Round vs Oval

[diamondtiger]

So for the HCA, is 0 ideal?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 1:43:54 PM
Author: diamondtiger
So for the HCA, is 0 ideal?

No, a lower score is not better than a higher one, the aim is to score below 2 and evaluate from there with images. Scores below 2 are considered equal pending further evaluation with images.

 

[DiamondFlame]

Well, if you want to play it ''safe'' go with the round. Lots of sparkle there IF that''s all she cares about. But I say hang on. It seems to me the idea of having something different from her friends holds such an appeal that she gets indecisive about this whole thing. That makes the oval shape (or perhaps a sparkly of a different shape) EQUALLY as important as the ''sparkle'' of a round. A sparkly oval is not impossible to find but it is harder to pick one based on numbers alone. You wd need a reputable vendor to help. One advantage that the oval has over the round is it faces up larger than a round of equivalent weight.

But if it''s a sparkle AND difference she is after, I too feel it would be a crime not to let her check out GoG''s signature cushions/OMCs..

 

[diamondtiger]

Thanks for the input. I''m definitely going to go check those out. The only thing is that I''m trying to make this a surprise and all so it''s going to be hard to see if she likes it or not. Who knows, I may just have to take a chance ...

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 2:16:29 PM
Author: diamondtiger
Thanks for the input. I''m definitely going to go check those out. The only thing is that I''m trying to make this a surprise and all so it''s going to be hard to see if she likes it or not. Who knows, I may just have to take a chance ...

Also most of the vendors do have good return policies so you are covered anyway.

 

[diamondtiger]

Date: 7/14/2009 12:53:54 PM
Author: glitterata
Just make sure you get the best oval in the whole wide world, so it will satisfy her need for sparkle.

You got one in mind?

 

[diamondtiger]

Date: 7/14/2009 1:17:40 PM
Author: Ellen
Ok, hopefully you can view it from home. Not many on hand, they are selling like hotcakes. They have:


1.07 G VS2 for 6,086.00


1.63 L VS2 for 5,946.00


1.05 E SI1 for 5,482.00


You can always call, tell them what you want specs/pricewise, and they should be able to get it in for you, not sure on time frame though. Tell ya what, the G is the same one as in the video comparison you can''t view, and I really like it! If you could swing it, it''s a great stone.

OK I got the page to come up that shows these diamonds (no video though). They look amazing and I''m especially intrigued by the first one. Any thoughts on it? What do you gather from the ASET image DiamXray? Another thing is that the GIA report comments that the crown angles are greater than 40 degrees - is this a good or bad thing?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 3:39:53 PM
Author: diamondtiger

Date: 7/14/2009 1:17:40 PM
Author: Ellen
Ok, hopefully you can view it from home. Not many on hand, they are selling like hotcakes. They have:


1.07 G VS2 for 6,086.00


1.63 L VS2 for 5,946.00


1.05 E SI1 for 5,482.00


You can always call, tell them what you want specs/pricewise, and they should be able to get it in for you, not sure on time frame though. Tell ya what, the G is the same one as in the video comparison you can't view, and I really like it! If you could swing it, it's a great stone.

OK I got the page to come up that shows these diamonds (no video though). They look amazing and I'm especially intrigued by the first one. Any thoughts on it? What do you gather from the ASET image DiamXray? Another thing is that the GIA report comments that the crown angles are greater than 40 degrees - is this a good or bad thing?

It isn't usually a bad thing, this is a common remark in the comments section of a report of a fancy shape. The diamonds are a new design by Jon and as such we need to get familiar with them and their various nuances, from what I have seen they are beautiful!

The first diamond looks great, excellent images too - if you want to learn more about how to read ASET images then this link is very useful. If you are seriously considering this diamond contact Jon and get him to put it on hold, these diamonds are selling like hotcakes!

http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=education-performance

 

[diamondtiger]

Date: 7/14/2009 11:40:05 AM

There's this one

http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-2106432.htm#


http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-46307.htm


http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-906726.htm


http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1982311.htm


http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6058/



If you were to choose one of these, which one would it be? I ask because I'm just not sure she would like the cushion or not. I'm still gonna keep that door open (I'll have to figure out a way to hint at it) but until then, I was gonna look at the rounds that your mentioned earlier. Another thing, how much do color and clarity matter with these diamonds?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 4:28:26 PM
Author: diamondtiger

Date: 7/14/2009 11:40:05 AM

There's this one

http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-2106432.htm#


http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-46307.htm


http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-906726.htm


http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1982311.htm


http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6058/

If you were to choose one of these, which one would it be? I ask because I'm just not sure she would like the cushion or not. I'm still gonna keep that door open (I'll have to figure out a way to hint at it) but until then, I was gonna look at the rounds that your mentioned earlier. Another thing, how much do color and clarity matter with these diamonds?

I would probably pick the one highlighted above but how I would approach it if I were buying is to check with the vendors which are eyeclean to my standards as most are SI clarity and then eliminate from there. Basically what you need to do is to make your expectations concerning eyecleanliness very clear to the seller, if you don't want to see any visible inclusions from any angle or distance, make sure the seller knows that so you are both on the same page.

Colour and clarity come down to personal preference, SI clarity can be an excellent choice if verified eyeclean and the colour grades of the diamonds above are also within good and popular range, no worries there.

 

[diamondtiger]

Another thing I just though of, I know that ovals will appear larger than a round of the same size. How would the GoG OMC compare to the round and oval in this aspect?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 4:45:42 PM
Author: diamondtiger
Another thing I just though of, I know that ovals will appear larger than a round of the same size. How would the GoG OMC compare to the round and oval in this aspect?

You would need to compare actual diameter measurements rather than weight and actual examples to have a comparison, I am not sure how these * generally* compare for size so measurements are your best bet. Also there are exceptions with rounds and ovals depending on weight distribution and cut quality, a shallow spready round could look larger than a deep oval which is shaped like a peg and holds all its weight in the bottom!

 

[diamondtiger]

OK ... Now I'm about to go in a different direction. I keep hearing about Brian Gavin and another poster mentioned him earlier in this thread. Who is he? I found his blog and a list of diamonds. Most of them I can't afford but #8304 is within my range. Are his better than WF of GoG?

[Policy violation. Link to blog removed by Moderator]

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 4:58:55 PM
Author: diamondtiger
OK ... Now I'm about to go in a different direction. I keep hearing about Brian Gavin and another poster mentioned him earlier in this thread. Who is he? I found his blog and a list of diamonds. Most of them I can't afford but #8304 is within my range. Are his better than WF of GoG?

Is it possible to link the diamond details directly? You would need to contact BGD and ask Lesley about this diamond and to provide images. Here is a bit of info about Brian Gavin. He is the creator of the WF A Cut Above h&a and left WF in the New Year to begin his own company and his own line of h&a diamonds. Brian is very well known in the diamond industry and his reputation as a cutter and expert is second to none. Along with Lesley Harris they now run their business together, all of their inventory isn't listed yet as it is still a new company so as you are interested in a particular diamond, contact Lesley and she will give you the details.

WF, GOG, Brian and his company all have an excellent reputation, these vendors are completely trustworthy. As to whom to go with, I am fond of saying it depends on what you want and which vendor has it, you can't go wrong with either Goodoldgold, Brian Gavin Diamonds or Whiteflash.

 

[diamondtiger]

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[diamondtiger]

Date: 7/14/2009 12:49:21 PM
Author: Ellen
something new (and different!) that has been rivling rounds. It''s a cushion cut recently designed by one of the PS vendors. Do you think she might be interested in one? These are killer. They seriously have me debating on exchanging my round for one, and I have a really nice round!

Have a look at a comparison.

http://www.vimeo.com/5512032

And here''s the latest ring on here with one. Tons of pics throughout!

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/ajs-ering-downgrade-to-a-gog-omc.119094/

Just got a chance to watch the video and ... WOW. Those look amazing.

 

[diamondtiger]

By the way, the diamond in the video is the one that is listed here at $6299, correct?

 

[Lesley Harris]

Date: 7/14/2009 1:07:22 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 7/14/2009 1:00:38 PM

Author: elle_chris

Glitt- the specs on the stone are a little strange for a BG diamond.


it says depth: 59.6

table:59

crown:34

pav.40.9

and small culet


Does BG cut stones like this? with a table and depth that are almost the same?


eta: maybe those numbers are before the recut?

Maybe it is a non Signature diamond or could have been pre recut....

Just cruising through PS posts tonight and saw this. A Brian Gavin Signature H & A would not have these specs and we don''t have a record of a 1.36 G SI2 on file since the BG Signature line was introduced in March 2009. Is there a link to the diamond so that I can see what gives?

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 7/14/2009 3:39:53 PM
Author: diamondtiger

Date: 7/14/2009 1:17:40 PM
Author: Ellen
Ok, hopefully you can view it from home. Not many on hand, they are selling like hotcakes. They have:


1.07 G VS2 for 6,086.00


1.63 L VS2 for 5,946.00


1.05 E SI1 for 5,482.00


You can always call, tell them what you want specs/pricewise, and they should be able to get it in for you, not sure on time frame though. Tell ya what, the G is the same one as in the video comparison you can''t view, and I really like it! If you could swing it, it''s a great stone.

OK I got the page to come up that shows these diamonds (no video though). They look amazing and I''m especially intrigued by the first one. Any thoughts on it? What do you gather from the ASET image DiamXray? Another thing is that the GIA report comments that the crown angles are greater than 40 degrees - is this a good or bad thing?

Tiger,

These diamonds are specifically cut for AMAZING light performance. I have been looking for a cushion for 2 months now and the ASET, pictures and VIDEO of all of these stones blow any other cushion out of the water. The last thing you have to worry about in these signature cut stones is the CUT!

I would have snapped up this G cushion but I want something a little bigger and a little more square. OMC cushions have high crown angles, small tables and large crowns. These GOG signatures are all cut to almost identical specs to ensure the light performance of them is spectacular.

There are a couple of videos comparing a GOG signature cushion to a round in natural sunlight you should check out the video of this one the comparison with a round is at the end.

http://www.vimeo.com/5219738

CCL

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 7/14/2009 10:37:09 PM
Author: diamondtiger
By the way, the diamond in the video is the one that is listed here at $6299, correct?

Yes.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/14/2009 11:30:46 PM
Author: Lesley Harris

Date: 7/14/2009 1:07:22 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 7/14/2009 1:00:38 PM

Author: elle_chris

Glitt- the specs on the stone are a little strange for a BG diamond.


it says depth: 59.6

table:59

crown:34

pav.40.9

and small culet


Does BG cut stones like this? with a table and depth that are almost the same?


eta: maybe those numbers are before the recut?

Maybe it is a non Signature diamond or could have been pre recut....

Just cruising through PS posts tonight and saw this. A Brian Gavin Signature H & A would not have these specs and we don''t have a record of a 1.36 G SI2 on file since the BG Signature line was introduced in March 2009. Is there a link to the diamond so that I can see what gives?

Glitterata, just bumping this, can you post the link to the diamond you saw please?

 

[Lorelei]

diamondtiger, thats a FABULOUS round from BGD!!!!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/14/2009 10:37:09 PM
Author: diamondtiger
By the way, the diamond in the video is the one that is listed here at $6299, correct?

It''s listed at that, but if you bankwire the money, that''s gets you the discount (6086). Bankwire is safe, I have done it as have many of us, in case you were wondering.

I have been trying to think of a way to show your gal a video of the stones without arousing suspician. Could you say you were just doing some homework online and just found the video? Since you said she has looked in stores, she obviously knows that eventually you will buy something, so doing homework would not be out of the ordinary, right? Just a thought! (aren''t they awesome??)


And yes, the BGD is gorgeous, no surprise there! Either of these vendors would get you a gorgeous ring, and they are great to work with.

 

[vanderaf]

Hi Leslie,

I saw that diamond and it is not a BGD diamond for sale. I believe that someone is listing their diamond for sale that they had sent to BGD for a possible recut and did not have recut by Brian but was using the aset image from BGD. Very confusing for buyers I think...

 

[diamondtiger]

Date: 7/15/2009 12:12:36 AM
Author:
Tiger,

These diamonds are specifically cut for AMAZING light performance. I have been looking for a cushion for 2 months now and the ASET, pictures and VIDEO of all of these stones blow any other cushion out of the water. The last thing you have to worry about in these signature cut stones is the CUT!

I would have snapped up this G cushion but I want something a little bigger and a little more square. OMC cushions have high crown angles, small tables and large crowns. These GOG signatures are all cut to almost identical specs to ensure the light performance of them is spectacular.

There are a couple of videos comparing a GOG signature cushion to a round in natural sunlight you should check out the video of this one the comparison with a round is at the end.

http://www.vimeo.com/5219738

CCL

I got to watch the video last night and that diamond was amazing. I think it is both beautiful and different. The only thing was that my GF was in the same room so I had to watch it on mute - did i miss anything??

 

[diamondtiger]

Date: 7/15/2009 5:44:59 AM
Author: Lorelei
diamondtiger, thats a FABULOUS round from BGD!!!!

I thought so too! I''m really torn between this one and the GoG cushion. I did some more prodding last night and the more I talk to her, the less sure I feel that she even knows what she wants. For instance, she even brought up a friend who had an emerald cut and how she liked it but that it didn''t have the sparkle. She also showed me an oval that she liked (of course it was Katie Holmes'' 5ct oval!!). I guess what I''m saying is that she is open to anything I think.

BTW ... I talked to Lesley at BGD and she was so nice. She was very helpful and it was a pleasure talking to her.

 

[diamondtiger]

Date: 7/15/2009 7:26:45 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 7/14/2009 10:37:09 PM

Author: diamondtiger

By the way, the diamond in the video is the one that is listed here at $6299, correct?

It''s listed at that, but if you bankwire the money, that''s gets you the discount (6086). Bankwire is safe, I have done it as have many of us, in case you were wondering.

I have been trying to think of a way to show your gal a video of the stones without arousing suspician. Could you say you were just doing some homework online and just found the video? Since you said she has looked in stores, she obviously knows that eventually you will buy something, so doing homework would not be out of the ordinary, right? Just a thought! (aren''t they awesome??)



And yes, the BGD is gorgeous, no surprise there! Either of these vendors would get you a gorgeous ring, and they are great to work with.

That''s a great idea. I really want her to see the video because I know it definitely opened my eyes. That diamond is "different" and it still "sparkles" - the best of both worlds! And like I mentioned a couples posts ago, she even mentioned liking the emerald and princess cuts that a couple friends had.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/15/2009 11:52:25 AM
Author: diamondtiger

Date: 7/15/2009 7:26:45 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 7/14/2009 10:37:09 PM

Author: diamondtiger

By the way, the diamond in the video is the one that is listed here at $6299, correct?

It''s listed at that, but if you bankwire the money, that''s gets you the discount (6086). Bankwire is safe, I have done it as have many of us, in case you were wondering.

I have been trying to think of a way to show your gal a video of the stones without arousing suspician. Could you say you were just doing some homework online and just found the video? Since you said she has looked in stores, she obviously knows that eventually you will buy something, so doing homework would not be out of the ordinary, right? Just a thought! (aren''t they awesome??)



And yes, the BGD is gorgeous, no surprise there! Either of these vendors would get you a gorgeous ring, and they are great to work with.

That''s a great idea. I really want her to see the video because I know it definitely opened my eyes. That diamond is ''different'' and it still ''sparkles'' - the best of both worlds! And like I mentioned a couples posts ago, she even mentioned liking the emerald and princess cuts that a couple friends had.

Sounds like she isn''t sure what she wants but really either the BG diamond or the GOG chunky cushion you can''t go wrong.