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There are a fairly large group of individuals who support President Trump, very vocally. President Trump plays to them.
However, the reality is that most elections are not won or lost by just vocal groups. They are won or lost based on money - and how that money is spent.
For many decades (if not over a century) the Republican Party mainly depended on Business for donations and other forms of support.
My personal opinion is that the Republican Party left me (or what part of me they once had): If you want to discuss conservative fiscal policy, the appropriate limited role of government, and many other true conservative policies (which do not include modern and historically strange religious views; and actually includes a much broader version of personal rights than the current Republican Party); I'm likely in for that (and I respect those who have other positions - and hope to find workable middle ground). It is also my personal opinion that President Trump - and the this years Republican Party represents none of that (in fact - they represent the opposite in many cases).
It's not just me: I have not met a business person (man or woman) in the last 3 months who is not looking where to better put their political contributions... and it's not going to the Republican National Party - or even the State Party in many cases...
I see a seismic shift in future political funding starting. I think for the good; because these people are almost always focusing on individual candidates - independent of party. They are even encouraging people to run for office (usually at the local level first - which they have rarely done before).
The result is that I believe that the Republican Party will not be able to run that effective of a campaign in 2020. A lot of other people - and even the Democratic Party - is going to gain substantially in funding - and increase their effectiveness.
President Trump will almost certainly retain his base... But, National elections are never won by the base... they are won by the swing voters... and the swing voters are affected by political adds and commentary. The bulk of that money now appears to be headed to the "anti" President Trump and "anti" today's Republican Party.
For the record. I live in Wisconsin - where most people are not registered with either party - and elections are always won and lost by how the independent voters vote. In my heart I'm one of those independents. I have never registered with either party. When I was younger I leaned Democratic. In my 30's I leaned Republican and became very interested in the Limited Role of Government and Fiscal Responsibility. However, I always have voted for whom I believed was the best candidate - regardless of party.
To sum this up: President Trump is acting very badly for Business... Bad for Business is bad for jobs too... The Businesses are realizing that President Trump believes what he personally believes and cares not one iota about them. Make American Great Again may have been a great slogan. Bankrupting business and causing massive job losses won't do that - and that is where the USA is headed with the trade war.
Business is leaving the Republican Party and starting to spend their money and influence to counteract President Trump and his supporters. Business (collectively) actually controls much of the purse strings in America.
I predict an interesting year or two ahead of us... for those of us who watch long term political developments.
These changes will not be instant (and I know many who want such instant changes)... But, I don't think there will actually be much of any Republican Party in 6 years if they stay with their current policies and beliefs.
Personally, I think the time is ripe for the rise of a 3rd National Party. Not sure it would happen. But, from an historical perspective there has never been a better time.
Have a great day,
Perry
However, the reality is that most elections are not won or lost by just vocal groups. They are won or lost based on money - and how that money is spent.
For many decades (if not over a century) the Republican Party mainly depended on Business for donations and other forms of support.
My personal opinion is that the Republican Party left me (or what part of me they once had): If you want to discuss conservative fiscal policy, the appropriate limited role of government, and many other true conservative policies (which do not include modern and historically strange religious views; and actually includes a much broader version of personal rights than the current Republican Party); I'm likely in for that (and I respect those who have other positions - and hope to find workable middle ground). It is also my personal opinion that President Trump - and the this years Republican Party represents none of that (in fact - they represent the opposite in many cases).
It's not just me: I have not met a business person (man or woman) in the last 3 months who is not looking where to better put their political contributions... and it's not going to the Republican National Party - or even the State Party in many cases...
I see a seismic shift in future political funding starting. I think for the good; because these people are almost always focusing on individual candidates - independent of party. They are even encouraging people to run for office (usually at the local level first - which they have rarely done before).
The result is that I believe that the Republican Party will not be able to run that effective of a campaign in 2020. A lot of other people - and even the Democratic Party - is going to gain substantially in funding - and increase their effectiveness.
President Trump will almost certainly retain his base... But, National elections are never won by the base... they are won by the swing voters... and the swing voters are affected by political adds and commentary. The bulk of that money now appears to be headed to the "anti" President Trump and "anti" today's Republican Party.
For the record. I live in Wisconsin - where most people are not registered with either party - and elections are always won and lost by how the independent voters vote. In my heart I'm one of those independents. I have never registered with either party. When I was younger I leaned Democratic. In my 30's I leaned Republican and became very interested in the Limited Role of Government and Fiscal Responsibility. However, I always have voted for whom I believed was the best candidate - regardless of party.
To sum this up: President Trump is acting very badly for Business... Bad for Business is bad for jobs too... The Businesses are realizing that President Trump believes what he personally believes and cares not one iota about them. Make American Great Again may have been a great slogan. Bankrupting business and causing massive job losses won't do that - and that is where the USA is headed with the trade war.
Business is leaving the Republican Party and starting to spend their money and influence to counteract President Trump and his supporters. Business (collectively) actually controls much of the purse strings in America.
I predict an interesting year or two ahead of us... for those of us who watch long term political developments.
These changes will not be instant (and I know many who want such instant changes)... But, I don't think there will actually be much of any Republican Party in 6 years if they stay with their current policies and beliefs.
Personally, I think the time is ripe for the rise of a 3rd National Party. Not sure it would happen. But, from an historical perspective there has never been a better time.
Have a great day,
Perry