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I got as far as "by Pill Popper" and stopped reading.
 
Stepping out of Stepford briefly to say that these people on here will not read anything that the evil Rush Limbaugh has to say.
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Going back to Stepford now.........
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After Russ Limbaugh''s comments about Elizabeth Edward''s, I think he is a narcissitic mysogynist. He''s a nationally syndicated buffoon
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And I thought I was wasting my time comparing swim goggles. Makes me look like Albert Einstein.
 
He''s a buffoon with 20M listeners and a new $400M contract, so your opinion appears to be of little value.
 
Date: 1/30/2009 11:40:03 AM
Author: tradergirl
He''s a buffoon with 20M listeners and a new $400M contract, so your opinion appears to be of little value.
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He''s a paid entertainer. $400M could make me "crazy for pay" in the blink of an eye. The scary part? His listeners take his drivel as gospel.

I wonder how many people share a negative opinion of him- I''d bet more than 20 million.
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There''s a handful of people who hang out here who might actually take the time to read your link.

The other''s are not interested in anyone''s opinion unless it reinforces their own.

To be open to differing points of view (without preconceived notions) is the definition of a person secure in their own worldview.

Some buffoon! He''s even managed to rankle the new president
 
So none of you libs are for releasing some of the burdens on business to provide incentive to invest and grow? But you all are against layoffs, right?


Rush has it right when he says all that the stimulus "stimulates" are the yes men and women with their hands out. It's a smart move by the dems in order to consolidate their power base. BHO is proving very adept at this. In fact, a crappy economy is in his best interest - for a while - so keep the pork a-commin'! I got my hand out too, fill it up! $2000 a kid would be a nice start (I have four children). Maybe a payment holiday or two for my house note. Oh, and my son wants a big flat screen TV while yer at it. Thanks.
 
Date: 1/30/2009 12:34:40 PM
Author: beebrisk
There''s a handful of people who hang out here who might actually take the time to read your link.

The other''s are not interested in anyone''s opinion unless it reinforces their own.

To be open to differing points of view (without preconceived notions) is the definition of a person secure in their own worldview.

Some buffoon! He''s even managed to rankle the new president
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Not true, at least with me.

If the man portrayed his thoughts in a responsible, thoughtful, respectful fashion, more people would listen. But when you spew out that you want the president to fail, which means WE fail, what do you expect? I''m asking sincerely.
 
Date: 1/30/2009 11:40:03 AM
Author: tradergirl
He''s a buffoon with 20M listeners and a new $400M contract, so your opinion appears to be of little value.
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By this logic I guess we should cleave to Howard Stern''s political ideology too?
 
Date: 1/30/2009 12:45:13 PM
Author: decodelighted

Date: 1/30/2009 11:40:03 AM
Author: tradergirl
He''s a buffoon with 20M listeners and a new $400M contract, so your opinion appears to be of little value.
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By this logic I guess we should cleave to Howard Stern''s political ideology too?
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Frankly, I prefer Brad Pitt.
 
Date: 1/30/2009 12:41:18 PM
Author: Ellen
Date: 1/30/2009 12:34:40 PM

Author: beebrisk

There's a handful of people who hang out here who might actually take the time to read your link.


The other's are not interested in anyone's opinion unless it reinforces their own.


To be open to differing points of view (without preconceived notions) is the definition of a person secure in their own worldview.


Some buffoon! He's even managed to rankle the new president
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Not true, at least with me.


If the man portrayed his thoughts in a responsible, thoughtful, respectful fashion, more people would listen. But when you spew out that you want the president to fail, which means WE fail, what do you expect? I'm asking sincerely.
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And sincerely I am asking that the "fail" comments are taken in context.

What he said was that he hopes Obama's proposed socialistic and redistributive policies fail. He said if this is the direction the president is moving towards, then yes, he hopes he fails. He hopes he fails at bringing these changes because he's of the opinion (as I am) that they are not in our best interest. Would you want a political and ideological philosophy to succeed if you believed it was detrimental to the country?? If you vehemently disagreed with the president's policies, would you want him to succeed? Quite the opposite I think.
 
Date: 1/30/2009 1:18:51 PM
Author: beebrisk


And sincerely I am asking that the 'fail' comments are taken in context.

What he said was that he hopes Obama's proposed socialistic and redistributive policies fail. He said if this is the direction the president is moving towards, then yes, he hopes he fails. He hopes he fails at bringing these changes because he's of the opinion (as I am) that they are not in our best interest. Would you want a political and ideological philosophy to succeed if you believed it was detrimental to the country?? If you vehemently disagreed with the president's policies, would you want him to succeed? Quite the opposite I think.
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Probably not (but not at the detriment of a whole nation), but I would disagree openly in a fashion that might make people actually listen. Rush doesn't know how to do that.
 
why would i read and/or listen to anything that self-medicating drug addict has written and/or said? recovery?! i''m not so sure.....recidivism being what it is with drug addicts.

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Date: 1/30/2009 1:47:50 PM
Author: Ellen
Date: 1/30/2009 1:18:51 PM

Author: beebrisk



And sincerely I am asking that the 'fail' comments are taken in context.


What he said was that he hopes Obama's proposed socialistic and redistributive policies fail. He said if this is the direction the president is moving towards, then yes, he hopes he fails. He hopes he fails at bringing these changes because he's of the opinion (as I am) that they are not in our best interest. Would you want a political and ideological philosophy to succeed if you believed it was detrimental to the country?? If you vehemently disagreed with the president's policies, would you want him to succeed? Quite the opposite I think.
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Probably not (but not at the detriment of a whole nation), but I would disagree openly in a fashion that might make people actually listen. Rush doesn't know how to do that.
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But the point is, he doesn't feel Obama's "failures" of policy WOULD be at the detriment to the nation.

Not trying to be snarky. Really. But he DOES get people to listen...Including the president!
I don't know the figures, but I'm sure he's in the top 2 or 3 of the ratings. Now, does he get those on the opposite end of the spectrum to listen? I don't know.
 
Date: 1/30/2009 11:40:03 AM
Author: tradergirl
He's a buffoon with 20M listeners and a new $400M contract, so your opinion appears to be of little value.
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Tradergirl, 20M listeners and $400M doesn't makes his opinion any more or less valid than any other intelligent person. I recall awhile back people were furious with Oprah [and her money] sharing her opinions. I'm sure Larry Flint probably has lots of money and similar readership...

I do not endorse Rush, nor his methodology, which is akin to the bright kids sitting in the back of the classroom making smart but unecessarily cruel "observations" about anything and everything, but rarely adding anything of value to the conversation. A man with his intelligence (and yes, as much as I despise the man, I concede he is smart) who does not do anything but stir the pot (which is what it seems he does) does not deserve my respect. That is my opinion. I would venture a guess 20M other people agree with me. (Which leaves, what, 300 million other Americans who either don't care or who have to fill their time with other things, like looking for work?)

I find that kind of spewing, on both sides, toxic. Ugly. Counterproductive. Attention-seeking. If "the other side" is never never never going to be right (and my admittedly limited exposure to Rush gives me that opinion), what's the point in his radio show other than to point fingers? What is he doing to make this country better? How is he pushing forward the discussion? Is there discussion or is there yessing and muckraking?

It appears now that cynicism and pot shots are all we are capable of in this country. Intelligent dialog, problem solving, respectful conflict? Seemingly impossible. I read the John Adams biography awhile ago and was struck by the civility, by the ATTEMPTS at civility for the greater good. Not to say that colonial politics didn't have its dirty moments, but the glee in policy/political failure didn't seem to be there. Admittedly, I haven't studied Colonial Era Politics in a long time, so I am willing to be thumped on that account.

If Rush runs for office, I will listen to what he has to say, as at least then it will seem that he will be presenting himself as part of the solution.

Just my .02 (which is about my salary)
 
Date: 1/30/2009 2:03:06 PM
Author: jas
Date: 1/30/2009 11:40:03 AM

Author: tradergirl

He's a buffoon with 20M listeners and a new $400M contract, so your opinion appears to be of little value.
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Tradergirl, 20M listeners and $400M doesn't makes his opinion any more or less valid than any other intelligent person. I recall awhile back people were furious with Oprah [and her money] sharing her opinions. I'm sure Larry Flint probably has lots of money and similar readership...


I do not endorse Rush, nor his methodology, which is akin to the bright kids sitting in the back of the classroom making smart but unecessarily cruel 'observations' about anything and everything, but rarely adding anything of value to the conversation. A man with his intelligence (and yes, as much as I despise the man, I concede he is smart) who does not do anything but stir the pot (which is what it seems he does) does not deserve my respect. That is my opinion. I would venture a guess 20M other people agree with me. (Which leaves, what, 300 million other Americans who either don't care or who have to fill their time with other things, like looking for work?)


I find that kind of spewing, on both sides, toxic. Ugly. Counterproductive. Attention-seeking. If 'the other side' is never never never going to be right (and my admittedly limited exposure to Rush gives me that opinion), what's the point in his radio show other than to point fingers? What is he doing to make this country better? How is he pushing forward the discussion? Is there discussion or is there yessing and muckraking?


It appears now that cynicism and pot shots are all we are capable of in this country. Intelligent dialog, problem solving, respectful conflict? Seemingly impossible. I read the John Adams biography awhile ago and was struck by the civility, by the ATTEMPTS at civility for the greater good. Not to say that colonial politics didn't have its dirty moments, but the glee in policy/political failure didn't seem to be there. Admittedly, I haven't studied Colonial Era Politics in a long time, so I am willing to be thumped on that account.


If Rush runs for office, I will listen to what he has to say, as at least then it will seem that he will be presenting himself as part of the solution.


Just my .02 (which is about my salary)
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Limbaugh is not a politician or a journalist, he's a radio personality. Mainly he preaches to the converted. I don't think he has a big liberal listenership, but I could be wrong. Lots of us like to listen to both sides.

So, his whole "schtick" is to engage--something he does in an admittedly abrasive way that's offensive and maddening to some. He's really no different than a guy like Bill Maher for instance. Bill doesn't mince words and isn't afraid of offending anyone. Granted, he doesn't get the backlash for the stuff he says because he has a smaller viewership. More to the point though, he's mostly immune to media criticism because he's a liberal.

By the way, although staunchly conservative I am a "religious" viewer of "Real Time". I wonder if that would piss Bill off??
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Date: 1/30/2009 2:00:03 PM
Author: beebrisk

But the point is, he doesn''t feel Obama''s ''failures'' of policy WOULD be at the detriment to the nation.

Not trying to be snarky. Really. But he DOES get people to listen...Including the president!
I don''t know the figures, but I''m sure he''s in the top 2 or 3 of the ratings. Now, does he get those on the opposite end of the spectrum to listen? I don''t know.
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Ok, how would that work exactly bee?
 
Date: 1/30/2009 2:23:34 PM
Author: beebrisk


Limbaugh is not a politician or a journalist, he''s a radio personality. Mainly he preaches to the converted. I don''t think he has a big liberal listenership, but I could be wrong. Lots of us like to listen to both sides.

So, his whole ''schtick'' is to engage--something he does in an admittedly abrasive way that''s offensive and maddening to some. He''s really no different than a guy like Bill Maher for instance. Bill doesn''t mince words and isn''t afraid of offending anyone. Granted, he doesn''t get the backlash for the stuff he says because he has a smaller viewership. More to the point though, he''s mostly immune to media criticism because he''s a liberal.

By the way, although staunchly conservative I am a ''religious'' viewer of ''Real Time''. I wonder if that would piss Bill off??
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Maybe if Rush were funnier I could take him seriously.
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Out of curiosity, are you familiar with the Myth of the Liberal Media?
 
Date: 1/30/2009 2:26:01 PM
Author: Ellen
Date: 1/30/2009 2:00:03 PM

Author: beebrisk


But the point is, he doesn''t feel Obama''s ''failures'' of policy WOULD be at the detriment to the nation.


Not trying to be snarky. Really. But he DOES get people to listen...Including the president!

I don''t know the figures, but I''m sure he''s in the top 2 or 3 of the ratings. Now, does he get those on the opposite end of the spectrum to listen? I don''t know.
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Ok, how would that work exactly bee?
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Because he feels the "failure" of a liberal agenda is to the "benefit" of the country...not to it''s detriiment.

"Success" and "failure" can be quite subjective.
 
Date: 1/30/2009 2:29:39 PM
Author: jas
Date: 1/30/2009 2:23:34 PM

Author: beebrisk



Limbaugh is not a politician or a journalist, he''s a radio personality. Mainly he preaches to the converted. I don''t think he has a big liberal listenership, but I could be wrong. Lots of us like to listen to both sides.


So, his whole ''schtick'' is to engage--something he does in an admittedly abrasive way that''s offensive and maddening to some. He''s really no different than a guy like Bill Maher for instance. Bill doesn''t mince words and isn''t afraid of offending anyone. Granted, he doesn''t get the backlash for the stuff he says because he has a smaller viewership. More to the point though, he''s mostly immune to media criticism because he''s a liberal.


By the way, although staunchly conservative I am a ''religious'' viewer of ''Real Time''. I wonder if that would piss Bill off??
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Maybe if Rush were funnier I could take him seriously.
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Out of curiosity, are you familiar with the Myth of the Liberal Media?
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Yup. And I find Chomsky''s arguments (regarding this subject and others) for the most part, unimpressive and dishonest.
I have very serious issues with his philosophy and conclusions about this country, the media and our foreign policy. Personally, I think he''s nuts.
 
Interesting. Thanks for posting it!
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Date: 1/30/2009 2:32:10 PM
Author: beebrisk

Date: 1/30/2009 2:26:01 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/30/2009 2:00:03 PM

Author: beebrisk


But the point is, he doesn''t feel Obama''s ''failures'' of policy WOULD be at the detriment to the nation.


Not trying to be snarky. Really. But he DOES get people to listen...Including the president!

I don''t know the figures, but I''m sure he''s in the top 2 or 3 of the ratings. Now, does he get those on the opposite end of the spectrum to listen? I don''t know.
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Ok, how would that work exactly bee?
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Because he feels the ''failure'' of a liberal agenda is to the ''benefit'' of the country...not to it''s detriiment.

''Success'' and ''failure'' can be quite subjective.
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Yeah, I know. But I wanted you to actually explain to me the scenario after what Obama tries fails, and we''re in just as bad, if not worse shape. I wanted you to tell me how we''d be better off.
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The truth is, just because Rush believes that, it doesn''t make it so.
 
Date: 1/30/2009 3:35:53 PM
Author: Ellen
Date: 1/30/2009 2:32:10 PM

Author: beebrisk


Date: 1/30/2009 2:26:01 PM

Author: Ellen


Date: 1/30/2009 2:00:03 PM


Author: beebrisk



But the point is, he doesn't feel Obama's 'failures' of policy WOULD be at the detriment to the nation.



Not trying to be snarky. Really. But he DOES get people to listen...Including the president!


I don't know the figures, but I'm sure he's in the top 2 or 3 of the ratings. Now, does he get those on the opposite end of the spectrum to listen? I don't know.
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Ok, how would that work exactly bee?
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Because he feels the 'failure' of a liberal agenda is to the 'benefit' of the country...not to it's detriiment.


'Success' and 'failure' can be quite subjective.
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Yeah, I know. But I wanted you to actually explain to me the scenario after what Obama tries fails, and we're in just as bad, if not worse shape. I wanted you to tell me how we'd be better off.
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The truth is, just because Rush believes that, it doesn't make it so.
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Never said "just because Rush believes that" it's so. Nor did I imply that.

But I'm not sure how I can be more clear about his intent with regards to the word "fail".

I know it's hard for some to believe, but there are many who think that if the programs that "Obama tries" (further socializing of banks and businesses, socialized medicine, Fairness Doctrine, etc..) succeed we will in fact, be WORSE off...not better off.
 
One of his highest profile liberal fans is Camille Paglia. Really. Look it up.
 
I suppose there is a big difference to me between "I believe it will fail" and "I hope it will fail." Also, again my secure-in-my-worldview-opinion is that Obama is not looking for a change in American ideology or philosophy with this.
 
Date: 1/30/2009 5:34:23 PM
Author: beebrisk


Never said ''just because Rush believes that'' it''s so. Nor did I imply that.

But I''m not sure how I can be more clear about his intent with regards to the word ''fail''.

I know it''s hard for some to believe, but there are many who think that if the programs that ''Obama tries'' (further socializing of banks and businesses, socialized medicine, Fairness Doctrine, etc..) succeed we will in fact, be WORSE off...not better off.
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I know what you''re saying, I just can''t find the words to convey what I''m saying. We will have to give up on this one.
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