rough diamond jewelry

[stanley]

I hope I''m not violating the forum''s rules regarding postings of sales ads, as this isnt my intention, but rather I''m looking for advice.

I have an engagement ring thats um... ''surplus'' to my needs - a colorless, glassy 1.91ct flawless octahedron (hasn''t been worked on in any way that I can tell, you can still clearly make out trigons on all surfaces under magnification). It''s set in a platinum kretchmer tension mount. Naturally of course I have a KPC for the stone.

Can anyone suggest my best avenue to liquidate this ring? should I just scrap out the band and sell the stone, or would I have any luck selling it for what it is? The octahedron is one of the most impressive I''ve seen, and when it flashes fire at you - well as the pics show - it can be quite impressive. But it''s a bit of a specialty beast.

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

TIA

 

[kenny]

Cool ring.
Got any more pics from different angles?

I'd buy such a unique thing if I had some cash laying around.

I think it would sell faster if NOT marked as an engagement ring, but rather as a right hand ring.

If you have any company sell it for you they may sell it faster, and you'll avoid the hassle and risk of dealing with the public, but they take a cut.

Try Craigslist or eBay.

 

[D&T]

you could try consigning with http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/ or ebay and Craigslist looks like a beauty... good luck

 

[stanley]

the ring is very difficult to take a photo of. i had to either position it to direct any fire AWAY from the camera making the stone look dull. or have a horribly over exposed image. the first pic i posted was taken in early afternoon in full sun outdoors. the reason why it''s so dark is because the stone throws off so much light due to the large faces on the octahedron. basically this guy is ALL fire and very little scintillation.

i originally mixed the idea of craigslist or ebay just because this is so much of an oddball piece, but I may try and throw it up on a fixed price sale to see if i get any nibbles...

more pics...

 

[stanley]

thanks for the url btw!

 

[stanley]

last pic...

 

[kenny]

Thanks but I can't figure out where the ring is.
All I see is two pieces of metal and the rock.

Can you back off and take a pic that is not close up that shows the entire ring?
And don't try to get a flash of light.
It causes the camera to stop down the lens.

If you can't that's fine.
You've already proven it can act as a prism and break up light.
I'm just pretty fascinated by this ring and wonder what it looks like.

 

[stanley]

i dont have any graphic utility that will scale, only crop on this computer, so i cant get under 100 kb with any of the images i have unless its very close up.

is this any better?

 

[glitterata]

Wow, that is a cool ring!

What''s the finger size?

 

[haagen_dazs]

not to sound rude or anything but hmmm is that a diamond ?

 

[glitterata]

The question of where to sell jewelry sometimes comes up on the jewelry and colored stone forums on this board. You might take a look there for recent threads and see if you find anything helpful.

 

[stanley]

it''s a size 6. thank you.

 

[denverappraiser]

Realistically I would expect you to end up scrapping the ring and selling the stone separately. The style makes it effectively impossible to size and the limitation of your customers to those who both like the style and are of the appropriate size is severely restricting. Selling the stone is going to be a tricky beast. There’s a market for mineral collectors and folks who just like cool stuff but selling to a cutter is going to require paperwork about the origin that I presume you don’t have. Where did you get it? How did you come to the conclusion that it's 'flawless' or, for that matter, what it weighs?

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 11/5/2009 1:10:42 PM
Author: denverappraiser
Realistically I would expect you to end up scrapping the ring and selling the stone separately. The style makes it effectively impossible to size and the limitation of your customers to those who both like the style and are of the appropriate size is severely restricting. Selling the stone is going to be a tricky beast. There’s a market for mineral collectors and folks who just like cool stuff but selling to a cutter is going to require paperwork about the origin that I presume you don’t have. Where did you get it? How did you come to the conclusion that it''s ''flawless'' or, for that matter, what it weighs?


Neil Beaty

GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA

Professional Appraisals in Denver

I think he mentioned that he has the KPC paper, 2nd paragraph last sentence.

 

[kenny]

Yes Stanley.
Now I understand the ring design.
Thank you for posting that pic.

 

[glitterata]

Well, if I wore a size 6 I would consider this ring very seriously. But it''s too small for me.

I wouldn''t be surprised if there were a size 6 wearer out there who thinks this is a cool ring and wants it. It''s a really neat idea, and the stone looks beautiful.

It''s just a question of finding the right route to that person. I would try Pearlman''s or some other route before scrapping it.

 

[haagen_dazs]

hi all
what is a KPC paper

 

[stone-cold11]

KPC = Kimberley Process Cert.

 

[denverappraiser]

Consigning it to one of the stores mentioned for a while to see if it sells doesn’t usually cost more than a bit of shipping and a little bit of time so there’s not much lost by seeing if they want to work with you on it. I agree, it’s a cool ring if you can find the right person. I’m sure they’ll be happy to discuss their program and whether or not they think this will fit in well with their selection.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver

 

[stanley]

Well. lets play a little game that really doesnt count for much. Lets assume you were a size 6 and you saw the ring in person and liked how it looked on your finger. what is the most you would be willing to spend for it - please feel to weigh in anyone.

I ask this mainly because the best market for the stone is going to be with rare mineral / natural history collectors. Octos quite this nice are few and far between. It''s a small, but none the less real market. As a potential gemstone for a cutter the stone isnt worth nearly as much, so that route is a non starter.

I''m curious if buyers for the ring would look at this as a ''potential'' .xx ct x color stone and base the implied value on that - or if the rarity of the rough would play into such mental calculations.

as always, TIA!

 

[kenny]

$1,000.

 

[HopeDream]

Hi Sanley,

Diamond in the rough sells peices made of rough diamonds in pave settings, so you could contact them and see what their peices cost, then discount for lack of pave and used condition.

It''s an interesting peice.