - you''ll be 11DPO on Saturday right? I think 10-16 days is normal, ideally you want something in the 12+ range. Mine is always 14 days exactly, so I got a BFP 3 days before the end of my LP. If you are on a 16 day LP, the latest I would wait to start testing (if you are not one of these super-patient people who wants to wait till AF is due/late to test) is 13DPO which will be Monday.

 

[robbie3982]

Thanks Chinacat, charger and ebree! To me, it feels like planning my wedding was a million years ago! So much has happened in the last year. When I think about it all, it reminds me of that Mirena commercial (got married, got a new job, moved out of state, bought a house, got pregnant...) lol.

Fisher, do you crochet using a pattern or just freehand (is that what you call it when you crochet? lol)? I used to crochet, but it''s been a while. I found a ton of yarn when we moved so I''ve been thinking about picking it up again. Have any good patterns to share? I agree not to worry about dip or no dip. I had no dip and looking at my chart, I wouldn''t have thought it was a bfp chart at all from comparing my temps to others. Your LP can be shorter than 13 days (mine averages 11 so I had a range of 10-12) and longer than 16. Most people do not have one longer than 17 days though and that''s why it''s pretty safe to say that you''re pregnant after 18 consecutive temps above coverline. Yay to solid crosshairs! The dip in temp could be associated with a rise in estrogen which is also responsible for fertile cm so it makes sense. I agree with sunkist that your body was probably gearing up to O that first time, but then didn''t for some reason. Some people are able to get a bfp at 10dpo or earlier, but it''s not very common. I got mine at 12dpo and it was super faint. It''s still faint actually. If you test early, I HIGHLY recommend using a first response early result. It picked it up for me when nothing else did. Not feeling pregnant definitely doesn''t mean anything. I still don''t feel pregnant. Honestly, the only things that are different for me right now are the missed period and the fact that my boobs are getting veiny and huge. Last week I was wearing a 34C, yesterday I had to switch to a 34D and today I''m in a 36D. Today''s doesn''t fit perfectly, but the 34D was too small and I couldn''t find any 34DD''s to even try on yesterday when I went to TJ Maxx and I happened to have soem 36Ds in my drawer.

Pandora, I''m glad to hear I''m not the only one who''s boobs are getting bigger so early! I''m kind of freaked out about it. I vaguely remember my mom telling me once that she was a B when she got married, but a DD after she had me. That would put me in DDD range when this little one comes...

I can''t ask her about it yet though because DH wants to wait to tell the parents until after the first doctors appointment.

I bought 5 $tree tests yesterday so that I can wait until I get a decent line on one before I use my last digi (I want to see the word pregnant!) since they''re supposed to be more sensitive than the digis. It was the faintest line I''ve ever seen. Couldn''t see it at all without taking the test apart and if I hadn''t already gotten two bfps on FRERs I don''t think I would''ve know it was a bfp.

DH and I got in a bit of a fight yesterday. I mentioned wanting to tell our parents before the doctor appointment since I''m awful at secrets and I''m even worse at lying and I see my mom almost every day. How am I supposed to not tell her?! She''s going to know something is up and if she asks, I won''t be able to lie and then she''ll feel bad that we didn''t tell her. On the other hand, she does have a really big mouth and is even worse at keeping secrets than I am and my entire family would know before we made it to the doctor. So, after explaining this to DH he blurts out, "We''re not even sure that you''re pregnant yet!" Uh...what?! I''m pretty f''n sure since I got a BFP! So I got mad at him for not believing, he said he did believe and that''s not what he meant, but I could tell that he was lying. I ended up in tears (first preggo hormonal meltdown?) and he finally told me that he wasn''t sure that we could trust the test since the line was faint and 2 others said no. Apparently he hasn''t been listening when I''ve been telling him that FRERs are more sensitive than the ones that were negative and that a line is a line no matter what. I explained that the reason I wanted to wait to tell some people wasn''t because I''m not sure if I''m pregnant, but because there''s a high risk of miscarriage early on (another reason I wish I could talk to my mom about this since she had a few between my sister and I). I told him that even if I were to miscarry tomorrow or a month from now it wouldn''t change the fact that I AM pregnant right now. He says he believes it, but I still think he''s kind of skeptical which is why I really really want to have enough HCG for a digi already. I think that will really hit it home for him. I''m thinking possibly by Saturday. I''m going to keep testing every day with a $tree until I see a decent line though. Those digis are expensive.