Price for Diamond and Sapphire Target Ring

[Seagoat]

Hi - new poster here. After a fairly exhaustive search I think I've found an amazing engagement ring. Problem is I don't know what a fair price is, and I'm keen not to overpay. Here are the specs, and an image is attached - any back-of-the-napkin price guidance would be very much appreciated!

Style Platinum Octagonal Art Deco Diamond and Sapphire Engagement Ring
Main Diamond Old European Cut 1.64 Carat Center Stone
Carat Total Weight 2.62 Ctw
Accent Diamond Details .12ctw of Micro-Pave Set Round Diamonds on Shank
Sapphire Approximately 0.86ctw of Ceylon Sapphires
Diamond Color K/L
Main Diamond Clarity VS
Ring Measurements 12.05mm (Height) x 2 mm (Shank Width)
Mounting Details Stone is Bezel Set in a Platinum Setting
Total Weight 2.7dwt (4.3g)

Thank you very much!

RK

 

[Seagoat]

I should note that the diamond is not certified, and they are asking $14K for the ring...hence my concern about making sure I do it right.

Thanks in advance for any help!

 

[Rockinruby]

I would have difficulty purchasing an uncerted stone in that price range without knowing the vendor. You have no idea if the stone is actually a much lower graded color, but maybe some others will chime in who may be more comfortable with it. I am not opposed to lower graded colors IF that is what I choose to purchase, but for that cost I'd like to know what I'm getting. Does the seller have good reviews? A good return policy if you get it independently appraised and it isn't as advertised? If its sized or tweaked is it considered as customized and therefore non returnable? Could be a great deal, but hopefully you will get better info from the more experienced posters as to what they think. Review some of the diamonds on this link as it may give you an idea of cost of comparable stones.
http://www.jewelsbygrace.com/loose-diamonds/1-ct-to-2-00

 

[baby monster]

There's the problem with buying uncerted. You don't have confirmed stats so it's difficult to judge whether it's a fair price. This is a fairly common design though. Why not work with a PS vendor to get a certed stone and put it in a sapphire halo setting?

 

[Seagoat]

Thank you both! It's quite likely that my searching skills are not up to par, but I really struggled to find that design with a new, non-vintage, setting anywhere - the best I've found is in Dublin, IE, but the store sadly doesn't offer returns, only exchanges, which seems to much of a risk: http://weldons.ie/shop/sapphire-and-diamond-cluster/ (they offer in 1 and 1.25 ct as well)

We have found a couple places that offered it, but the sapphires were very light blue, which neither of us liked (pic attached)

If anyone knows of a shop that could produce that ring with a higher-color certed stone and has a darker sapphire rim I would LOVE a lead. My challenge is I'm trying to do this relatively quickly and I'd rather avoid a 6-week+ wait. Thank you so much!

RK

 

[baby monster]

Are you set on a bezel halo or would a prong halo work too?
http://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/engagement-rings/halo/14k-white-gold-french-blue-sapphire-engagement-ring-item-50699

 

[baby monster]

Also take a look at BE's royal chandelier collection.
http://www.brilliantlyengaged.com/royal-chandelier-vintage-pcid-44.html

 

[LvChnl]

There is a shop in NY, Maximira on 45th street, they mostly work with other jewelers, so it is a word of mouth "hidden gem". In my experience they have worked wonders with my budget and demands and the quality of work is exceptional. I recently commissioned an Art Deco style ring from them with a GIA certified 1.53ct stone K color VS clarity for under 8k. Give it a google and see if they can help you. Good luck

 

[Niel]

Beverly k makes target rings similar to those, reproductions....

Pair that with an old cut or a reproduction old cut and I think you could get the same look for the same or less.

 

[Seagoat]

Thank you! Am I imagining that the Beverly K rings have lighter sapphires?

http://www.beverleyk.com/engagement-rings/r9467-a-d-s-m.html

 

[Niel]

Thank you! Am I imagining that the Beverly K rings have lighter sapphires?

http://www.beverleyk.com/engagement-rings/r9467-a-d-s-m.html

I think they use a nice medium color,someone gas a ring from them on here let me see if I can find the thread

 

[PintoBean]

Which Pricescope vendors sell beverley k settings?

 

[Niel]

Which Pricescope vendors sell beverley k settings?

Pearlmas does as well as good old gold.

 

[Seagoat]

Thanks Baby Monster! Word from the chief is that we are set on a bezel halo, but thank you for the suggestion of James Allen.

 

[Niel]

Thanks Baby Monster! Word from the chief is that we are set on a bezel halo, but thank you for the suggestion of James Allen.

Hey, what's your budget? Is it 14k? Are you in the uk? I've been looking around but I don't want to suggest things that are out of range.

 

[Seagoat]

Thanks for the help Niel! Ideally I'd like to be around $12K, but I don't want to be too rigid!

 

[Rockinruby]

Not sure of your budget, but a custom ring would be a great option. Although I think you mentioned not wanting to wait several weeks?

I recently saw this line at a local jewelry store. They only had a couple of settings with sapphires, but I don't recall them being light. It is possible they could be somewhat customized? Just a thought since you may not have time for a handforged custom piece. I think IDJ caries this line?
https://eshop.gabrielny.com/product...-IL-LB-LD-LP-LX-RM-SA-SB-SC-TA-TB-TC-XL-XT-XU
https://eshop.gabrielny.com/product/ER11587R0W44SA
https://eshop.gabrielny.com/product...-IL-LB-LD-LP-LX-RM-SA-SB-SC-TA-TB-TC-XL-XT-XU

 

[Seagoat]

I''m based in Boston, MA!

 

[Niel]

What do you think of this? It's a little smaller but still 7mm, is Gia graded, nice clarity and color

http://www.jewelsbygrace.com/loose-diamonds/1-ct-to-2-00/1-36ct-old-european-cut-diamond-gia-j-vs1#.VaVcar3D_qA

 

[FightGravity]

Is there a particular reason you're avoiding vintage? A calibre/French cut sapphire halo is a classic Art Deco style and I bet Lang Antiques, or another vintage seller, would have some in good shape (their site seems to not be working correctly at the moment but I know I've seen them there before).

The style is lovely - your girlfriend has good taste

 

[FightGravity]

I found 2 at lang - both a bit smaller, than the original you posted, 1.13 and 1.15 centers. Well under budget. They might have more if you call.

(Feel free to ignore if you absolutely positively won't do vintage.) The second one, with the hexagonal halo, is really lovely, IMO.


http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-6794

http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-7088

 

[Seagoat]

Thanks guys! We started the search with vintage in mind, but there's an emotional quality to having "someone else's" ring that doesn't resonate with her. So we decided vintage style was the way to go - all the fun of the look with a setting that hasn't made its own stories yet!

But it does complicate the search, and I agree that the vintage ones are beautiful.

 

[Niel]

Thanks guys! We started the search with vintage in mind, but there's an emotional quality to having "someone else's" ring that doesn't resonate with her. So we decided vintage style was the way to go - all the fun of the look with a setting that hasn't made it's own stories yet!

But it does complicate the search, and I agree that the vintage ones are beautiful.

Oh, I'm sorry, no vintage at all or just no vintage setting.
Would you consider a used diamond? If not, does she care if the target ring has a modern cut?

Also, does it need to be round.

 

[Seagoat]

No vintage setting. The diamond we're flexible on - could go old cut or modern! The major requirement vs. what we've seen so far is darker sapphires than many seem to offer. (The Lang rings have perfect color sapphires!)

Round is definitely the top choice.

 

[Niel]

No vintage setting. The diamond we're flexible on - could go old cut or modern! The major requirement vs. what we've seen so far is darker sapphires than many seem to offer. (The Lang rings have perfect color sapphires!)

Round is definitely the top choice.

In my opinion the images you see of the sapphire are going to be in the best lighting. In other lightings the sapphires will look darker.