Round vs Oval

[diamondtiger]

OK I need some help ... My GF is an indecisive person who doesn''t know if she wants a round or an oval diamond. She says she likes both. She likes the oval because it''s different and none of her friends have an oval. At the same time, she has a friend with a round diamond that she always talks about the way it sparkles. She really likes the sparkle.

So I guess my question is whether or not rounds sparkle more than ovals? Seeing as how she always talks about the sparkle and likes the idea of being the only one with an oval, I think the ideal situation would be to find an oval with the sparkle that she desires. Is this possible?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 10:30:55 AM
Author:diamondtiger
OK I need some help ... My GF is an indecisive person who doesn't know if she wants a round or an oval diamond. She says she likes both. She likes the oval because it's different and none of her friends have an oval. At the same time, she has a friend with a round diamond that she always talks about the way it sparkles. She really likes the sparkle.

So I guess my question is whether or not rounds sparkle more than ovals? Seeing as how she always talks about the sparkle and likes the idea of being the only one with an oval, I think the ideal situation would be to find an oval with the sparkle that she desires. Is this possible?

Usually well cut rounds are said to be the best performers but a well cut oval can also have excellent performance, I would try to pin your GF down a bit more as to what she prefers. Yes it is possible to find a well cut oval as I explained in other threads, but with the non in house diamonds they are an unknown quantity so unless you want to buy blind as I call it, which I don't recommend, best way is to work with a trusted vendor who can help you, get info on possible contenders then call the most promising ones in for evaluation.

 

[elle_chris]

I think you need to get to a jewelry store and see what she''s drawn to the most.

 

[diamondtiger]

Yeah that''s the problem - We''ve been and she''s seen both and still doesn''t know. Like I said, she''s indecisive so it''s going to come down to me. That''s why I''m hoping to find the best of both worlds.

 

[elle_chris]

Date: 7/14/2009 10:39:24 AM
Author: diamondtiger
Yeah that''s the problem - We''ve been and she''s seen both and still doesn''t know. Like I said, she''s indecisive so it''s going to come down to me. That''s why I''m hoping to find the best of both worlds.

Then I think I would go for a round (it''s usually the safest bet and easier to get an ideal cut) and try to get an idea of what kind of setting she''d like.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 10:39:24 AM
Author: diamondtiger
Yeah that''s the problem - We''ve been and she''s seen both and still doesn''t know. Like I said, she''s indecisive so it''s going to come down to me. That''s why I''m hoping to find the best of both worlds.

Thats tricky if she has tried them both on and doesn''t know....If in doubt I would say to go for a round unless you are sure she would prefer an oval.

 

[diamondtiger]

Man ... Ha ha that''s what I was hoping NOT to hear. I''ve been looking for an oval but now I feel like I''ve been wasting my time. I''ve tried prodding her to get some kind of indication one way or the other but can''t really get anything. So with that being said, what should I look for in a round? Can you help with any recommendations? My budget is aroun $5500. As always, thank you for your time and input ...

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 10:58:27 AM
Author: diamondtiger
Man ... Ha ha that's what I was hoping NOT to hear. I've been looking for an oval but now I feel like I've been wasting my time. I've tried prodding her to get some kind of indication one way or the other but can't really get anything. So with that being said, what should I look for in a round? Can you help with any recommendations? My budget is aroun $5500. As always, thank you for your time and input ...

Sorry....

Yes I can certainly have a look for some rounds for you. And you are most welcome, glad to help!

How much of the budget is for the diamond alone please?

 

[diamondtiger]

The $5500 is for the diamond. Thanks ahead of time ...

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 11:15:21 AM
Author: diamondtiger
The $5500 is for the diamond. Thanks ahead of time ...

Ok, I will take a look for you very shortly....

 

[Regular Guy]

till Lorelei gets back...

WF has a pretty good number of ACA''s I''d be motivated to focus on....and which you can see by that search by cut tool mentioned in the other thread.

Based on your previous review, do have a sense of your GF''s color sensitivity? There''s this one conservatively at $5518 wire priced, another just below $5500 still above 1 carat, at H. Others slightly larger with higher colors through J, sticking with VS2 and SI1.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 11:35:28 AM
Author: Regular Guy

till Lorelei gets back...

WF has a pretty good number of ACA's I'd be motivated to focus on....and which you can see by that search by cut tool mentioned in the other thread.

Based on your previous review, do have a sense of your GF's color sensitivity? There's this one conservatively at $5518 wire priced, another just below $5500 still above 1 carat, at H. Others slightly larger with higher colors through J, sticking with VS2 and SI1.

Ira, that one could be perfect, I know the OP was hoping for a carat so the ACA could be a great choice!

Here we go....

http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-2106432.htm#

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-46307.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-906726.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1982311.htm

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6058/

There we go, between these and Ira's picks there are a few to be going on with, if interested in any of these make sure you ask the vendors if any SI clarity grades are eyeclean to your standards.

 

[diamondtiger]

She''s never said anything about color, only mentioning numerous times that she likes the way her friend''s ring sparkles. With that being said, though, I do value it. I don''t want a big stone at the sake of sacrificing color and clarity.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 11:54:20 AM
Author: diamondtiger
She''s never said anything about color, only mentioning numerous times that she likes the way her friend''s ring sparkles. With that being said, though, I do value it. I don''t want a big stone at the sake of sacrificing color and clarity.

If the cut is good ( as in the ones we suggested) and the diamonds are eyeclean ( confirm with the vendor), the colour grades of the diamonds above will be extremely white so no sacrifice needed. If you want higher colour and clarity such as F/ G and VS we can certainly find some of those, but we will have to go smaller most likely. Let us know if you would like a selection of those too and we can look for some more!

 

[Regular Guy]

$5490 wire priced

Date: 7/14/2009 11:40:05 AM
Author: Lorelei

if interested in any of these make sure you ask the vendors if any SI clarity grades are eyeclean to your standards.

ditto...

 

[ficklefaye]

i also agree with the round shape, instead of getting a diamond shape because no one else she knows has it, she can always play around with setting and band options to suit her personality and create something unique for herself, of course i say this because i own a round myself and love my setting and band

i''m no help with choosing a diamond tho, i''ll leave that to the experts

 

[diamondtiger]

OK ... Wow. I don''t know where to start because that is a lot to take in. I do have one question regarding color and clarity - AGS and AGI grading is different, right? For instance, is a VS1 AGS the same as a VS1 AGI?

As for the band, she actually does know what she wants there - the Tacori 2620.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 12:25:36 PM
Author: diamondtiger
OK ... Wow. I don't know where to start because that is a lot to take in. I do have one question regarding color and clarity - AGS and AGI grading is different, right? For instance, is a VS1 AGS the same as a VS1 AGI?

As for the band, she actually does know what she wants there - the Tacori 2620.

Or do you mean AGS and GIA rather than AGI? If so both labs are considered to be the gold standard of colour and clarity grading with AGS thought to be stricter on cut grading than GIA.


Or if you mean cut grading, AGS is the name of the lab, AGS0 is the highest cut grade, then AGS1 and so on, AGS do also number their clarity grades if you look on the report but the colour and clarity grades of AGS are considered to be graded as strictly as GIA.

 

[Ellen]

Get her one of the stones suggested here, and I guarantee she will not be looking at/talking about her friends ring anymore. Nothing more sparkly than a well cut round. CUT is key!!

btw, last one posted by Ira says sold.....

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/14/2009 12:40:50 PM
Author: Ellen
Get her one of the stones suggested here, and I guarantee she will not be looking at/talking about her friends ring anymore. Nothing more sparkly than a well cut round. CUT is key!!

btw, last one posted by Ira says sold.....

Hold on, there is something new (and different!) that has been rivling rounds. It's a cushion cut recently designed by one of the PS vendors. Do you think she might be interested in one? These are killer. They seriously have me debating on exchanging my round for one, and I have a really nice round!

Have a look at a comparison.

http://www.vimeo.com/5512032


And here's the latest ring on here with one. Tons of pics throughout!

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/ajs-ering-downgrade-to-a-gog-omc.119094/

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 12:49:21 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 7/14/2009 12:40:50 PM
Author: Ellen
Get her one of the stones suggested here, and I guarantee she will not be looking at/talking about her friends ring anymore. Nothing more sparkly than a well cut round. CUT is key!!

btw, last one posted by Ira says sold.....

Hold on, there is something new (and different!) that has been riving rounds. It''s a cushion cut recently designed by one of the PS vendors. Do you think she might be interested in one? These are killer. They seriously have me debating on exchanging my round for one, and I have a really nice round!

Have a look at a comparison.

http://www.vimeo.com/5512032


And here''s the latest ring on here with one. Tons of pics throughout!

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/ajs-ering-downgrade-to-a-gog-omc.119094/

GOOD idea Miss, that could be a great option!

 

[diamondtiger]

Sorry, I meant GIA. So a GIA "H" color and an AGS "H" are the same? And the same goes with clarity?

Also, what kind of Holloway Cut Advisor score do you want?

 

[glitterata]

I''m going to be different and say: Get an oval. She''s on the fence and wants you to decide. She said she wants either a round or an oval, so she won''t be disappointed if you do get an oval. Nobody else will have one. It will have personality.

Just make sure you get the best oval in the whole wide world, so it will satisfy her need for sparkle.

However, if you do decide on a round, someone seems to be offering a Brian Gavin Diamonds 1.36 ct G SI2 on Diamondbistro.com for $5000 or best offer. I have no experience with diamondbistro & have idea whether it''s safe to buy from there, but it might be something to consider?

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/14/2009 12:51:23 PM
Author: Lorelei

GOOD idea Miss, that could be a great option!

Fankies!

 

[diamondtiger]

Thanks Ellen. I''m at work and the first site is blocked but I can view the thread with the pics and that is very pretty. How much would one of these diamonds cost?

 

[elle_chris]

Glitt- the specs on the stone are a little strange for a BG diamond.

it says depth: 59.6
table:59
crown:34
pav.40.9
and small culet

Does BG cut stones like this? with a table and depth that are almost the same?

eta: maybe those numbers are before the recut?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 1:00:38 PM
Author: elle_chris
Glitt- the specs on the stone are a little strange for a BG diamond.

it says depth: 59.6
table:59
crown:34
pav.40.9
and small culet

Does BG cut stones like this? with a table and depth that are almost the same?

eta: maybe those numbers are before the recut?

Maybe it is a non Signature diamond or could have been pre recut....

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 12:52:43 PM
Author: diamondtiger
Sorry, I meant GIA. So a GIA ''H'' color and an AGS ''H'' are the same? And the same goes with clarity?

Also, what kind of Holloway Cut Advisor score do you want?

AGS and GIA are said to grade colour and clarity accurately. With the HCA generally we look for diamonds which score below 2 in most cases, the HCA is used for rejection not selection.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 12:58:19 PM
Author: diamondtiger
Thanks Ellen. I'm at work and the first site is blocked but I can view the thread with the pics and that is very pretty. How much would one of these diamonds cost?

Here is the vendor link so you can check prices

www.goodoldgold.com

This link might work for some prices

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamondResults.php?shape=4194304&inHouse=3&resultsColumns=402669583

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/14/2009 12:58:19 PM
Author: diamondtiger
Thanks Ellen. I''m at work and the first site is blocked but I can view the thread with the pics and that is very pretty. How much would one of these diamonds cost?

You''re welcome.

Ok, hopefully you can view it from home. Not many on hand, they are selling like hotcakes. They have:

1.07 G VS2 for 6,086.00

1.63 L VS2 for 5,946.00

1.05 E SI1 for 5,482.00

You can always call, tell them what you want specs/pricewise, and they should be able to get it in for you, not sure on time frame though. Tell ya what, the G is the same one as in the video comparison you can''t view, and I really like it! If you could swing it, it''s a great stone.