Questions about color and perspective WF 1.6 ctw studs.

[LLJsmom]

Hi everyone, just checking in after a week of wearing my studs. I can say that for what they are, they are lovely and sparkly. I see now why so many PSers say that the size looks good for me. I only want bigger because I can't see them well but they look great if you don't have my perspective. I suspect that is why people want larger studs, so the wearer can see them better.

I think I am having issues with the color. I can definitely appreciate the sparkle. It does sparkle lots and lots. But even with the sparkle, I can detect warmth in certain lighting. I wanted to ask how other people see color. I see warmth as a soft white color with these I colored stones. The feeling I get is different from my ering. I feel like I see lots of multicolored reflections from my ering, lots of sharply contrasting dark blue, light blue, pink, lavender and white sparkles. While on the earring I see mostly soft white and dark sparkles. I think some of that is due to the fact that the earring is 0.8 carats and the ering is 2.59. But I just get a different feel.

How do you see different colors? Do you see D-F as white and black contrasting? When do you start seeing warmth and what do you define as warmth? What do you see when you say a stone is "white"? Bright white? Soft white? I'm trying to understand more than just grading, what the eye actually perceives. And which do you prefer?

And for the record, I see the side of the stones quite a bit just because my ears lay pretty flat against my head and I easily see the side of the setting.

I posted a couple of pics taken in sunlight. These pics look sparkly to me, and bright, just not that white.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I don't know about your car, but my diamonds look worse in my car than anywhere else because of the tinted windows! So I don't recommend judging color from the car! My I color diamond will pick up environmental colors sometimes, but in natural daylight it is quite white. My studs are H, though, and I don't know if I'd go down one color or not. But I'd probably have to if I went to 1+ ct stones. All I can tell you is that I have seen mom2boys gorgeous studs, and I absolutely never saw ANY tint whatsoever (and they are also I color).

 

[LLJsmom]

I don't know about your car, but my diamonds look worse in my car than anywhere else because of the tinted windows! So I don't recommend judging color from the car! My I color diamond will pick up environmental colors sometimes, but in natural daylight it is quite white. My studs are H, though, and I don't know if I'd go down one color or not. But I'd probably have to if I went to 1+ ct stones. All I can tell you is that I have seen mom2boys gorgeous studs, and I absolutely never saw ANY tint whatsoever (and they are also I color).

Actually, I love seeing my ering in my car. The pics I just posted are t bad. I notice the tint in the bathroom where I also love the ering. I guess I am seeing the difference between an I and an F and I thought I would not even notice the warmth because of the cut. I see it when I am looking at the stones from an angle.

 

[MissGotRocks]

From these pictures, your stones look very white to me in your ears. I also still love the size in your earlobe.

How do the stones look color wise when compared side by side to your ering? I suspect because your ring is an F with medium blue beside an I color stone, you would see some color difference. On the hand and on the ear, I doubt you'd see that much of a difference. Everyone has their own color threshold and preference. My ering is a G and my other jewelry including studs are in the G-H or in the instance of my five stone F-G color range so for the most part, the color pretty much looks the same. Everything is in that mid range color area so I don't see much difference and I prefer it that way. Just remember though to compare your stones face up as that is the way people will see them in your ears and not necessarily from the side.

So many of us have traded jewelry lots of times and in those experiences, find our tolerances. I think I remember you saying that for many years you basically wore little diamond jewelry. You're just starting out so consider these earrings your first building block. Next time you might upgrade a bit in color, a bit in size - depending on the budget. It's difficult for most folks to get exactly what they want to be all at once. Everyone it seems is always saving and dreaming of something else so jump on the 'but the next time' bandwagon!!

 

[GreenBling]

To me, my F stone is bright white, it has no fluor but somehow seems to give off more blue than other color flashes. The table/crown height is 56%/15.5% crown/pavilion angles 34.5/41(GIA). ExExVG (symmetry).

I believe my I stone has more superior cut than the F. It is AGS0 H&A. The arrows are more sharp and symmetrical. It is not tinted but not white white either. It has more color to it for sure. When outdoor with day light, it is bright white just like the F (perhaps because of the medium fluor?) but otherwise the color does show, and it is not just from the side, it faces up differently than the F. I don't have to put them next to each other to notice the color difference. But then the I seems to give more colorful flashes. I also notice more yellow flashes which I don't remember seeing in the F.

To me, the F is always cheerful, alert, big bright smile no matter where she is. The I is more subtle, quiet and moody. The F is like sunrise, the I sunset, both beautiful but in different ways.

BTW, friends can't see the color I see in the I stone. Either they are being polite or I'm just self conscious knowing what I know. Would be very interested to hear how others view colors too!

 

[LLJsmom]

From these pictures, your stones look very white to me in your ears. I also still love the size in your earlobe.

How do the stones look color wise when compared side by side to your ering? I suspect because your ring is an F with medium blue beside an I color stone, you would see some color difference. On the hand and on the ear, I doubt you'd see that much of a difference. Everyone has their own color threshold and preference. My ering is a G and my other jewelry including studs are in the G-H or in the instance of my five stone F-G color range so for the most part, the color pretty much looks the same. Everything is in that mid range color area so I don't see much difference and I prefer it that way. Just remember though to compare your stones face up as that is the way people will see them in your ears and not necessarily from the side.

So many of us have traded jewelry lots of times and in those experiences, find our tolerances. I think I remember you saying that for many years you basically wore little diamond jewelry. You're just starting out so consider these earrings your first building block. Next time you might upgrade a bit in color, a bit in size - depending on the budget. It's difficult for most folks to get exactly what they want to be all at once. Everyone it seems is always saving and dreaming of something else so jump on the 'but the next time' bandwagon!!

Hi MGR, wise advice. I am just a newbie with diamonds and jewelry. I guess this is part if the process of discovering what I prefer. I tend to want to follow the crowd and am surprised when I don't have the same opinion as what it appears the majority on Pricescope prefer. I always wonder if I am doing something wrong. I've looked through the stud thread a zillion times and people seem to LOVE their I and J colored studs and I'm not there. That is why I am trying to understand.
I agree with you on the size. I do see why it appears big enough. Though, on the next upgrade, I will definitely go bigger. "I" want to be able to really see it.

 

[LLJsmom]

To me, my F stone is bright white, it has no fluor but somehow seems to give off more blue than other color flashes. The table/crown height is 56%/15.5% crown/pavilion angles 34.5/41(GIA). ExExVG (symmetry).

I believe my I stone has more superior cut than the F. It is AGS0 H&A. The arrows are more sharp and symmetrical. It is not tinted but not white white either. It has more color to it for sure. When outdoor with day light, it is bright white just like the F (perhaps because of the medium fluor?) but otherwise the color does show, and it is not just from the side, it faces up differently than the F. I don't have to put them next to each other to notice the color difference. But then the I seems to give more colorful flashes. I also notice more yellow flashes which I don't remember seeing in the F.

To me, the F is always cheerful, alert, big bright smile no matter where she is. The I is more subtle, quiet and moody. The F is like sunrise, the I sunset, both beautiful but in different ways.

BTW, friends can't see the color I see in the I stone. Either they are being polite or I'm just self conscious knowing what I know. Would be very interested to hear how others view colors too!

GreenBling, thanks for such a descriptive response on what you see and feel. That is a great way to describe the difference between the F and the I. Moody is a good way to describe the I. I am glad someone else sees the difference besides me. And yes, the bright whiteness of the F to me is all the time happy, except mine has medium blue fluor so it gets watery in bright sunlight.

And my I is better cut than the F I am sure. . I am in the same boat as you. Thanks again.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I can't do J color, either, in round brilliants or AVR's. The tint is visible to me. But I would do J in an AVC like mom2boys because the large facets and the slight tint look good in an antique cut cushion stone. I am sure no one else sees anything but white when they see your current studs. You are just seeing it because you are used to looking at a colorless stone on your hand. I color is just a real bargain and is great for people who are not too color sensitive. Those of us who are color sensitive suffer from the financial aspect!

 

[WillyDiamond]

Hi everyone, just checking in after a week of wearing my studs. I can say that for what they are, they are lovely and sparkly. I see now why so many PSers say that the size looks good for me. I only want bigger because I can't see them well but they look great if you don't have my perspective. I suspect that is why people want larger studs, so the wearer can see them better.

I think I am having issues with the color. I can definitely appreciate the sparkle. It does sparkle lots and lots. But even with the sparkle, I can detect warmth in certain lighting. I wanted to ask how other people see color. I see warmth as a soft white color with these I colored stones. The feeling I get is different from my ering. I feel like I see lots of multicolored reflections from my ering, lots of sharply contrasting dark blue, light blue, pink, lavender and white sparkles. While on the earring I see mostly soft white and dark sparkles. I think some of that is due to the fact that the earring is 0.8 carats and the ering is 2.59. But I just get a different feel.

How do you see different colors? Do you see D-F as white and black contrasting? When do you start seeing warmth and what do you define as warmth? What do you see when you say a stone is "white"? Bright white? Soft white? I'm trying to understand more than just grading, what the eye actually perceives. And which do you prefer?

And for the record, I see the side of the stones quite a bit just because my ears lay pretty flat against my head and I easily see the side of the setting.

I posted a couple of pics taken in sunlight. These pics look sparkly to me, and bright, just not that white.

I don't see color, only nice and white and they are nice size for your ears.
I have offered my wife diamond studs, she won't pierce her ears.
Can somebody have a talk with her? ha ha

 

[MissGotRocks]

From these pictures, your stones look very white to me in your ears. I also still love the size in your earlobe.

How do the stones look color wise when compared side by side to your ering? I suspect because your ring is an F with medium blue beside an I color stone, you would see some color difference. On the hand and on the ear, I doubt you'd see that much of a difference. Everyone has their own color threshold and preference. My ering is a G and my other jewelry including studs are in the G-H or in the instance of my five stone F-G color range so for the most part, the color pretty much looks the same. Everything is in that mid range color area so I don't see much difference and I prefer it that way. Just remember though to compare your stones face up as that is the way people will see them in your ears and not necessarily from the side.

So many of us have traded jewelry lots of times and in those experiences, find our tolerances. I think I remember you saying that for many years you basically wore little diamond jewelry. You're just starting out so consider these earrings your first building block. Next time you might upgrade a bit in color, a bit in size - depending on the budget. It's difficult for most folks to get exactly what they want to be all at once. Everyone it seems is always saving and dreaming of something else so jump on the 'but the next time' bandwagon!!

Hi MGR, wise advice. I am just a newbie with diamonds and jewelry. I guess this is part if the process of discovering what I prefer. I tend to want to follow the crowd and am surprised when I don't have the same opinion as what it appears the majority on Pricescope prefer. I always wonder if I am doing something wrong. I've looked through the stud thread a zillion times and people seem to LOVE their I and J colored studs and I'm not there. That is why I am trying to understand.
I agree with you on the size. I do see why it appears big enough. Though, on the next upgrade, I will definitely go bigger. "I" want to be able to really see it.

Rome wasn't built in a day and neither is a jewelry wardrobe. These stones are pricey - I always joke that I wish I liked to collect teddy bears or something - SO much cheaper! But no luck - the cute bears don't do a thing for me - lol! You will eventually get to where you want to be. If we didn't have to pay mortgages and educations and such, we could have all had exactly what we wanted from jump. Unfortunately, we do have to factor in all of these other costs so we do what we can when we can. Sometimes the anticipation is just as exciting or more so than actually receiving a piece of jewelry. Crazy, huh? There is a definite learning curve as you go and you will find out what you prefer. People that don't mind color in stones are really fortunate IMO - they get much more bang for the buck. Some find they only have limited funds so they need to be happy with just what they can do. It's all a mixed bag and I don't think you are doing anything wrong - just finding your own way in the sea of diamonds! For now though, you have respectable sized studs that are very well cut and sparkly. Enjoy - even if you know it's not the end of the journey for you!

 

[LLJsmom]

Hi everyone, just checking in after a week of wearing my studs. I can say that for what they are, they are lovely and sparkly. I see now why so many PSers say that the size looks good for me. I only want bigger because I can't see them well but they look great if you don't have my perspective. I suspect that is why people want larger studs, so the wearer can see them better.

I think I am having issues with the color. I can definitely appreciate the sparkle. It does sparkle lots and lots. But even with the sparkle, I can detect warmth in certain lighting. I wanted to ask how other people see color. I see warmth as a soft white color with these I colored stones. The feeling I get is different from my ering. I feel like I see lots of multicolored reflections from my ering, lots of sharply contrasting dark blue, light blue, pink, lavender and white sparkles. While on the earring I see mostly soft white and dark sparkles. I think some of that is due to the fact that the earring is 0.8 carats and the ering is 2.59. But I just get a different feel.

How do you see different colors? Do you see D-F as white and black contrasting? When do you start seeing warmth and what do you define as warmth? What do you see when you say a stone is "white"? Bright white? Soft white?

I don't see color, only nice and white and they are nice size for your ears.
I have offered my wife diamond studs, she won't pierce her ears.
Can somebody have a talk with her? ha ha

Thanks Willy. I'm just starting to understand that people really do see/don't see color differently. I do see color in the photo and in various other lighting and you don't. I am learning that I just have to go by what I see. News flash huh? I think at the back of my mind I thought everyone saw the color but just didn't mind it. It takes a while for things to sink in with me. I'm dense that way.

As for your wife, I dare you to buy her a pair of studs from WF and see if she will go pierce her ears. Worst case you can always return it. . I pierced my ears half a year ago and I'm 42. . No regrets!!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Well, with so many people wearing fake studs, a teensy bit of warmth may be a good thing

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Well, with so many people wearing fake studs, a teensy bit of warmth may be a good thing

Good point, Dreamer! And I still say, just wear fakes if you really want a larger size in colorless!

 

[baby monster]

Well, with so many people wearing fake studs, a teensy bit of warmth may be a good thing

Good point, Dreamer! And I still say, just wear fakes if you really want a larger size in colorless!

But even the fakes are often very dirty so can't really see color after all.

 

[baby monster]

I do see color in the photo and in various other lighting and you don't. I am learning that I just have to go by what I see. News flash huh? I think at the back of my mind I thought everyone saw the color but just didn't mind it.

The stones in your photos look white to me but I'm not very color sensitive. I have I solitaire, J earrings and F-G eternity. I don't see the difference in color between solitaire and eternity. I do see the body color in earrings but still don't mind it. They just have a tinge of cream when I look at them in my hand but not on the ears. No difference in color play either stones produce.

FWIW, I see higher colors like DEF as bluer or grayer not whiter than HI.

 

[m-2-b]

They look nice to me but I guess I'm not as color sensitive as I had originally thought!

As I mentioned in your other thread, how about switching to studs w/ some fluoro in them?

 

[LLJsmom]

They look nice to me but I guess I'm not as color sensitive as I had originally thought!

As I mentioned in your other thread, how about switching to studs w/ some fluoro in them?

Mom2boys, that's a good idea. I'll look into it.

 

[LLJsmom]

I do see color in the photo and in various other lighting and you don't. I am learning that I just have to go by what I see. News flash huh? I think at the back of my mind I thought everyone saw the color but just didn't mind it.

The stones in your photos look white to me but I'm not very color sensitive. I have I solitaire, J earrings and F-G eternity. I don't see the difference in color between solitaire and eternity. I do see the body color in earrings but still don't mind it. They just have a tinge of cream when I look at them in my hand but not on the ears. No difference in color play either stones produce.

FWIW, I see higher colors like DEF as bluer or grayer not whiter than HI.

Baby monster, yes I see what you mean about blue and gray. I do too. Those colors feel cooler to me. I associate yellow and cream with warmth.

 

[m-2-b]

They look nice to me but I guess I'm not as color sensitive as I had originally thought!

As I mentioned in your other thread, how about switching to studs w/ some fluoro in them?

Mom2boys, that's a good idea. I'll look into it.

Take a look at this thread that may be of interest to you:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/2-41ctw-j-i1-studs-from-idj-with-sb-fluor.181009/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/2-41ctw-j-i1-studs-from-idj-with-sb-fluor.181009/[/URL]

 

[baby monster]

They look nice to me but I guess I'm not as color sensitive as I had originally thought!

As I mentioned in your other thread, how about switching to studs w/ some fluoro in them?

Mom2boys, that's a good idea. I'll look into it.

Take a look at this thread that may be of interest to you:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/2-41ctw-j-i1-studs-from-idj-with-sb-fluor.181009/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/2-41ctw-j-i1-studs-from-idj-with-sb-fluor.181009/[/URL]

Oh boy. This thread makes me want to call up IDJ to upgrade my studs.

 

[heididdl]

I don't ever really see any difference in my stones in different lighting . I'm not exactly sure my color as they are EGL stones so they are suppose to be F so I assume they are I?... Independant appraiser said H. But local jeweler said J... My friends all comment that they look so white and they all have no idea about diamond color scale .. Bottom line I love my studs whether they are F or J.

 

[heididdl]

They look nice to me but I guess I'm not as color sensitive as I had originally thought!

As I mentioned in your other thread, how about switching to studs w/ some fluoro in them?

Mom2boys, that's a good idea. I'll look into it.

Take a look at this thread that may be of interest to you:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/2-41ctw-j-i1-studs-from-idj-with-sb-fluor.181009/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/2-41ctw-j-i1-studs-from-idj-with-sb-fluor.181009/[/URL]

Thanks for that thread it makes me feel better about my EGL stones. I love my earrings and sometimes feel I should have bought GIAStones but I never could have gotten the size I did. So I bought th EGL F SI1 which are really. GIA HSi1 and one is I si2...

 

[LLJsmom]

They look nice to me but I guess I'm not as color sensitive as I had originally thought!

As I mentioned in your other thread, how about switching to studs w/ some fluoro in them?

Mom2boys, that's a good idea. I'll look into it.

Take a look at this thread that may be of interest to you:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/2-41ctw-j-i1-studs-from-idj-with-sb-fluor.181009/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/2-41ctw-j-i1-studs-from-idj-with-sb-fluor.181009/[/URL]

The studs in this thread look amazing. Really substantial and blingy. There is a thread somewhere with donnabrsd's that are a little over 1.5 each. I LOVE those.

So what's totally interesting is the type of sparkle I get from the WF H&A stones. I really like them, and would like to stick with them. I would love to own a 1+ carat is these amazing cuts. The sparkle is so different from the ering. I think that is primarily due to the size difference. I realize how little experience I have with diamonds when each one seems to speak to me differently.

I try to imagine a big stone, like your BGD which is over 3.5, with this kind of cut IRL. It must be amazing...

 

[LLJsmom]

Rome wasn't built in a day and neither is a jewelry wardrobe. These stones are pricey - I always joke that I wish I liked to collect teddy bears or something - SO much cheaper! But no luck - the cute bears don't do a thing for me - lol! You will eventually get to where you want to be. If we didn't have to pay mortgages and educations and such, we could have all had exactly what we wanted from jump. Unfortunately, we do have to factor in all of these other costs so we do what we can when we can. Sometimes the anticipation is just as exciting or more so than actually receiving a piece of jewelry. Crazy, huh? There is a definite learning curve as you go and you will find out what you prefer. People that don't mind color in stones are really fortunate IMO - they get much more bang for the buck. Some find they only have limited funds so they need to be happy with just what they can do. It's all a mixed bag and I don't think you are doing anything wrong - just finding your own way in the sea of diamonds! For now though, you have respectable sized studs that are very well cut and sparkly. Enjoy - even if you know it's not the end of the journey for you!

MGR, I am starting to realize how true this is. And to us regular mortals that have a budget, (I kinda forget that on PS.) we will need to prioritize and be patient, and figure out what is actually worth spending money on. And, on top of that, I am the kind of girl that plans for the long run too. With my recent craze over jewelry and all the drool-worthy pieces posted here, I forget to plan and be wise about my decisions. I want end up with stones and pieces that I will want to keep forever and pass down to my children and grandchildren. And it may take multiple upgrades to get there, but I should focus on the ultimate goal. Thank you MGR, for the timely reminder, and helping me see the bigger picture.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Well, with so many people wearing fake studs, a teensy bit of warmth may be a good thing

Good point, Dreamer! And I still say, just wear fakes if you really want a larger size in colorless!

But even the fakes are often very dirty so can't really see color after all.

Fakes still look very stark white and when dirty, flat.

I always wonder and question if studs are real when they look too white or too big (compared to norms where I live) so for me a little warmth and modest size would be important. I had dinner with a young woman wearing lovely studs about 1cttw and a pendant solitaire about 1ct and they looked so lovely and classy! She was Californian. Where I love no one wears nice diamonds so it was a treat to see her set. Anyway my point is that I want my diamonds on my ears to look tasteful and real!

 

[LLJsmom]

Well, with so many people wearing fake studs, a teensy bit of warmth may be a good thing

Good point, Dreamer! And I still say, just wear fakes if you really want a larger size in colorless!

But even the fakes are often very dirty so can't really see color after all.

Fakes still look very stark white and when dirty, flat.

I always wonder and question if studs are real when they look too white or too big (compared to norms where I live) so for me a little warmth and modest size would be important. I had dinner with a young woman wearing lovely studs about 1cttw and a pendant solitaire about 1ct and they looked so lovely and classy! She was Californian. Where I love no one wears nice diamonds so it was a treat to see her set. Anyway my point is that I want my diamonds on my ears to look tasteful and real!

I've heard another jeweler say that before. When the stone is so white-white, they don't look real. I have the pair of fakies from the original piercing, and they're white, but no sparkle. Dead. So no wannabes for me...

Well, sadly, since I love white-white MRBs, and I want sparkly, just means I'll have to have a great cut and high color. ***sigh*** Just makes it more expensive for me. (The real challenge is affording it all.) I'm discovering that I like what I like. Bigger, white-white with lots of sparkle is plenty real for me. I'm totally fine with people wondering if it's real. Doesn't bother me. I know it is, and that's what counts.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Return these and get a mate for you original wring that I1 you liked or another, who cares, just get what you want. Don't talk yourself into anything.