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missy

missy

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So I was browsing DBL's website and I just love all his jewelry. I came across the radiant cut which I know nothing about and did a search here but came up with very little and was hoping you guys could help me out with some more info. During the search I did here I came up with a thread where some people didn't care for this cut very much and I am curious about others opinions and why.
Btw, Sharon- love your ring! Don't know how I missed it but WOW!! :love:

Thanks for any info and opinions!
 
I love to look at DBL's website too. I've never been on the market for a colored stone and I typically think of them as being predominately a colored stone vendor, but I would love to own a pendant from them someday. :love:

I was never a fan of radiants, I always thought that they were too 'crushed ice' for me. But since I've been on PS I've had the opportunity to see many with a larger bolder facet structure. I've also always been a fan of the clipped corners. :love: It seems that I've been reading lots of threads lately about people on the search for a radiant cut, so it seems that it's making a come back. I think it's so interesting how diamond shapes come in and out of favor just like everything else. I've seen a couple threads about marquis cuts recently too and one about hearts. I have a feeling that people are looking for something more unique than a princess cut and blingier than an asscher or emerald cut and the radiant seems to be both of these.

I read a thread yesterday that radiants are a branded cut, I didn't know that before. TitianCI posted this yesterday in a thread, maybe you've seen it.
http://radiantcut.com/RP_Cutting.aspx
 
Thanks Christina. I didn't see Titian's thread so I appreciate that. Very interesting!
I know it comes down to personal taste and all but I am wondering why the "crushed ice" look is not favorable to most. I think it looks sparkly but since I am new to radiant cuts what am I missing?
 
http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-666ct-lvs2-radiant-gia-devilishly-lovely-written-by-omc-r3173

I think that for me it's because I'm not sure where I want to look when I see a 'crushed ice' stone. Like the one posted above, I feel like I want to look at the faceting but my eyes keep being drawn deeper into the stone where all the 'action' is taking place, and it starts to feel busy to me, like I'm not sure what I want to focus on.

I imagine though that when you are wearing one and looking at it from normal viewing distances that all that would become moot and your eyes would just see the amazing fireworks that the stone produces.
 
No, I actually think this one is very pretty, it's has that crushed look but I can still see the faceting and I don't feel that they are competing with each other. Color is amazing! :love:

I'm by no means an expert, but I know that there are many here with a lot of experience. Like you said, when it comes to radiants it seems that eveyone has their own unique preference and it's going to come down to what you like, and not what other people do. Can you have someone local call in a few different radiants for you to look at in person? I don't necessarily like Jareds, but that's where I went to look at them and our store had quite a few with different facet structures so it was a good place to compare.
 
Thanks again Christina, I really appreciate your input! It's hard for me to trust my opinion re radiants because I literally just stumbled upon them this past Tuesday on DBL's website. And I was taken with the radiant I just linked but because I am so unfamiliar with them I cannot trust my eyes if you KWIM. I know that personal taste is one factor but also experience can influence personal taste and that is where I am 100% lacking- the experience with radiant cuts.

I am seriously thinking of purchasing this radiant with David's bezel setting but am concerned because it feels like I am being impulsive having no experience with this cut and it wasn't even on my radar till I saw it on Tuesday. Before that I was planning an RB halo pendant for my pendant project. But when I saw this diamond I was sort of bedazzled if that makes sense. It is so pretty (to my eyes). However, when I searched here regarding radiant cuts I saw that some (one expert in particular whose opinion I value) have an unfavorable view of radiants in general and the crushed ice look specifically and that is why I would love to get more opinions. To see if it changes my novice opinion of this stone specifically if that makes any sense.

I wish I had time to go and check out the radiant cut in person but I literally have no time to do this within the next few months at least. We have so much on our plate right now that I was hoping I could do my pendant project via online and phone. That's why I posted here because after all this time on PS I have come to really trust PSers eyes and opinions regarding diamonds and jewelry.
 
What are you looking for Missy? Something in the .75ct range and colorless?

I just saw this at GOG and I think it has really cool faceting..
http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/4859/
 
Christina...|1336742401|3192911 said:
What are you looking for Missy? Something in the .75ct range and colorless?

I just saw this at GOG and I think it has really cool faceting..
http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/4859/
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That's gorgeous Christina! Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I am working within a tight budget so that is out of my range. I wish I had that money tree that we were discussing the other day LOL. Oh, what I would buy if there was no limit!! :Up_to_something:

I am very color sensitive for sure so that is critical for me and eyeclean is a must ofc. I just want a gorgeous diamond (of a decent size so it will make a statement) for a pendant that I will never tire of and one that will satiate my need for bling. LOL that's not too much to ask for on a tight budget is it? :cheeky:
 
Let David know what you are considering. He has a good return policy, you could always buy the stone loose and have him ship it for you to inspect. Then send it back for setting or a return and just be out the shipping. You can also visit him by appointment, he's right in the diamond district. Don't you live fairly close?
 
Maybe you should order just the stone and spend some time with it and see if it speaks to you the same way in person as it does in pictures. I felt the same way about my asscher when I saw photos of it, the numbers didn't add up to ideal but there was something about it that appealed to me, and I was so happy with I received it and never regretted the decision. Honestly, I think that if I had posted the stone on PS I would have been gently pushed toward another stone because it was a riskier purchase, so in the end I'm happy that I trusted my eyes. It's so hard to buy fancies online because you can't buy by the numbers and I think they are quite restrictive anyway, you really need to meet your diamond and get to know their personality, sometimes you hit it off and it's love at first sight, and then other times....not so much.

I definitely think that it's worth further investigation, and you really have nothing to loose right? If you love it then it's a win win, if not then you send it back and start over. I think a radiant bezel pendent sounds gorgeous too btw. I wasn't sure what your plans were for the stone, but this sounds perfect! :love:
 
I've dream of the money tree so often! About every time someone posts about a new project!

You know, I was just thinking....there are shapes that I wouldn't necessarily want for a ring, but that I think make excellent pendents, like I probably wouldn't buy a princess cut for a ring, but I like them a lot in a pendent, or hearts for a ring don't appeal to me, but I saw a three stone diamond heart pendent that I drooled over. So maybe the PSer that you mentioned would perhaps buy a radiant for a ring, but would really like them as an option for a pendent kwim? I was also thinking that the stone your considering has a perfect l/w ratio for a nice size pendent, especially with a bezel. I think I will give it a lot of presence, and be much more unique than a RB halo. And I think this one will give you lots of pin flashes of color which IMO is more appealing in a pendent than one with big bold flashy which I prefer in a ring.
 
You make some excellent and wise point Christina! What I wouldn't go for in a ring might be amazing in a pendant. And more unique than an RB halo. I just want something objectively (is there such a thing when it comes to (wearable) art?) beautiful as well as beautiful to my eyes. So I guess I am trying to get the objective (as well as subjective) opinions of my fellow PSers to help me decide.

Only thing is (and I have to speak with David about this on Monday) that I am not sure of the return policy for a custom pendant and I would hate to put him to the trouble and then return it. Sigh. I really am a very decisive person generally. It took me less time to find a home I wanted to buy then to find a diamond pendant. :oops:

Btw, it was an expert here who dislikes the radiant cut. If I can remember what he said- something along the lines of it (radiant cuts-all? most?) being deader than dead. Something like that! Not a good view and as I wrote before he is a respected trade member. I hope I'm not misremembering what he said...
 
Asscherhalo_lover|1336743209|3192917 said:
Let David know what you are considering. He has a good return policy, you could always buy the stone loose and have him ship it for you to inspect. Then send it back for setting or a return and just be out the shipping. You can also visit him by appointment, he's right in the diamond district. Don't you live fairly close?
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Thanks Asscherhalo. I do live pretty close but it is that time of year that we are not here very much and we have lots going on at our new home that requires us to be there when we are not at work. I feel overwhelmed by life right now and really want a little bling happiness to get me through LOL. This would be my early birthday present and I have maximized my budget as much as possible. I will be speaking with David on Monday and I will see what his thoughts are. I have always wanted to purchase something from him as I love his jewelry!

My other thought is that if I just see the loose stone I won't really know how I will feel about it set in the bezel pendant. It probably will look quite different and I am the type of person (just ask my dh about this-it drives him crazy) who has trouble visualizing the finished product until it is actually completed so that is a big problem in itself with any custom project. You can imagine the issues we are having right now with our home projects because of my challenges in this particular visualization area LOL.
 
missy|1336744633|3192938 said:
You make some excellent and wise point Christina! What I wouldn't go for in a ring might be amazing in a pendant. And more unique than an RB halo. I just want something objectively (is there such a thing when it comes to (wearable) art?) beautiful as well as beautiful to my eyes. So I guess I am trying to get the objective (as well as subjective) opinions of my fellow PSers to help me decide.

Only thing is (and I have to speak with David about this on Monday) that I am not sure of the return policy for a custom pendant and I would hate to put him to the trouble and then return it. Sigh. I really am a very decisive person generally. It took me less time to find a home I wanted to buy then to find a diamond pendant. :oops:

Btw, it was an expert here who dislikes the radiant cut. If I can remember what he said- something along the lines of it (radiant cuts-all? most?) being deader than dead. Something like that! Not a good view and as I wrote before he is a respected trade member. I hope I'm not misremembering what he said...
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Hmmm Thats a pretty broad statement if it did indeed include all or even most radiant cuts. But, it's hard to argue with the experts around here, if, like you said those were his thoughts. With my limited experience I certainly couldn't argue. But it is hard to imagine a well cut brilliant not being...umm...briliant! ;) I'm sure that you will be offered many different opinions as the day goes on.

Do you think that it would be a good idea to give David a call and put the diamond on hold while you wait? I'd hate to see it get purchased while you debate it. :nono: I saw that happen a few times in the past couple of weeks. There should be a sticky listing PS etiquette. :roll: And David would be in the best position to offer you an opinion of the stone too. Does he do ASETs? That would put the brilliance aspect to rest...on this particular diamond anyway.
 
Btw, it was an expert here who dislikes the radiant cut
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I know- it seemed like a pretty broad statement which why is after I read that I decided to post here because I really wanted some more opinions. While we all have our own personal taste there is something to be said about objectivity as well and after reading his comments I felt the need for more opinions regarding radiants in general and the stone I am considering specifically.

I don't have the stone on hold but David knows I am interested as I have emailed him and we agreed to chat on Monday. So I am hoping that is sufficient. David is not in the office today and that is why we are speaking on Monday. Not sure if he does ASET's. Regarding his opinion of the stone he is quite descriptive on his website and from what I gather from his written description he likes this stone but I think he likes all of his stones. :bigsmile:

There should be a sticky listing PS etiquette
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I totally agree, there should be some sort of etiquette followed but there are many lurkers who probably wouldn't abide by any type of rules regarding this anyway. I am confident that a PSer wouldn't snatch a stone up but not sure about a lurker.

Thanks again for all of your valuable input Christina!
 
I'm sure it's sufficient! :)) Good Luck, I can't wait to hear what you decide and hear the opinions of other PSers.

BTW...congrats on your new house!! :appl:
 
Thank you Christina!!

I need to clarify something- when I said that an expert here dislikes the radiant cut I was speaking only for colorless diamonds and not colored diamonds! I want to make that clear because I think color adds a whole new dimension re radiants and OMG what gorgeous yellow radiants David has!!!!! Just that for an everyday pendant I want colorless. Plus, yellow diamonds are way out of my price range anyway. :bigsmile:
 
Missy you said you had trouble envisioning the finished product. Here are some bezelled radiant pendant that might help you to visualize what your finished pendant could look like.

radiant bezel pendants.JPG
 
Thank you Chel- those are very helpful photos!

Thanks DiamondSeeker- those are gorgeous! Am I correct in assuming that you do not care for the radiant I am considering then? I really appreciate your honesty and would love your opinion as I think you have great taste.
 
missy|1336751365|3193055 said:
Thank you Chel- those are very helpful photos!

Thanks DiamondSeeker- those are gorgeous! Am I correct in assuming that you do not care for the radiant I am considering then? I really appreciate your honesty and would love your opinion as I think you have great taste.
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You are too sweet, Missy! Thank you and same to you!

Are we talking about this stone?

http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-70ct-radiant-cut-fvs1-gia-near-perfection-laser-inscribed-r4406

Honestly, I do not care for it. It reminds me of my original round diamond that I thought was beautiful before I was educated on cut and discovered ideal cut diamonds. That is not to say that everyone has to love well cut, symmetrical diamonds at all. But my personal taste is that well cut, symmetrical diamonds are most pleasing to me, and therefore, I look for that in all kinds of stones. If I wanted a radiant today, I would call Jonathan and see if he could source me a Lucere with the specs I needed. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder, of course, so I acknowledge that people have different tastes in cuts.
 
Thank you so much for your honesty DS. I really appreciate it.
 
If it's the stone DS linked, I'll give you my take on it. I like it!

I think it'll have a balanced mix of broad white flashes with pinpoint flashes of fire.

There's an L colored radiant in his inventory too, that I like more than the F. http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-78ct-radiant-cut-lvs2-gia-lovely-stone-laser-inscribed-r4429 It probably has too much warmth though, and radiants only play that up

There's something to be said about the non-predictability of radiants. The one on my finger now shows me something new about itself all the time.
 
davi_el_mejor|1336757068|3193141 said:
If it's the stone DS linked, I'll give you my take on it. I like it!

I think it'll have a balanced mix of broad white flashes with pinpoint flashes of fire.

There's an L colored radiant in his inventory too, that I like more than the F. http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-78ct-radiant-cut-lvs2-gia-lovely-stone-laser-inscribed-r4429 It probably has too much warmth though, and radiants only play that up

There's something to be said about the non-predictability of radiants. The one on my finger now shows me something new about itself all the time.
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Thank you Davi! I appreciate your opinion. I do like flash with my fire. :bigsmile:
The L is too warm for me but I agree it is a very pretty stone.

Your ring is lovely!
 
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