Southern California Manhunt

[VRBeauty]

I feel for Christopher Dorner's mother. Right now she's living with the virtual certainty that her son will never see her son alive again - that whenever he emerges, he will be shot on sight. I don't mean to minimize in any way way the fact that Dorner murdered three people or the pain he caused their families. It's just that I can't imagine what she's going through right now.

 

[sonnyjane]

Well, whether or not she sees her son alive or not again is entirely up to her son. If he is still out there and is located, there is certainly NOT a guarantee that he will be shot immediately. If possible, they will apprehend him and give him due process. IF, however, her son decides that instead of peacefully surrendering when found he would prefer to either claim his own life or attempt to shoot at police, THEN the police will follow protocol and shoot him if necessary.

 

[Amber St. Clare]

All I can think of is--what if he decides to take out a school? Cops are focusing on his anger twards fellow officers--what if he decided to attack a school because the focus is on the police and their family? The guy is so crazy anything could happen.........

 

[nkarma]

I hope they find him very soon!

One thing that does not seem to be talked about as much is that cops started shooting without any warning at a car they "thought" looked like the suspect's car. They shot two women without even stopping or asking for identification cause they were scared. One was 70 years old!

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16888732-women-shot-by-cops-were-just-delivering-papers?lite

 

[Gypsy]

I hope they find him very soon!

One thing that does not seem to be talked about as much is that cops started shooting without any warning at a car they "thought" looked like the suspect's car. They shot two women without even stopping or asking for identification cause they were scared. One was 70 years old!

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16888732-women-shot-by-cops-were-just-delivering-papers?lite

Okay so... I get not stopping to ask for ID. If it was the suspect, they would have been dead if they had done so. But a "this is the police, we have guns on you, stop the car and step out or we will shoot" with a blowhorn certainly wouldn't have been remiss.

 

[VapidLapid]

what if he really was telling the truth all those years ago and all the people in authority not only let him down but penalized him for it? That combined with the years of being hounded by that on his record, the injustice from the justice system that he proudly served in, wow that could be enough to make a good person snap if they don't have a superhuman support group. In NO WAY am I defending or excusing or condoning his actions. His choices after that fact are his own. But I do wonder sometimes how many paranoid schizophrenics or whatever they are sold as to the public, weren't justified in their paranoia like mel gibson in Conspiracy Theory.

 

[ksinger]

And just think how MUCH better that outcome would have been if EVERYBODY on that street had an nice AK in the house...yanno...for home defense.

I'm thinking that blowing a hail of bullets into the houses/garages/roofs and trees of those you are supposed to be protecting, not to mention the two poor women in the truck, isn't going to look good on a resume, and is going to result in some massive lawsuits above and beyond the damages, which sound pretty hefty. I hope they get the guy, but they're not going about it very well so far.

 

[MissGotRocks]

Whether or not there is truth to his story, his actions have cemented the decisions made by his superiors. It was determined that he was not a good fit for the role of a police officer and the public at large will certainly agree with this in light of his actions. This may not have been an outcome he considered when planning his retribution against his enemies.

It is always so disturbing for innocent people to lose their lives when one person has decided theirs is no longer worth living. Not only will his mother have to deal with the loss of his life but she will have to live with the legacy of the carnage that he has left behind. Tragic.

 

[justginger]

I haven't read up on this yet, but will do so now. One of my workmates with close proximity to the radio shouted out to me yesterday, "There's been another shooting in the States!" and I just sighed. These "isolated" crazies with guns aren't feeling particularly isolated anymore.

 

[justginger]

I hope they find him very soon!

One thing that does not seem to be talked about as much is that cops started shooting without any warning at a car they "thought" looked like the suspect's car. They shot two women without even stopping or asking for identification cause they were scared. One was 70 years old!

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16888732-women-shot-by-cops-were-just-delivering-papers?lite

Jeez Louise, are you kidding me?! There's no way this was following protocol. If a man can be fired for an inappropriate tweet, these officers deserve to lose their jobs. It is only luck these women were not killed.

 

[sonnyjane]

I hope they find him very soon!

One thing that does not seem to be talked about as much is that cops started shooting without any warning at a car they "thought" looked like the suspect's car. They shot two women without even stopping or asking for identification cause they were scared. One was 70 years old!

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16888732-women-shot-by-cops-were-just-delivering-papers?lite

Jeez Louise, are you kidding me?! There's no way this was following protocol. If a man can be fired for an inappropriate tweet, these officers deserve to lose their jobs. It is only luck these women were not killed.

Huge settlement hopefully coming their way and I can't imagine what would have happened if they were killed instead of wounded.

 

[luv2sparkle]

Torrance PD is in for a couple big settlements. I am sure those ladies had quite a few lawyers courting for their business. This manhunt is not too far from where we live. My DH is a firefighter and they are wearing kevlar vests and ordered not to spend too much time out of the stations if they don't have to (except for calls, of course). I will be glad when he is caught. I am hoping that he will be taken into custody without killing him or bystanders. It does seem that the likelihood is not too high.

 

[FrekeChild]

I think he's smart. I think he's been wronged. I think the LAPD is pretty dang corrupt. I think he's going about getting his message out in entirely the wrong way.

I find him fascinating. Scary, but still fascinating.

He's going to use all of his training against them, so I don't think this is going to be over very quickly unless they get lucky and he gets unlucky. I'm guessing that he was long gone from his truck if he was ever actually there with his truck.

And what idiot cops shot up that blue truck with those ladies?! Hellllllllooooo lawsuits!!!!!

 

[sonnyjane]

Here's more details on the accidental shootings. Wow! http://touch.latimes.com/#section/718/article/p2p-74351492/

 

[FrekeChild]

Here's more details on the accidental shootings. Wow! http://touch.latimes.com/#section/718/article/p2p-74351492/

Soooo....even more lawsuits than I originally thought.

 

[Hospatogi]

The police have been focusing their hunt where his car was found but I wonder if its just a diversion. There is no sign of him at Big Bear and there is a possibility he could be anywhere by now . Certainly frightening for all the families he's threatened...

 

[KaeKae]

The police have been focusing their hunt where his car was found but I wonder if its just a diversion. There is no sign of him at Big Bear and there is a possibility he could be anywhere by now . Certainly frightening for all the families he's threatened...

I've been thinking about this possibility, too. When we first head about this, there was some comments that he has ties to our town because he went to school at our local university. We're also right off the freeway, making for easy access. Nothing we can do about this, but wait and see.

 

[CaprineSun]

You know what, with the length of the recession we have been in, the number of soldiers coming back into civilian jobs with PTSD untreated, and the long standing race relations we have had in this country (especially within the LAPD no doubt), I can't say I'm too shocked. I guess I can say, thinking about it now, I'm almost surprised (and thankful) it's taken this long for something like this to happen.

I mean, you hear of workplace revenge all the time-- like the guy in NY (I think) a few months ago who came back and shot the boss long after he had been fired. But this is on a WHOLE other level. And, like others have said, it's like a movie. This scenario has been played out in movies many times-- the 'good guy' feels wronged & backed against a corner; the good guy becomes the 'bad guy' for revenge for which he feels is justified, and the audience cheers him on. Only THIS time, it is real life, and not so entertainingly fun anymore.

Like someone said, it was really interesting to read his manifesto, He is obviously really smart and passionate about what has happened to him. He clearly thought long and hard about this for a very long time. But this is so WRONG what he is doing and almost illogical. He claims his main goal is to clear his name. That his name means everything. But how does killing the family members and people who were not directly involved clear his name or even get revenge? It does neither! He wasted his intelligence, skills, and passion for 'justice' by going about this crusade the way he did. He has sacrificed his soul for nothing. Maybe his claims are true, and maybe someone out there could have helped him, or maybe he could have found another way to spread the word. Yes, killing people certainly brings attention to his cause faster, but now the attention is diverted & all on the evil he is inflicting. His 'cause' will be buried under this evil.

I'm sure wherever he is right now, he is likely realizing that it wasn't worth it. But, it's too late, and as he stated, his life will be over soon. Every time I load yahoo or aol, I'm hoping to see that they killed him or something because it would mean the innocent killings (from BOTH sides) is over. I'm terrified of seeing, instead, that another innocent life was taken.

 

[VRBeauty]

The police have been focusing their hunt where his car was found but I wonder if its just a diversion. There is no sign of him at Big Bear and there is a possibility he could be anywhere by now . Certainly frightening for all the families he's threatened...

I read that the axle on his truck was broken - I think that would be a pretty hard thing to plan.

 

[VRBeauty]

The police have been focusing their hunt where his car was found but I wonder if its just a diversion. There is no sign of him at Big Bear and there is a possibility he could be anywhere by now . Certainly frightening for all the families he's threatened...

I read that the axle on his truck was broken - I think that would be a pretty hard thing to plan.

 

[qtiekiki]

They most certainly was not following protocol for shooting those two ladies. The police are on edge, and patrols are heavy in downtown LA.

 

[kenny]

I didn't read his "manifesto" and refuse to.
What he did, murder, makes me the opposite of curious about what he has to say.
I don't care about his back story; he is a murderer .... and for what, for a good cause? GMAB!
In fact, think the papers should not have published it.

Now, any American with some guns and a screw loose knows (s)he can use the media to publish their words, get famous, and go down in a barrage of bullets, blood, guts, and glory as the center of the nation's attention.
Even if he was 'wronged' so the frack what!!!
Zillions of people are wronged all the time.
Should my heart bleed for them too, or just the ones who get some guns and kill people to get our attention?
WTF!?!

Broadcasting this murder's words is as stupid and irresponsible as TV channels broadcasting car chases live.
Reporting attention-getting actions of ego-maniacs just encourages copy cat crimes by other narcissists.

There are times when there is a larger reason for NOT reporting some things, like the name of a rape victim or a child abuse victim.

 

[Loves Vintage]

Kenny, I agree with you, completely. The sad thing is, the only reason the media doesn't report the names of child abuse or rape victims is because there are laws prohibiting them from doing so. And, people wonder why we have so many laws in this country. Couldn't the media just behave reasonably on its own? Apparently not. One media outlet would report this psycho's "manifesto" and then the rest would lament at their loss for not having published it first.

 

[CaprineSun]

I think it would be a brilliant idea to create a law to prevent the media from publishing these things in situations like this!
He did post in on facebook first, however, which regular people could easily copy, but a law also forcing facebook to immediately remove it would help with some of that as well.

I can't believe he still isn't caught or killed yet. The cops are saying that the people (civilians) in Big Bear are armed, so maybe someone will see him & shoot him. I highly doubt that civilian will get any type of punishment for that. Despite what they say in the media, they want him dead on sight- and apparently, at whatever cost.

 

[FrekeChild]

The police have been focusing their hunt where his car was found but I wonder if its just a diversion. There is no sign of him at Big Bear and there is a possibility he could be anywhere by now . Certainly frightening for all the families he's threatened...

I read that the axle on his truck was broken - I think that would be a pretty hard thing to plan.

Who said that it was even him that drove it over there?

You have to realize that he's been trained by these people. He knows what their next move is. If I were him, I'd give someone my truck, and tell them to go have fun with it, and I'd go in the opposite direction. It's called a diversionary tactic. While the police are combing the mountains for this guy, he's probably no where near there. He knew that they'd follow the truck. How could he not?

 

[sonnyjane]

Looks like they have just announced a $1million reward for his capture.

I have a very different theory, one that could easily be proven wrong at any moment, but I wonder if he didn't take his own life already which is why they aren't finding any new evidence of his whereabouts. Just a thought.

 

[CaprineSun]

Looks like they have just announced a $1million reward for his capture.

I have a very different theory, one that could easily be proven wrong at any moment, but I wonder if he didn't take his own life already which is why they aren't finding any new evidence of his whereabouts. Just a thought.

Well I hope they find out very soon. They just shot at another innocent man looking for this guy! Thank God he wasn't hit. But this is getting ridiculous.

 

[sonnyjane]

Looks like they have just announced a $1million reward for his capture.

I have a very different theory, one that could easily be proven wrong at any moment, but I wonder if he didn't take his own life already which is why they aren't finding any new evidence of his whereabouts. Just a thought.

Well I hope they find out very soon. They just shot at another innocent man looking for this guy! Thank God he wasn't hit. But this is getting ridiculous.

Wow really? I'm going to look it up now!

 

[CaprineSun]

Looks like they have just announced a $1million reward for his capture.

I have a very different theory, one that could easily be proven wrong at any moment, but I wonder if he didn't take his own life already which is why they aren't finding any new evidence of his whereabouts. Just a thought.

Well I hope they find out very soon. They just shot at another innocent man looking for this guy! Thank God he wasn't hit. But this is getting ridiculous.

Wow really? I'm going to look it up now!

Link from the LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-torrance-shooting-20130210,0,3955268.story?track=rss

 

[VRBeauty]

Looks like they have just announced a $1million reward for his capture.

I have a very different theory, one that could easily be proven wrong at any moment, but I wonder if he didn't take his own life already which is why they aren't finding any new evidence of his whereabouts. Just a thought.

Well I hope they find out very soon. They just shot at another innocent man looking for this guy! Thank God he wasn't hit. But this is getting ridiculous.

Wow really? I'm going to look it up now!

Link from the LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-torrance-shooting-20130210,0,3955268.story?track=rss

Not "just" - this actually happened on Thursday not long after the women delivering papers were shot at, and it also involved the City of Torrance's police department.