Tell if diamond is milky or hazy from picture?

[emmebee]

Hi all,

I tried to read up in various threads here about the possibility of a diamond being milky or hazy when it an Si1 clarity grade with only twinning wisps. I think most users on this forum said that you couldn't tell if a diamond was hazy or cloudy from a picture alone, but I thought I would give it a shot. I am still waiting to hear back from the vendor as well.

Also, I know that under the table of this diamond looks dark as well, but for educational purposes, I am just asking about whether anyone can tell if this diamond is milky or hazy. I intrigued by the twinning wisps which are seen as good inclusions if they are eye-clean, but not if it causes the diamond to be milky or hazy.


Thank you!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

No, you cannot judge clarity issues just from a picture unless it is an obvious black inclusion, feather, etc. I'd ask if it is eye clean from the top and the sides. But I would not buy this particular stone without an ideal scope image because it may have leakage.

 

[emmebee]

Thanks, DS! I almost guarantee this stone has leakage given the steep/deep angles..

 

[emmebee]

I feel like sometimes I can tell when a diamond is hazy/milky on JA, but I think that is because you have the cloudy one right next to a clear one for comparison purposes.

 

[Lorelei]

Hi Emm,

That's something I would not be prepared to offer an opinion on, whether a stone showed negative effects from any inclusions or strong or very strong blue fluorescence. The only way to know is to ask an expert with the diamond in hand.

 

[WinkHPD]

Hi Emm,

That's something I would not be prepared to offer an opinion on, whether a stone showed negative effects from any inclusions or strong or very strong blue fluorescence. The only way to know is to ask an expert with the diamond in hand.

Once again, Lorelei nails it.

I have seen, and taken photos of diamonds that are gorgeous to the eye that look horrible in a video or photo.

When we look at the diamond with they eye we are normally looking at 1X power. (Some people will see at 1.5 X or even higher, but for them it is still 1X of their vision. When we photograph or video, it is rare that we are not seeing the diamond at many X depending on the set up. If I were to post a diamond at 1X, people would howl that I am trying to hide something. Heck, I would be right their howling with them.

The whole purpose of the photo or the video is to give you a close up and personal view of the diamond. This often accentuates the appearance and visibility of the inclusions in the diamond. This makes it impossible to judge the eye visibility of the inclusions and even more impossible to assess their affect on the sparkle of the diamond might be. We can get valuable information and perhaps get an idea of what the diamond might look like in real life, but the only way to know for sure is to see it with YOUR eyes. You may have vision that is better or worse than mine. That means that I can not tell you what YOU will see, but I can tell you what I think you might see if I am holding the diamond in my hand and trying to describe it over the phone.

Wink

 

[treasurehunter]

Depending on the quality of photo, level of milkiness and of course having a trained observer its possible
Attached stones were graded SI1 ! and SI2 !

 

[emmebee]

Thank you all for your opinions and wisdom.

Treasurehunter, pictures like those diamonds are exactly why I asked! The picture I posted doesn't look hazy compared to the two you posted, but maybe the photographs you posted were just out of focus, and whoever took the one I posted had photography skills to make it look clear?

 

[treasurehunter]

The photos were taken professionally with a microscope so no I looked from a supplier for milky stones due to clarity and are not out of focus, I couldn't find any Overblue or milky stones due to florescence but that depends alot on the lighting and how much UV the light has when taking the gem photograph , So I think with all florescent stones you need to see the stone in person and not rely on a photo or ask an expert to look at it .

 

[Lorelei]

Hi Emm,

That's something I would not be prepared to offer an opinion on, whether a stone showed negative effects from any inclusions or strong or very strong blue fluorescence. The only way to know is to ask an expert with the diamond in hand.

Once again, Lorelei nails it.

I have seen, and taken photos of diamonds that are gorgeous to the eye that look horrible in a video or photo.

When we look at the diamond with they eye we are normally looking at 1X power. (Some people will see at 1.5 X or even higher, but for them it is still 1X of their vision. When we photograph or video, it is rare that we are not seeing the diamond at many X depending on the set up. If I were to post a diamond at 1X, people would howl that I am trying to hide something. Heck, I would be right their howling with them.

The whole purpose of the photo or the video is to give you a close up and personal view of the diamond. This often accentuates the appearance and visibility of the inclusions in the diamond. This makes it impossible to judge the eye visibility of the inclusions and even more impossible to assess their affect on the sparkle of the diamond might be. We can get valuable information and perhaps get an idea of what the diamond might look like in real life, but the only way to know for sure is to see it with YOUR eyes. You may have vision that is better or worse than mine. That means that I can not tell you what YOU will see, but I can tell you what I think you might see if I am holding the diamond in my hand and trying to describe it over the phone.

Wink

Thanks Wink and thanks for the above, it's the safest way to go.