Round Diamond Advice/Opinon

[chillybear]

Hello

This is my second forum thread, not sure if I should have continued in my first one but I need advice/opinon on the following

I had thought I had narrowed my list down, but the person I have been working with came across this diamond that he is highly recommending

https://www.agslab.com/reportTypes/pldqr.php?StoneID=104070763005&Weight=1.01&D=1

Shape and Style: Round Brilliant
Measurements: 6.48 - 6.49 x 3.96 mm
Cut Grade: AGS Ideal 0
Color Grade: AGS 2.0 (H)
Clarity Grade: AGS 6 (SI2)
Carat Weight 1.017
Fluorescence: Negligible
Comments:



Additional twinning wisps and surface graining are not shown.



Light Performance: 0
Polish: Ideal
Symmetry: Ideal
Table: 57.2%
Crown Angle: 34.8
Crown Height: 15.0%
Girdle: Faceted, 1.2% to 3.6%
Pavilion Angle: 40.8
Pavilion Depth: 43.1%
Star Length: 51%
Lower Girdle Length: 76%
Total Depth: 61.1%
Culet: Pointed

HCA of 1.5

He mentioned that the price would be about $5600 USD, and of course if I like it I should order it in asap.

Is this price "ok"? I havent really looked into AGS stones with these specs too heavily so am not that familiar with the pricing.

Am I missing something or getting appropriate value?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Andelain]

Better color, and .03 bigger, for $100 more.

www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.04-carat-g-color-si2-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-83738

 

[diamondseeker2006]

If they don't have pictures so you can see if it is eyeclean, I am not sure I would bother.

Even the stone Ande posted doesn't look like it would be eyeclean to me. You do need to use vendors with photos at the very least. There are a lot of SI2's that won't be eyeclean.

This diamond looks like a good buy to me if they confirm it is eyeclean:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12116/

 

[Lorelei]

Hi Chilly,

The diamond you posted has super numbers but as you are aware, the main concern is whether it is eye clean to your standards or not. Would there be a charge for calling this one in? Does the vendor recommending this diamond know whether it is in fact eye clean to your expectations? I would be very specific concerning this, such as, if your personal standards are along these lines, that you don't want to see any visible inclusions from any angle or distance, in any lighting, make sure the vendor knows that. Also ask if any inclusions in SI2 clarity grades are causing a loss of brilliance. Some SI2 might fit the bill and others might not. If this diamond does check out to be suitably eye clean, then it is definitely worth further investigation.

Great choices from Ande and Seekies, as above with an SI clarity grades, same advice applies. If Ande's selection appealed to you then you would need to find out if the stone is eye clean and then request an Idealscope image. Jon from Good old Gold would be able to advise regarding DS's and that one has all the info provided already.

I hope this helps!

 

[chillybear]

So it sounds like this isnt a "deal" but at the same time I am not getting robbed

I actually did ask for pictures for this particular diamond but was told that the seller was a "volume" seller and that they usually do not take pictures, thus there wasnt one (alarm bells?)

The person I am working with did mention though that they were able to confirm that the diamond is "eye clean", and that is according to "industry standard" which is about 10-12 inches face up.

There would be a return shipping cost if I were to call this one in, hence while I am quite tempted (as mentioned the numbers all look spot on) the return shipping will eat into my budget if it works out to not be the one...

The diamond posted by diamondseeker2006 is super tempting, the plot diagram looks much cleaner then the one I posted. While not an absolute indicator, having a clean plot does give me a bit more piece of mind, though I wish that diamond hit the 1ct mark.

Im beginning to debate whether to continue working with this fellow as providing no pictures, and if their pricing is similar to blue nile or james allen its not very compelling to work with them.

 

[Lorelei]

So it sounds like this isnt a "deal" but at the same time I am not getting robbed

I actually did ask for pictures for this particular diamond but was told that the seller was a "volume" seller and that they usually do not take pictures, thus there wasnt one (alarm bells?)

The person I am working with did mention though that they were able to confirm that the diamond is "eye clean", and that is according to "industry standard" which is about 10-12 inches face up.

There would be a return shipping cost if I were to call this one in, hence while I am quite tempted (as mentioned the numbers all look spot on) the return shipping will eat into my budget if it works out to not be the one...

The diamond posted by diamondseeker2006 is super tempting, the plot diagram looks much cleaner then the one I posted. While not an absolute indicator, having a clean plot does give me a bit more piece of mind, though I wish that diamond hit the 1ct mark.

Im beginning to debate whether to continue working with this fellow as providing no pictures, and if their pricing is similar to blue nile or james allen its not very compelling to work with them.

I think it's risky personally with SI2 as although the industry standards of ' eye cleanliness' go something like this - no visible inclusions face up in normal lighting at a distance of around 10-12 inches with normal vision, as you mention above, is this YOUR definition? If you don't want to see any visible inclusions as previously mentioned, some SI2 might fit the bill, others might not. Personally, I would not want to waste my money either on shipping fees either on a stone that may or may not be right...It depends on how you prefer to shop, if you do decide to try online, you have such stones as the one DS suggested that have all the analysis done for you, plus the expertise of a trusted vendor to help you determine ' eye cleanliness' and so forth. Otherwise, if you do prefer to stick to a b&m store, work with someone that can inspect the stones for you or can bring them in for viewing without cost to you.

 

[chillybear]

Lorelei your honest opinon is very much appreciated

I also whole heartedly agree with what you said.

I think I was getting caught up in the "hey - I can get you a good deal, if you dont buy it now someone else is going to snatch it up!"

The person I am dealing with is a "drop shipper" type person. Where he would source some diamonds, and provided me with a list of suggested ones as per my specs. If we find one we like we order it in, and if I happen to not like it I would pay return shipping back.

Now that I think about it more, its similar to James Allen and Blue Nile where I would need to pay return shipping back anyways (Im in Canada).

I think I would like to get some pictures at the very least, if I do have to pay return shipping back. Agh maybe I should cave and get a mossonite

 

[Lorelei]

Lorelei your honest opinon is very much appreciated

I also whole heartedly agree with what you said.

I think I was getting caught up in the "hey - I can get you a good deal, if you dont buy it now someone else is going to snatch it up!"

The person I am dealing with is a "drop shipper" type person. Where he would source some diamonds, and provided me with a list of suggested ones as per my specs. If we find one we like we order it in, and if I happen to not like it I would pay return shipping back.

Now that I think about it more, its similar to James Allen and Blue Nile where I would need to pay return shipping back anyways (Im in Canada).

I think I would like to get some pictures at the very least, if I do have to pay return shipping back. Agh maybe I should cave and get a mossonite

Most welcome Chilly!

In SI2 grades that could get expensive with the return shipping, especially as it's not proving easy to get a definitive answer regarding ' eye cleanliness.'...Hang in there, it will all work out the way it should! With the diamond in question, is there any way your vendor could get a definite opinion from the holder of this stone whether it is eye clean from all angles, all distances in everyday lighting conditions? Could they at least get a magnified photo for you? The stone does have definite potential, it has a lot of positives as far as can be told from the basic info but it all comes down to the eye clean factor. Have a chat with your vendor and explain the situation, see what they offer...They might agree to split the return shipping for example should the diamond not check out.