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  1. blahhhhh
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    by blahhhhh » Jun 24, 2019
    Has anyone else worried that their super ideal diamond is almost too sparkly that it looks fake?
     
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  2. Wink
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    by Wink » Jun 24, 2019
    Had one client ten or fifteen years ago who didn't like the diamonds I was showing her for exactly that reason.

    I would venture a guess that if you are not used to seeing a diamond look its best that you might have that concern, but as more and more clients get used to seeing incredible sparkle and fire, more and more cutters are going to be pulled, kicking and screaming no doubt, into the world of cutting diamonds to reveal the beauty rather than to conserve the weight.

    I am hoping that in a decade or three, it will be the relatively lifeless diamonds that will look fake.

    Wink
     
  3. lovedogs
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    by lovedogs » Jun 24, 2019
    I agree with @Wink (as usual). Extremely well cut diamonds definitely don't look fake or sparkle "too much", but they do tend to look bigger than their ct weight and whiter for their color next to less ideal cut stones.
     
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  4. MakingTheGrade
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    by MakingTheGrade » Jun 24, 2019
    I’ve had people assume my diamonds are fake because they look “too perfect”. Makes the concern that “people might be able to tell my cz/MMD/moissy isn’t real” even less significant since apparently some folk are also bad at identifying real well cut diamonds.
     
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  5. blahhhhh
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    by blahhhhh » Jun 24, 2019
    :lol: yes, makes me wonder if I should have gone moissy
     
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  6. MakingTheGrade
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    by MakingTheGrade » Jun 24, 2019
    Hehe. I just do both.
    My coworkers (many of whom own plenty of nice diamonds themselves) are about 50/50 when they try to pick out what is diamond and what is moissy. Granted it’s high quality moissy from AV that is as well cut as my diamonds. Still funny to me.
     
  7. hypermom
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    by hypermom » Jun 24, 2019
    Well, I don’t have mine yet, it’s coming soon. This may be something I need to worry about!
     
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  8. Dcrafty1
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    by Dcrafty1 » Jun 24, 2019
    Yes and a good friend implied such.

    Maybe that's why no one compliments me on my ring. They don't know a well cut diamond from a Moissy (or any other well cut stone).

    I love my ring and wouldn't change it for the world. The sparkle and FIRE is everything. Thanks PS, I would have been one of the ones thinking that ring cant be real
     
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  9. TreeScientist
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    by TreeScientist » Jun 24, 2019
    My fiancée had the "Is it... fake?" question posed once by a close friend (one who meant no malice by the question, but was just genuinely curious). After telling the friend that yes, it is indeed real, the friend replied something along the lines of "I didn't know diamonds could sparkle like that..."

    The "Sparkles too much-->must be fake" mentality is the result of two consumer trends in recent decades:

    a.) As clean material becomes harder to find, you "average" diamond at maul stores has become more included (aka frozen spit).

    b.) Moissy has flooded the market. Moissy is more sparkly (higher refractive index) than diamond and is generally much cleaner than the "average" maul store diamond.

    Since many people have never seen anything other than poorly cut, heavily included maul store diamonds, they assume that diamonds are rather dull and lifeless in everyday lighting scenarios, only sparkling under the jewelry store lights. In many cases, the only stones that they've seen that have any sort of "life" to them in everyday lighting environments are moissies. So when they see a diamond that is relatively clean (not cloudy frozen spit), well cut and full of life, they assume it's a moissy.


    But who cares if it "looks fake" to the average joe. Wear the diamond to make yourself happy. And if people ask, then you can educate them about how a high quality diamond is supposed to look. :)
     
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  10. MissGotRocks
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    by MissGotRocks » Jun 24, 2019
    No such thing as too much sparkle - I love every one of them!!
     
    


    


  11. PintoBean
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    by PintoBean » Jun 24, 2019
    Just dont clean it.:whistle:
     
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  12. junebug17
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    by junebug17 » Jun 24, 2019
    I had the same thought @PintoBean! :P2
     
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  13. Dmndsr4evr11
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    by Dmndsr4evr11 » Jun 24, 2019
    Hahaha. I love clean and sparkly diamonds! I sometimes wonder what people think when I catch them looking if they think it’s fake as it sparkles too much or what? I wonder too if more people think it’s fake if it’s a very high colored diamond like D or E as it will be so white and so sparkly.
     
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  14. marcy
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    by marcy » Jun 24, 2019
    I don’t wear my jewelry for other people, I wear it for me and I want it to sparkle as much as possible.
     
  15. Tekate
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    by Tekate » Jun 24, 2019
    I've had 4 now and I'd say they don't look fake they look beautiful.
     
    


    


  16. iluvshinythings
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    by iluvshinythings » Jun 24, 2019
    I think A is why so many people think diamonds are a waste of money. Most of the diamonds I see in the wild are lifeless, dirty and full of inclusions. I even thought diamonds were dumb when I was given my first (which had zero sparkle and wasn't even transparent, but bless my husband's heart - we were broke college students).

    I overheard a couple of people talking about whether my diamond was "one of those moissanites they've heard about".

    I was amused and very happy that my diamond is so nice it looks fake. I'll take that as a compliment, but I give zero sh*ts what anyone thinks. :dance:
     
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  17. the_mother_thing
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    by the_mother_thing » Jun 24, 2019
    Ditto both of these comments; use it as an opportunity to educate people on what a well-cut diamond looks like (if they aren’t just being casual).
     
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  18. whitewave
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    by whitewave » Jun 24, 2019
    Nope lol.
     
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  19. hypermom
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    by hypermom » Jun 24, 2019
    Yesterday I wore my super ideal tennis bracelet on my left hand with my 14.99 cz Nordstrom rack bridal set (still waiting on my upgrade btw). My husband looks at my hand and says
    Those rings don’t even sparkle next to that bracelet!
    He correctly surmised the bracelet was real and the rings weren’t.
     
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  20. Daisys and Diamonds
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    by Daisys and Diamonds » Jun 25, 2019
    who cares what other's think
    who's finger is it on anyway !
    sparkle away and sparkle to the max !
     
  21. scarsmum
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    by scarsmum » Jun 25, 2019
    Having a quiet laugh. I think “my diamond is too sparkly” has got to be the definition of a first world problem.
     
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  22. LLJsmom
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    by LLJsmom » Jun 25, 2019
    If that’s what people will think, then ABSO-F***ING-LUTELY!!!

    Seriously I don’t give a rat’s a$$ what people think. I’ll take that kinda fake anyday. :mrgreen2:
     
  23. Dancing Fire
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    by Dancing Fire » Jun 25, 2019
    Funny, My friend Rachel whom bought a 1.75ct CBI from you just returned from China visiting friends and relatives. She said none of them believed her diamond is real. They all say.. real diamonds don't sparkle like that...:lol:
     
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  24. kayla17
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    by kayla17 » Jun 25, 2019
    In my experience very well cut diamonds are super sparkly but look dark in certain lighting. When I just received my ring last year, a Co worker of mine also had just gotten engaged. She showed me her ring and I showed her my ring and her ring looked so “white” compared to mine. It wasn’t more sparkly (actually it didn’t sparkle at all) but it actually looked cloudy or maybe even dirty and just whiter. My diamond looked really dark( almost black) and all you could see was sparkle. It was low light conditions so I don’t know if that was the reason why it looked like that. It was strange and I was almost embarrassed bc it looked like a black hole of sparkle. It just didn’t look real.
     
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  25. OoohShiny
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    by OoohShiny » Jun 25, 2019
    Until one has seen a SuperIdeal, it is hard to know how they perform!

    Diamonds looking 'white' but not sparkly seems typical of 'maul' store stones - too many inclusions to let the light pass through and come out as white light and coloured fire, the inclusions instead just lighting up and absorbing the light!
     
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  26. blahhhhh
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    by blahhhhh » Jun 26, 2019
    I have been enjoying the different looks across different lighting... I find that it glows the most in shady indirect light, so I guess I should do more bush walking :dance:
     
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  27. luv2sparkle
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    by luv2sparkle » Jun 26, 2019
    I would think just the opposite, I think the fake stuff looks dull. I have never seen a Moissanite that I liked. I would take the super sparkly real stuff any day of the week.
     

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