Pretty setting for a side inclusion

[TweetyBird23]

Any recommendations for a pretty, dainty solitaire setting that would hide this unsightly side inclusion? Stone is eyeclean from the top and taken at her worst angle. Prefer 6 over 4 prongs. Not keen on full bezel. Perhaps a basket setting?

 

[Lorelei]

If you click on this link Tweety, then go to photos, it shows the lovely side view with a piece of metal running between the prongs which might do it if you can find a similar style setting for a round diamond.

http://www.since1910.com/1007-vatche-solitaire-engagement-ring-w-pave-basket

The only thing is if the inclusion reflects, how much does it show around the stone?

Whiteflash Swan.

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...n-solitaire-engagement-ring-by-vatche-310.htm

 

[Lorelei]

Here you go, this is the view.

 

[TweetyBird23]

Oh, I love the double prongs, Lorelei!

The vendor says it’s eyeclean from the top 6-8 inches away but I’m not sure about the side. Here are links with 2 different videos:

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab

https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/H-SI1-Affinity-Cut-Round-Diamond/D41530589

My ring fund is ready but I’m a bit traumatized from my last “help me find a stone” thread that lasted an eternity, so I figured I’d find a couple stones within my new budget (24k) that I personally liked before seeking opinions again lol.

I dream of a well cut eye clean 2.5 H and want to purchase from BN so I can apply 100% of my original diamond’s price. BN will price match the stone from $25.9k to $23.8k so I’m wondering if it’s worth considering since it is eyeclean from the top.

 

[TweetyBird23]

I like that setting! think it would be prettier and have more of a “flow” to pave the entire crown.

 

[Lorelei]

Oh, I love the double prongs, Lorelei!

The vendor says it’s eyeclean from the top 6-8 inches away but I’m not sure about the side. Here are links with 2 different videos:

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab

https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/H-SI1-Affinity-Cut-Round-Diamond/D41530589

My ring fund is ready but I’m a bit traumatized from my last “help me find a stone” thread that lasted an eternity, so I figured I’d find a couple stones within my new budget (24k) that I personally liked before seeking opinions again lol.

I dream of a well cut eye clean 2.5 H and want to purchase from BN so I can apply 100% of my original diamond’s price. BN will price match the stone to $23.8k so I’m wondering if it’s worth considering since it is eyeclean from the top.

Understood but please don't worry on our account if a thread gets long, all we are concerned with is helping you find what you're looking for!

The diamond looks good, what you'd need to do is ask if the inclusion is very visible from the side and if it does reflect around the stone. Otherwise as much as you try to hide the inclusion with the setting, it might pop out cheerfully waving from another part of the stone! The vendors normally consider the matter of ' eye cleanliness' from the top view only, so be as specific as you can. I think this diamond's well worth considering.

 

[TweetyBird23]

That’s great to hear! My current stone is an eyeclean 1.61 H SI2 with side inclusions and it doesn’t really bother me so I think I can live with a side birthmark in a 2.5 H SI1.

I’ll ask them if the inclusion reflects around the stone.

 

[Lorelei]

That’s great to hear! My current stone is an eyeclean 1.61 H SI2 with side inclusions and it doesn’t really bother me so I think I can live with a side birthmark in a 2.5 H SI1.

I’ll ask them if the inclusion reflects around the stone.

I think that's the main thing here is the potential for reflection, keep us posted and I bet Rocky will be along with some other options for you, she's good with settings too.

 

[TweetyBird23]

Did you see the Adiamor 360 video and if so, can you tell if the inclusion is being reflected from just certain angles? Or is this something that needs to be evaluated in person?

I took a second look at the setting you suggested and didn’t even realize the stone was a cushion the first time around. Even with glasses, I often mistake a diamond’s shape— my eyes are far from a 30x loupe!

 

[TweetyBird23]

I’ll ask and will probably hear back from them after the weekend. I’ve been told that there are no good deals in diamonds but even if it comes back as having visible side inclusions, is $23.8k a “good” price for a 2.51 H SI1 given its color and cut?

 

[rockysalamander]

Since you have only one inclusion, you can use a bar or gallery detail as @Lorelei wisely suggested.
But, I'd worry it may not be in the "right" place. When set, if you ensure they rotate that inclusion to between the shoulders and make sure you have a higher shoulder. The shoulder can be a higher cathedral or side stones (or both!).

https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...pave-adorned-crown-engagement-ring-item-63076
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...ellis-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-item-50130

These also would work.
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...ngle-shank-solitaire-engagement-ring-3811.htm
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...dern-tulip-diamond-engagement-ring-item-50671

David Klass could make a more petally version like below. But, I'd have the lower struts of the petals widened and rotate the inclusion to the shoulders.

The most "safe" would be something like this CVB Chloe or Elsa. The inclusion could be fully blocked by all angle of view from the double prongs and you have that detail in the gallery to admire.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/262961...-victorian-elsa-style?ref=shop_home_active_62

TGP's Resistance is super affordable and that gallery detail would make seeing any inclusion hard.
https://thegemstoneproject.com/the-resistance/

 

[TweetyBird23]

Oh my gosh, rocky, the Elsa is tdf. More impressive is your savvy on settings. You have a gift!

Do you think the cathedral shoulders on the Elsa are structurally necessary?

 

[TweetyBird23]

I just saw the Chloe. Wow. I think it would look very smart in platinum!

 

[Octo2005]

Oh my gosh, rocky, the Elsa is tdf. More impressive is your savvy on settings. You have a gift!

Do you think the cathedral shoulders on the Elsa are structurally necessary?

I am not sure that they are structurally necessary, but they are very subtle and from the top read more as just pave on the band, if you are worried about them being distracting

 

[TweetyBird23]

Do you see any Blue Nile settings that would do the trick? Their selection is rather limited.

 

[twang07]

I just saw the Chloe. Wow. I think it would look very smart in platinum!

I love the profile of the Chloe it's very beautiful! I'm just not 100% sure it'll cover the entire side because the diamond is still a bit more exposed than in the Elsa. I only have the shank and the profile in my Chloe and switched up the basket to Zoe, so it is possible to merge different styles from CvB to meet your stones needs.

 

[TweetyBird23]

The fine double prongs on the Chloe though!

 

[TweetyBird23]

I love the profile of the Chloe it's very beautiful! I'm just not 100% sure it'll cover the entire side because the diamond is still a bit more exposed than in the Elsa. I only have the shank and the profile in my Chloe and switched up the basket to Zoe, so it is possible to merge different styles from CvB to meet your stones needs.

Thanks for your input, twang! Do you have pics of your setting?

 

[twang07]

Thanks for your input, twang! Do you have pics of your setting?

Sure do I was really into octagon shapes so I wanted to Zoe but I loved everything about the Chloe too so I merged them.

 

[twang07]

I think a merge between the dahlia petal basket and the shank of the chloe might be interesting! I seriously couldn't decide cause she has soooo many beautiful settings!
https://www.etsy.com/listing/237538...a_search_query=dahlia&ref=shop_items_search_1

 

[TweetyBird23]

Sure do I was really into octagon shapes so I wanted to Zoe but I loved everything about the Chloe too so I merged them.

Gorgeous ring, twang!!

If I do a custom setting, I think I might need those double prongs in my life. The side profile of Chloe covers a lot and is perhaps too low for the stone’s inclusion. A double prong with a “netted” basket like yours might do the trick.

 

[twang07]

The Sienna has that double claw four prong. https://www.etsy.com/listing/262253185/the-cvb-id-double-claw-prong-sienna?ref=listing-shop-header-2

I feel like I can envision a design that could add a more detailed basket around the girdle while still keeping the prongs either with a bar or some kind of netting. I really do see very little of the underside of my diamond with the basket, I just see metal. I do warn though, it's pretty hard to clean, I kind of jam a brush in there but it's not easy, I'm sure I'm not getting everything but I really can't tell without a high-powered dissection microscope!

This quickly gets out of my artistic capabilities. Caysie is probably very good in that department. Just make sure the inclusion doesn't reflect and I'm sure she can think of a nice way to hide it that preserves elements you desire in your ring!

 

[TweetyBird23]

@rockysalamander @Lorelei l asked BN to request a side visual from the vendor. Based on the two videos and this picture, can’t we already see that the crystal is reflected multiple times around the stone from this angle? Or did you want to know if it reflects that way just from that angle or from all side angles?

If it does reflect multiple times from all side angles but is eye clean from the top, is the stone still worth considering given its cut, size and color at $23.8k? The top is so pretty!

 

[Lorelei]

@rockysalamander @Lorelei l asked BN to request a side visual from the vendor. Based on the two videos and this picture, can’t we already see that the crystal is reflected multiple times around the stone from this angle? Or did you want to know if it reflects that way just from that angle or from all side angles?

If it does reflect multiple times from all side angles but is eye clean from the top, is the stone still worth considering given its cut, size and color at $23.8k? The top is so pretty!

That's what I was wondering but I didn't want to judge just from a photo and I couldn't really see the reflections in the video. It's definitely worth considering if it does reflect but it depends on if that would bother you or not. It's a beautiful diamond and big, it just depends on your comfort level, I just didn't want you to get it and if the inclusion was coverable, that you'd see it from another angle in a reflection.

 

[TweetyBird23]

That's what I was wondering but I didn't want to judge just from a photo and I couldn't really see the reflections in the video. It's definitely worth considering if it does reflect but it depends on if that would bother you or not. It's a beautiful diamond and big, it just depends on your comfort level, I just didn't want you to get it and if the inclusion was coverable, that you'd see it from another angle in a reflection.

Sounds good! I would rather have an eye clean (from the top) H SI1 over an I VS2 so I’ll wait for the vendor to inspect the sides. Thank you!

 

[Lorelei]

Sounds good! I would rather have an eye clean (from the top) H SI1 over an I VS2 so I’ll wait for the vendor to inspect the sides. Thank you!

Sounds like a plan and please report back!

 

[TweetyBird23]

Will do, Lorelei!

This one would work too, right @rockysalamander? It incorporates a bunch of elements I appreciate in a simple solitaire: Tiffany knife edge, double prongs and has the side bar you and Lorelei suggested. Cool design and very affordable in platinum. I read double prongs need a skilled bench to execute well. Whiteflash carries the setting and if they set Ritani rings in-house, I bet they would do a killer job with the placement.

https://www.ritani.com/engagement-r...e-edge-tulip-engagement-ring-in-platinum/5669

 

[rockysalamander]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BibM0zHFlhs/

I follow this jeweller. Her work looks great.

 

[TweetyBird23]

I still haven't heard back from the vendor and am attributing it to the Mother's Day jewelry rush! Since it's eye clean from the top, I think I'm willing to give this stone a shot and see it in person. Is there even a worthy 2.5 H alternative in Blue Nile's inventory that's under 30k?

 

[ac117]

I still haven't heard back from the vendor and am attributing it to the Mother's Day jewelry rush! Since it's eye clean from the top, I think I'm willing to give this stone a shot and see it in person. Is there even a worthy 2.5 H alternative in Blue Nile's inventory that's under 30k?

Stunning stone, safe clarity and color but pricey: https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab

You'd have to ask if this is eye clean and if there are any transparency issues but at least the inclusions are white: https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab