She didn''t care!!

[MATTMAN]

I have a bit of a bone to pick. I spent a good 8 months worrying about getting the perfect ring for my girlfriend. I was concerned about all 4 c's and getting her something that she'd be sure to get compliments about. I finally found an .72 E colored diamond, had it set in platinum, and gave it to her a month ago. Her reaction was classic when I pulled out the GIA cert to show her the diamond's characteristics. She said quote, "I don't care about all of that stuff. All I care about is that it's pretty." Lesson learned. If she really loves you and it's given from the heart, than that's all that matters.

 

[limey]

Congrats ...ask her in a year or ten when her best friends have 2 ct dazzlers! I lucked out with my gf, but making it up for our 10th anniv!

 

[sumi]

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On 4/6/2004 8:28:17 PM MATTMAN wrote:

Her reaction was classic when I pulled out the GIA cert to show her the diamond's characterists. She said quote, 'I don't care about all of that stuff. All I care about is that it's pretty.'

Well, in a sense she really does care about all the stuff on the cert. It wouldn't be pretty unless you had done a great job choosing a winning stone. So, in an indirect way she DOES care and all the work you put in your selection does matter.


congrats on the engagement!

 

[hoorray]

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On 4/6/2004 9:15:06 PM sumi wrote:

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On 4/6/2004 8:28:17 PM MATTMAN wrote:

Her reaction was classic when I pulled out the GIA cert to show her the diamond's characterists. She said quote, 'I don't care about all of that stuff. All I care about is that it's pretty.'

Well, in a sense she really does care about all the stuff on the cert. It wouldn't be pretty unless you had done a great job choosing a winning stone. So, in an indirect way she DOES care and all the work you put in your selection does matter.

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Exactly! It's not the specs that matter, it's the end result of those specs. Frozen spit isn't nearly as pretty

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Congratulations. Mattman!

 

[MATTMAN]

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On 4/6/2004 9:51:46 PM lop wrote:

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On 4/6/2004 9:15:06 PM sumi wrote:

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On 4/6/2004 8:28:17 PM MATTMAN wrote:

Her reaction was classic when I pulled out the GIA cert to show her the diamond's characterists. She said quote, 'I don't care about all of that stuff. All I care about is that it's pretty.'

Well, in a sense she really does care about all the stuff on the cert. It wouldn't be pretty unless you had done a great job choosing a winning stone. So, in an indirect way she DOES care and all the work you put in your selection does matter.

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Exactly! It's not the specs that matter, it's the end result of those specs. Frozen spit isn't nearly as pretty

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True true true. How she likes the diamond is all that's important...not what's on some certificate. That's my point.

 

[hoorray]

good, good, good.

As long as you really don't mean that all that work and attention you spent getting her what turned out to be a beautiful stone, doesn't matter! it does matter, and I'm sure she loves it because you did a great job (ie pretty stone), and you worked hard to make sure it was great!

 

[MATTMAN]

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On 4/6/2004 10:52:22 PM lop wrote:

good, good, good.

As long as you really don't mean that all that work and attention you spent getting her what turned out to be a beautiful stone, doesn't matter! it does matter, and I'm sure she loves it because you did a great job (ie pretty stone), and you worked hard to make sure it was great! ----------------

Nope, all I meant is that a happy marriage is based on more than a beautiful diamond. I'm glad she liked the ring, and I wouldn't have put any less effort into getting her something spectacular. But when it's all said and done, the fact that she loves me and I love her is all that matters.

 

[sparklyandsquare]

Congrats! And it sounds like she probably won't care what her friends have in ten years either because she got you!

 

[Nicrez]

Not everyone has the same priorities! I adore quality and gems, so for me that's a big thing. I didn't mind a smaller size, but a higher color. To me, this ring will be passed down, and I want to have something of quality to say this is Mommy's ring a ___ color, ____clarity.

Just like someone telling me that so-and-so won some world series...I would yawn. My friend would probably cheer herself stupid. I helped my guy pick out the rock and TRUST ME, I am DAMNED PROUD of my stone, and even have a picture of it as a screensaver. Again, everyone has different priorities.

So congrats to you and your wife-to-be, and may you both enjoy the hard work and effort you put into finding that lovely lovely stone!!!

 

[limey]

I want to clarify what I meant when I said "...ask her in a year or ten when her best friends have 2 ct dazzlers!"

My wife has never asked for a trade up, never expected a trade up and sbsolutely loves her existing ring. We got engaged when I was in college in 1993, there was no PS back then, in fact the graphical web browser was not even mainstream! We got married ahead of my career, and perhaps younger than we probably would have because I am a foreigner. We then waited 4 years before having kids, kind of an after-the-fact engagement to make sure we weren't rushing etc.

Over the past 10 years DeBeers has marketed diamonds very well and accordingly my wife's diamond is alot smaller than almost everyone we know, or other mom's that drop their kids off at school, other people's you see in stores etc.... and unfortunately it does represent a measure of ones success and standing. I perhaps feel it more so than my wife, she is very down to earth and doesn't really care what people think, especially snooty women. There was one comment made a few weeks ago that I got a kick out of, one of her best friends just got engaged for the third time, it will be her second marriage IF it pans out (!!). Each subsequent ring has been better/bigger and she is not only trading up rings but the men. In our case we have stuck the course, we have grown together, gone thru ups and downs, and she said that she has not had to trade up to get the husband she always hoped for.

I am posting all this because I probably came across a bit harsh with my comment when I really meant it in jest. The persepctive I have now is one of, OK, my wife loves her ring, it means alot to her... and since I love her more now I am going to do something special for her for our 10th anniversary. I am incorporating the old pear in the design and hopefully it will all turn out beautifully and she will say....

"I don't care about all of that (statistic) stuff. All I care about is that it's pretty."

cheers, and best of luck
Andrew

 

[hoorray]

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On 4/6/2004 11:16:16 PM MATTMAN wrote:

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Nope, all I meant is that a happy marriage is based on more than a beautiful diamond. I'm glad she liked the ring, and I wouldn't have put any less effort into getting her something spectacular. But when it's all said and done, the fact that she loves me and I love her is all that matters.----------------

Agreed. Sounds as if you are starting this next life step the right way. Congratulations!

 

[Nicrez]

Everyone agrees that the material is never what is important. As a matter of fact, there are many times where we could spend a lot more on frivolous things, but we don't. Money is a commodity, not a substitute for emotions or relationships.

However, how we use our money shows a little about who we are. If we donate to charities, if we spend on loved ones, if we hoard money. It all goes into deeper issues.

Mattman, I am very glad your wife-to-be was happy with how pretty her stone is. She should be happy with the effort you put in, as it came to her out of love and a real effort to make things just perfect for her. But there will always be cases of people who favor to spend their money on one thing or another.

I'd rather drive a crappier car than trade in my rock. BUT, I'd rather have my kids go to a better college than have my rock. If I can do both, then YAY!!! To each his own, and may your wife-to-be enjoy her lovely new rock and the love you two share!!

 

[fire&ice]

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On 4/7/2004 11:10:26 AM andr3wpd wrote:

There was one comment made a few weeks ago that I got a kick out of, one of her best friends just got engaged for the third time, it will be her second marriage IF it pans out (!!). Each subsequent ring has been better/bigger and she is not only trading up rings but the men. -

There is a case for going IF clarity. Are the men bigger & better as well?

Yeah, we all know people like that. But, I have to say it's the person, not the diamond or ring. Though, the ring may symbolize her "fantasy" of marriage. If you have been married for 10 years, you know the "fantasy" & the "reality" of marriage are two separate entities.

Mattmatt - I would love to say that she doesn't care about the ring & it's all about you. In the end, it is. But, I have said this *MANY* time before. Women tend to care *much* less about what's on the paper specs; and care *much* more about the actual reality (prettiness) of the ring. Men seem to get lost in the paper aspects of a stone. Women just want results.

 

[sumi]

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On 4/7/2004 11:45:49 AM fire&ice wrote:

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On 4/7/2004 11:10:26 AM andr3wpd wrote:



Mattmatt - I would love to say that she doesn't care about the ring & it's all about you. In the end, it is. But, I have said this *MANY* time before. Women tend to care *much* less about what's on the paper specs; and care *much* more about the actual reality (prettiness) of the ring. Men seem to get lost in the paper aspects of a stone. Women just want results.
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I guess I'm the exception to that rule. I think the 'science' behind the beauty of a diamond is totally fascinating. To this day, I still pull out my cert and check out the specs of my stone every so often.

 

[maristidou]

I have to agree with sumi. I am a female and I want to know everything about the stone. It's research research research for me.

My fiance however is the total opposite. I think it just depends on the person.

Melina

 

[fire&ice]

Naw, I think that women who frequent diamond boards are not the general women public. We here because *we* want to learn about diamonds. I doubt we are a cross section of the world.

 

[Nicrez]

True...Meaning WE are not NORMAL!

And honestly, we aren't. I have been asking women with interesting rings about them, and too many women didn't know color or clarity on them. Me, I could tell you what type of inclusions, where they are, and every property of my stone in all types of lighting.

I guess we, the minority of diamond enthusiasts, are the kind that like the certs and look at them, whereas other girls see size or "pretty" and that's OK. Glad to know my guy knows what type I am...and STILL wants to marry me!

 

[verticalhorizon]

I'm pretty sure my GF falls into the not-caring category. But I'm having fun at least with all this!

 

[fire&ice]

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On 4/7/2004 1:23:16 PM Nicrez wrote:



I guess we, the minority of diamond enthusiasts, are the kind that like the certs and look at them, whereas other girls see size or 'pretty' and that's OK. ]----------------

Nope, that's me size *and* pretty. My feeling is that often the cert doesn't translate to the beauty of a diamond.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

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On 4/7/2004 1:23:16 PM Nicrez wrote:

True...Meaning WE are not NORMAL!

And honestly, we aren't. I have been asking women with interesting rings about them, and too many women didn't know color or clarity on them. -

We're definetly in the minority! I was talking to a woman the other day with a THREE carat upgrade and she wasn't even sure of the color and clarity

, which still astounds me as I can't imagine making that big of a purchase without knowing all the intimate details. lol

OH, and my best friend thinks I'm insane with my diamond obsession . . .but lets me play with her diamonds under my loop and clean them and all that just to indulge me (hahaha - and keep in mind this is the ONLY time her stones ever get cleaned

as to her it's not that big of a deal)!

Michelle

 

[MichelleCarmen]

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On 4/7/2004 1:38:27 PM fire&ice wrote:

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On 4/7/2004 1:23:16 PM Nicrez wrote:



I guess we, the minority of diamond enthusiasts, are the kind that like the certs and look at them, whereas other girls see size or 'pretty' and that's OK. ]----------------

Nope, that's me size *and* pretty. My feeling is that often the cert doesn't translate to the beauty of a diamond.

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This is exactly how that woman I talked with must have felt, but she just seemed interested in size, if you know what I mean. Her ring was sort of pretty but not amazing or anything

lol

Regardless if we're interested in details of the stone or not, i think, still, we're all totally neurotic here and probably need therapy

as we do seem to think about diamonds A LOT more often than the average person. BUT, hmmm. . ., the other day I went to the car wash to have my car vaccuumed and watched many of the guys there practically detail their cars with tooth brushes and I'm sure they spend far too many hours reading up on automobiles, too, so maybe we all ARE normal in some manner and it's okay to have our obsessions regardless of what they are. Who knows???

Michelle

 

[Nicrez]

True Michelle, TRUE! We each have our thing.

Now that the stone is purchased, Rand has nothing more to do with the diamond forums, (until I get preggers or an anniversary where I will need more jewels) but is now living on car forums, where he is researching a new car!

I guess since I got my shiny new baby, he wanted one too, just not so small, and the kind that goes Vroom Vroom... BOYS!

 

[verticalhorizon]

Can I get the names of those car forums?

 

[fire&ice]

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On 4/7/2004 4:04:33 PM verticalhorizon wrote:

Can I get the names of those car forums?

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The real question is not about spec interest & the female persuastion. The real question is "Why do men *ALWAYS* have to bring up CARS on the diamond board.

 

[sumi]

Well, I have to confess to being mildly neurotic about the cleanliness of my car. I always keep it clean, and I polish and wax it on a regular basis. I vacuum and Armor All the inside.....and don't forget to do the tires! OF COURSE I do this myself as I do not want strangers washing my car. (and yes, I am female if you didn't know already).

 

[fire&ice]

Not me, I pride myself on how dirty my car can become before I get called down on it.

Actually, I've given up. Our drive is 1/2 mile to the street. It's a gravel road. When it's dry there is dust covering it. When it's rained, the puddles jump up & cover the car. My cats walk all over it w/ their paw prints as well. You can't be anal about these things & live in the country.

 

[CaptAubrey]

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On 4/7/2004 6:42:51 PM fire&ice wrote:





The real question is not about spec interest & the female persuastion. The real question is 'Why do men *ALWAYS* have to bring up CARS on the diamond board.

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well, not always. though, that kind of brings up a good gender separation question: if you had $80,000 to spend, would you get this:

http://www.mbusa.com/brand/models/E55.jsp

or this

http://www.dirtcheapdiamonds.com/diamond_detail.cfm?did=2417599&ref=PS622

me, i know which i would pick.

 

[fire&ice]

Silly man. No expensive car for me!

I'd compromise. Buy the bluff 3 carat stone *and* a car *and* have some left over.

 

[Nicrez]

I'm with F&I!!! My fiance and I had this discussion. If you were given $100,000 to blow, what would you spend it on...

my #1 was diamonds of course, but QUANTITY, not size, would be my thing...$35K

and then #2 buy my fiance the nice new car (not his super deluxe sports car, just a nice new one, like he used to have BEFORE me...) $35K

and a mandatory $20K minimum in savings...

and $10K on family or maybe a big family reunion in ONE country!