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Red Spinel - How terrible of an idea is this?

cocoa_and_mittens

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Hi all - first time poster and *very* new to colored stones. I’m looking for an everyday ring and was expecting the search to take me a few months. The problem is I have unexpectedly fallen in love with a spinel ring. I know very little about spinels, but I can’t stop thinking about it. Now, there’s barely any real sparkle and many visible inclusions - but that’s what I love about it (a colored stone with lots of sparkle is too flashy for daily wear for me). It’s 4.5ct and about 12k from a very high end jewelry brand.

Now, how terrible of an idea is this? Do the inclusions make the stone more prone to breakage and unsafe for daily wear? Never thought I’d buy a preset ring - what is the significance of that re: pricing? I assume it’s quite overpriced, but where else would I find rough/old cuts (if that’s a term) sapphires or spinels that don’t focus on the sparkle? Is there a particular designer? I’m way to inexperienced at this to embark on trying to source the stone on my own. Thanks so much in advance!
 

ringo865

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Wow, your description sounds lovely! Do you have any pictures to show? Spinels are not as hard as diamonds, so for every-day wear on your hand (engagement ring) it could over time get facet abrasions, chips, etc. But generally, spinels are not as $$$ as diamonds, so if you have to replace one every 10-20 years, it might not be too big an outlay.

But, yah, we just really want to see pictures :)
 

MillieLou

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The style of the ring and craftsmanship looks gorgeous, but my honest feeling is that you will become dissatisfied with the centre stone as you learn more about coloured stones. 12K? Personally, I would wait. My advice would be different if you had been actively searching for months and this was the first thing that spoke to you, but seeing as you're new to CS, IMO hold your horses and take time to hone your tastes first :)
 

ItsMainelyYou

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Here we go! Hope it helps get an idea. 644019CF-8BF4-495D-A4D3-5C9E846494E2.jpeg

Is this from Jupiter Gem? The only thing that would be of concern is whether the inclusions effect integrity. There can be inclusions, like needles/negative crystals/clouds that aren't usually worrisome or fractures/feathers or cavities that can be depending on severity and location. They need to be plotted/pointed out to you. Does it have a report? Spinels are becoming very expensive now, so 12k isn't that crazy of a price for this ring, retail.
 

cocoa_and_mittens

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Is this from Jupiter Gem? The only thing that would be of concern is whether the inclusions effect integrity. There can be inclusions, like needles/negative crystals/clouds that aren't usually worrisome or fractures/feathers or cavities that can be depending on severity and location. They need to be plotted/pointed out to you. Does it have a report? Spinels are becoming very expensive now, so 12k isn't that crazy of a price for this ring, retail.

Hi! It’s not from Jupiter Gem - it’s from a fairly high end shop in NYC (sorry, not sure what the rules are for posting pics and listing the place). I’ve bought diamond jewelry from them before, and I’ve been very happy. I’m asking for the report, and will see what they say re: types of inclusions.
 

whitewave

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Hi! It’s not from Jupiter Gem - it’s from a fairly high end shop in NYC (sorry, not sure what the rules are for posting pics and listing the place). I’ve bought diamond jewelry from them before, and I’ve been very happy. I’m asking for the report, and will see what they say re: types of inclusions.

It definitely looks special. I think it would be a fabulous ring for you.
 

Mrs_Strizzle

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Red spinels are my absolute favorite and have been forever. 12k isn't exorbitantly expensive for a 4.5 ct red already set. You MAY be able to find a loose stone for less, but then you have to set it, etc. 4.5 cts is considered large. I would find out if it has fluorescence, though. If not it may darken in sunlight.
 

Arcadian

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Its a beautiful stone. Prices for Red Spinel are going stratospheric unfortunately, and the bigger the stone the higher you pay. As a put together ring, 12K for the size (4.5ct center?) is actually not too bad especially depending on the precious metal and content thereof (plat or white gold?) Do they have a report on the center stone? I'm picky so, it would be the one thing I would want. A report will tell you exactly what you're getting, if the thing has been cooked to death or not.

You could also have the ring sent to AGL but they won't do all the testing they could do if unset of course.

If you're very intersted, then its worth asking those pertinent questions. 12K isn't chump change.
 

ItsMainelyYou

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Red spinels are my absolute favorite and have been forever. 12k isn't exorbitantly expensive for a 4.5 ct red already set. You MAY be able to find a loose stone for less, but then you have to set it, etc. 4.5 cts is considered large. I would find out if it has fluorescence, though. If not it may darken in sunlight.

Me too! I would love a 4.5 carat red like this :love:. I love the color, it has a little less purple than mine and almost twice the size! The price isn't bad at all, especially already set. I mean, @cocoa_and_mittens always try to bargain a little, if you can8-) but if it has stable structure and I had the funds well...yoink!
 

chroman

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Just a thought - if flashy and sparkly isnt your thing, how would you feel about cabs?
 

Nick_G

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That colour, at least on my screen, is a dead ringer for a small ruby-in-marble specimen I bought a couple of years ago. It's a gorgeous stone!
 

Rfisher

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Aside from the lab report as indicated above
I would need to study the inclusions with my own eyes, with a loupe, to determine what I could live with and what I couldn’t. Surface reaching or not. That, and is the color really really pleasing to me in most lightings environments I will be in?
Not that much scintillation isn’t bothersome to me if it’s glowy and doesn’t really grey/black out when in low lighting.
 
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