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Romanov Russia site: duplicates of “antique” pieces? Trustworthy?

Pinkmartini87

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Hi all,

I came upon a gorgeous pair of amethyst and demantoid earrings on Romanov Russia’s website, but remembered that somehow these look familiar...after some sleuthing, I found out that they sold a very similar pair a while back (slightly bigger with diff initials for maker). IMHO, finding two pairs of rare Siberian amethyst and demantoid earrings that look almost identical is like hen’s teeth.

Here are the links to each:


What makes me hesitate is that otherwise the two pairs of earrings are almost identical in type of setting, gold, etc. I would also say many of their other pieces have a similar “style” and feel and makes me question where the heck are they getting these pieces???

What do you all think? Real antiques or possible reproductions? Anyone bought from them before?
 

marymm

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Well, the vendor does offer an unconditional guarantee as to authenticity, with lifetime return privilege for authenticity ... that policy makes me lean towards believing the items are as represented ... it has a Better Business Bureau score of A- ... however, if I were to purchase anything from Romanov Russia, likely I would try to obtain an appraisal and evaluation as to authenticity within a reasonable time after purchase.
 

PreRaphaelite

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But fashionable people (and their jewellery) always existed within the zephyr of trend. It's reasonable to expect to find very similar styles of accessory in any given era, just as you'd find benches producing Tension settings or Mokume now, for example.

Also, sometimes designs get copied when it sells well.

I think they are legit. I've never bought from Romanov Russia, though. Just thinking out loud, really.
 
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Bron357

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I’m confident they are legitimate. They have been around a while and have beautiful items which from their quality photos and detailed descriptions are relatively easy to assess. Apart from it being illegal and fraudulent to misrepresent antique Russian hallmarks (they are a US based company not based somewhere away from the long arm of the law) it would be expensive and difficult to re create such fine workmanship. There’s a reason why antique Russian jewellery is revered, it’s exquisite.
 

GliderPoss

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I believe that seller is trustworthy and in fact I've drooled over many of their pieces myself but they are rather expensive!
 

Arkteia

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I don’t know anything about them. I don’t doubt the settings, but as to the age of the stones, I usually have my questions for all such items. Not necessarily this company, but in general. It wouldn’t matter much to me, I would be more concerned about lack of treatment of the amethysts.
 

Pinkmartini87

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@Arkteia Thank you—I too wonder if the stones are original. They are often pristine across the website and especially for softer stones like amethyst to have survived 100+ years without any facet wear, either the pieces were hardly ever worn or replaced.
 

LightBright

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This is my opinion. Take with a grain of salt.

There are very good fake antiques out there. I was told by a New Jersey antique jeweler a couple years ago that Argentina is a source of exquisite reproduction settings with finely cut stones, etc. I’m betting India is a source of fake antique gems, too.

Even some of the ‘antique diamond’ dealers we recommend here are dealing in fake antique jewelry. There’s a recently mentioned 6 plus carat OEC in a typical Argentinian repro setting mentioned this week in one of the threads. Which I think is a modern repro, but at least the stone is nicely cut and the emerald setting is unique and well done.

I’ve NEVER seen such a large selection of “antique’ gems in large carat sizes in good condition as the last five years.

Honestly, if the two pairs of earrings are identical, down to the use of green and purple stones (which seems more modern to me) they were likely made by the same modern bench and faked. How likely is it that there is a steady source of massive gems and fine settings coming out of Russia now (after the Oligarchic Nineties). Somehow there are rich people selling off their heirlooms now? I don’t buy it. I would consider pristine settings with pristine gems that are large to boot, reproductions without a paper trail.
 

Rfisher

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I don’t know about the authenticity of RoR’s items or what paperwork they provide as proof
Nor that amethyst with demantoid is only a recent pairing choice
But I do think some Argentina pieces are put together nicely - some not so much, lol.
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But I guess this horizontal gap between the center stone mounting and the halo could be considered ‘authentic period mfg method’ who knows? :roll:
 

Rfisher

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likely I would try to obtain an appraisal and evaluation as to authenticity within a reasonable time after purchase.
Out of curiosity

I wonder if any of the PS approved appraisers that participate in this forum ever commented on their ability or willingness to differentiate between true antiques and the (well done) repros?
 

Pinkmartini87

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“How likely is it that there is a steady source of massive gems and fine settings coming out of Russia now (after the Oligarchic Nineties). Somehow there are rich people selling off their heirlooms now? I don’t buy it.”

THIS. This is how I feel as well. Again, not trying to poo poo any online vendors without having seen the pieces in person. I just personally am doubtful when I see pristine pieces being put up by the same seller with similar stones (especially rare stone like alexandrite, etc) or similar degree of workmanship that look like they could have been made by the same bench.

Is it possible that sellers like Romanov Russia have exceedingly fortunate connections in order to acquire true antique Russian jewelry? Of course. But I agree that maybe odds are low in my humble opinion.

Part of me really wants to buy, but part of me says “if it’s too good to be true...”
 
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