- May 10, 2019
im sure they sold it to you in good faith. if the price was reasonable id be very happy with itI didn't pay Ruby price , it was from an elderly couple getting rid of some things to move across country. She said it wasn’t a Burmese Ruby, but a Thai Ruby. I just no it’s nothing like my vintage Burmese Pendant.
That’s the nicest thing anyone on here has said to me, even if it was lab made I have grown attached and the color is what captivated me.im sure they sold it to you in good faith. if the price was reasonable id be very happy with it
im not a red person but its a very beautiful colour and perfect for this time of year
i just hope it turns out to be at least worth what you paid for it
if you sat beside me on the train wearing that ring i would definatly compliment you on it
Your absolutely right, I understood what you meant that’s okay.Sorry I didn’t mean to sound horrible. Sometimes people pay big money for items but have been misled and that’s certainly not good.
there is absolutely nothing wrong with synthetic gems, they are beautiful and look exactly like natural ones. I have some wonderful synthetic gems which I love.
I just hate the thought of an unwary or inexperienced buyer spending thousands of dollars on a piece of jewellery not worth thousands of dollars.
your very welcomeThat’s the nicest thing anyone on here has said to me, even if it was lab made I have grown attached and the color is what captivated me.
Thank you for your response, it made my day which wasn’t going so well. Thank you
Interesting picture. For all the talk about spinels being the closest in appearance to ruby, I've never seen a 'ruby red' spinel because all the red spinels I've seen have a somewhat orangeish tone to them, whereas I've seen plenty of rubies with orangeish tones.
I have a red ruby ring and a red spinel ring, and the ruby is never mistaken for a spinel, whilst the spinel is occasionally mistaken for a ruby, even though it being a Tanzanian neon pink/orange red spinel, I can't see how. I've been told by a jeweller that they have seen ruby/sapphires the colour of the spinel. I find that hard to believe, but admittedly, I've not seen enough red spinels in person, being based in Europe.
Have you seen any 'ruby red' spinels that don't have any orange tone to them, say like a crimson colour?
Sorry, I had to reply to this after watching that short video on the Jubilee Ruby. I'm not sure if they didn't do their research properly but this image shown in the video:@voce,
> I think everyone has a different idea of what a "ruby red" really is. After having seen some more rubies since I first picked out my engagement ring, I have revised my idea of what a ruby color is.
Yes, so true. Ruby is a strange one, we're taught that emeralds are green, sapphires are blue, and rubies are red, but in reality, most rubies are not red. Also, unlike blues and greens, when red is lighter, we call it pink, and most red gems seem to look purple or brown when they are very dark. I guess it is the way we understand colour in modern times. Red also seems to be a colour that people have strong personal preferences in.
>Ruby red is a pinkish red, unless you specify pigeon blood, which is what I would consider crimson red. The UV fluorescence that is valued in rubies and spinels and makes them light up under low light conditions, make the stones look pinkish in broad daylight.
This is what I find confusing myself. I thought intially pigeon blood red is a red with slightly purplish undertone, not crimson, which to my mind is a bluey-red in the sense that it has no orange, but with no purply tones. I am thinking of the Jubliee ruby being a good example of this pigeon blood red:
The crimson ruby I thoght of being a good exmple of crimson red, not pigeon blood - yet this too is said to be 'pigeon blood' red.
I have an African ruby ring, which I initially thought wasn't a ruby because it was too red red, and I didn't expect rubies to come in this kind of neon red, but it is in fact pink (fuchsia/mangenta) under certain lighting conditions. I think it is a pinkish red ruby that looks crimson red in most lightings, and this is perhaps the confusion (for me). Crimson red rubies are maybe pinkish red rubies that look red in most or many lighting conditions, and pigeon blood ones are similar in that they look dark mangenta/purplish in some lightings and look red under others.
>I'll let you know that at night, my Jedi spinel (the one featured in two photos) and my Mozambique ruby shine more than my Tanzanian ruby, and appear straight red red in the absence of UV.The red spinel cab appears crimson to me, although as usual the camera has trouble picking up the intense saturation of the red.
Yes I can believe that they appear red in the absence of UV - would love to see a photo of this but I guess it's too difficult because of the lighting issue. I find it impossible to capture the red of my ruby in photos. It either looks pink or orange.
In the end, I guess what really helps is seeing a lot of stones in real life, then one gets to better understand different colours of stones under different lightings.
Apologies if I sound like I'm rambling.
depends on the species of pigeon!@voce,
Thanks - yes, they do look red as you say. Actually the spinel in the first picture looks like a very very slightly orangey red but then in the last one it looks more like a slightly pinkish red. Yet in other photos, it looked pink and not red! So I see what you mean.
I'm confused by the pigeon red also because as you said, it's often attributed to the red of the pigeons' eyes, but whilst it has no puprle to it, it's like a very orangey red, rather than pure red.
I love this ring of yours, voce.@JewelledEscalatorsPlease while it's true that sometimes pigeon eyes do look a tad orange, in the earliest days where vivid red ruby only came out of Burma (pre-modern times), there were no orange-red rubies. Hence pigeon blood mainly referred to a fine vivid red ruby.
After the vivid reds were mined out, you had more pinkish/purplish reds (Mong Hsu, Mozambique, Madagascar), and more orangish reds (spinels and rubies found in East Africa). I don't think there is an absolute one-to-one mapping of a word descriptor like pigeon blood to only one shade of red. I myself describe the stoplight reds as pigeon blood, yet even the stoplight reds, are only red in a particular lighting situation. No gem looks exactly the same in all lighting situations.
This is my favorite shade of red, yet it only comes out in noonday sunlight. And, the camera does not capture quite the same vividness my eyes see.
My ruby is from Tanzania, which has pinkish rubies, orangish rubies, and some smaller fraction of rubies like mine without noticeable modifiers.
Thank you, ChaiK!I love this ring of yours, voce.
Is it velvety not the sparkling type of red but a very glowy type?
I see some rubies are sparkling and transparent but they don't have the colour vividness of your ring here.