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Pouching phones in class

kenny

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Rather than locking the phones up during class, the teachers should have the authority (including support from all parents) to put penalties in place for any kid with a phone out during class. There will always be distractions and things you could do instead of what you should. It seems like a better solution to teach kids to be responsible. May be more effort initially, but better in the long run.

I remember when I was in high school the teachers would take it if they saw it. First time you got it back at the end of the class. Second time was end of the day but a note went home for a parent to sign and return acknowledging they got the notice the kid had it out again. After that, the teacher kept it until a parent came to pick it up. Most people in my class had phones but you never knew it!
 
My best friend, who died a few months ago, was a teacher in a college.
She told me there is no hope; it's gone too far.

Today the young are addicted to social media on their phones like crack cocaine.
Teachers are powerless, and no matter what a teacher does, there is no hope.

Addicts can't be reasoned with.
Social media is cleverly designed to addict people.
 
Hmmm...

It is ok to judge those who are living with the disease of addiction? When did this happen?
 
:roll:
 
TooPatient said:
Rather than locking the phones up during class, the teachers should have the authority (including support from all parents) to put penalties in place for any kid with a phone out during class. There will always be distractions and things you could do instead of what you should. It seems like a better solution to teach kids to be responsible. May be more effort initially, but better in the long run.

I remember when I was in high school the teachers would take it if they saw it. First time you got it back at the end of the class. Second time was end of the day but a note went home for a parent to sign and return acknowledging they got the notice the kid had it out again. After that, the teacher kept it until a parent came to pick it up. Most people in my class had phones but you never knew it!
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That's how my son's HS does it too (like TooPatient's school). One teacher did have one of those accessory organizers that hangs from a hanger.
All the empty slots were numbered and at the beginning of class kids had to put their phones in the slots and were able to pick them up after class.
If I were the teacher, I personally would not want to be responsible for the phones while they were hanging in the organizer. I would rather just
take it if I saw one and lock it in a drawer. I think kids should learn restraint and know there is a time and place to get your phone out. Its something
they need to learn.
 
My niece turned 12 today and my sister and BIL gave her this past December her very first mobile phone. She is not allowed to take it to school and not allowed to text or answer it if she doesn’t know the number of the person who is texting/calling. She has a limited number of contacts she is allowed to correspond with and I’m sure my sister and BIL will monitor and make sure she doesn’t over use the phone. My point is technology is great when used correctly. There is a time and a place. Class is not that place. And I agree with Kenny and others here in that we are a society addicted and it shows in how we communicate with others. IMO.
 
I'm a secondary/high school teacher, at my school they have decided that the rule is now that phones are off and in the bags during the day. There are some students complain, saying the phones are more likely to get damaged/stolen while in their bags as opposed to the pockets But it has reduced the amount of disruption to lessons over phone misuse.
I do like the idea of the pouches so they can't use them though. My DF came up with an idea for a "school mode" like airplane mode that allows them to use the phone for approved apps etc.
 
Oh I'm definitely addicted to this and a couple other fora ... on my computer ... at home ... in my free time.
... I could give it up any time ... HAHAHA ... NOT! :liar:

This thread is about students who can't function as students in class because of their addiction to their 'smart'phones ... and what teachers/schools can do about it since clearly the parents deserve a big fat F.
 
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I feel for teachers. I don't know how they stand it.

I would be interested to hear from non-US folks how it is handled in other countries. My guess is that classrooms are cell phone free?
 
I was in high school as mobiles were just starting to be available/common but very few of us had them as they were expensive! I can't speak for other schools but our was a strict no-phone policy which meant if you got caught they would confiscate it and only return it to your parents after an embarrassing phone call....:shock: You can imagine no one ever did that twice! :shifty: From what I've heard now - it's still no phones, you can keep it on silent in your locker and check at break times only.
 
At my son's school they have to be left at the office in the morning and collected there in the afternoon. If they are caught with them them they get taken to the office anyway.
 
kenny said:
My best friend, who died a few months ago, was a teacher in a college.
She told me there is no hope; it's gone too far.

Today the young are addicted to social media on their phones like crack cocaine.
Teachers are powerless, and no matter what a teacher does, there is no hope.

Addicts can't be reasoned with.
Social media is cleverly designed to addict people.
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Not sure what I would do if I were a college professor. The kids should be mature enough to know that their education cost big $$$ and if they
want to learn anything they had better pay attention (and not be checking their phones). I'm sure I'm giving them too much credit though.
I think if I saw students on their phone a lot before the drop date I would probably invite them to drop the class. Hint...hint

Or, do you just let it go because its their money they are wasting?
 
Elizabeth35 said:
I feel for teachers. I don't know how they stand it.

I would be interested to hear from non-US folks how it is handled in other countries. My guess is that classrooms are cell phone free?
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I'm in the UK - in theory the classrooms are phone free, but some are sneaky. I answered previously about my school getting stricter on phones.
 
tyty333 said:
Not sure what I would do if I were a college professor. The kids should be mature enough to know that their education cost big $$$ and if they
want to learn anything they had better pay attention (and not be checking their phones). I'm sure I'm giving them too much credit though.
I think if I saw students on their phone a lot before the drop date I would probably invite them to drop the class. Hint...hint

Or, do you just let it go because its their money they are wasting?
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As long as it isn't making a bunch of noise or something, I figure it is their money to waste and future to potentially jeopardize. I have seen students ask others in the class to close laptops or move to the back if they are constantly streaming videos and causing distraction to others.

Laptops are common (and in my program required) and at least as distracting as phones. We all have to learn to focus on what we need to and manage ourselves.

I am one of those who often has my cell phone sitting on the desk next to my laptop, usually with the display on. It is set to silent so no noise is made if anyone calls or messages come in. Why? Because I had to be able to reply quickly if the kid needed something. I also have had to be reachable by DH (such as the day he was laid off and needed me to pick him up ASAP from his place of work since we share a car), my doctor (had a cancellation that got me in two weeks sooner but I would have missed it if I called back an hour later), my vet (to give approval on something while she was operating on my cat), my mother (grandma in ICU), and so many other situations. Not often, but MUST be reachable when this stuff happens.

College is a tricky one because many of us have lives outside of school that don't always let us check out for 5 hours (one day a week is back to back classes and usually no breaks given).

Another thing I have noticed is that I and others in my classes are using cell phones to HELP our education. I add things to my calendar when announced since I will forget to later even if I write it down. Cameras let us take pictures of diagrams and stuff that would be too much to try to copy down by hand accurately. I have even seen people use a notepad app to take class notes!
 
I agree at that level of education (college and graduate school) it should be left to the discretion of the student. My dh has taught graduate students part time for the past 2 decades and he was recently asked by school administrators if he wanted to allow students to take laptops etc into the class this winter/spring semester. Granted this is his first time teaching at this specific school but it was the first time any school had ever asked him that question. We discussed it and agreed that at that level if the students should be responsible and laptops can be an important tool in the education process in class. It should prove interesting to see how this plays out. I know my dh and if the students abuse the privilege well let's just say I wouldn't want to be in their shoes if they do abuse the privilege.

(But at grade school/high school level no I don't think mobile phones should be allowed in the classroom).
 
Even mine should be kept locked away during the school day. I am not reachable by phone during school hours usually (except in my 3 free periods a week).
 
As a special ed aide, I was expected to stay off my phone while on the clock. I could carry it, and if I knew there was something going on in my personal life that might require a call, say, a call back from a doctor's office, or if I know one of my kids wasn't 100%, so a school nurse might call, I should let the teacher I worked with know. We also had a sub desk who might call us to see if we wanted to stay for another shift, so any time the call came from the district line, I did pick up that call.

Still, I did my very best to keep to that policy though I know there were a couple colleagues who were spoken to about not using their phones, including one who claimed he was using the stopwatch for a student. Possible, as we often used timers for the children in our program. He was instructed to use one from the classroom.

Working at the elementary level, our students just weren't allowed to carry their phones. If a child had one, it stayed in the backpack. I know at the middle school level, they were expected to do the same, and if caught using one, it would be taken to the office for a parent to pick up. High school is another story. I told my girls to just keep it in your backpack and silence the ringing. DD1 wasn't the best about that (I called a couple times, thinking the ringer would be off and I could leave a voicemail instead of typing out a long text message, she answered, I scolded her on that move.) DD2 was very good about it. I told DD1 that if a teacher confiscated it, I wouldn't be arguing about that move and she shouldn't expect me to be rushing in to get it. I don't know if they COULD take it at that level, but it never happened.

Honestly, for safety, I think they should be able to have them on them, but kept off. Considering how easily a school could be put on lock down these days, I would want my kids to be able to call, if needed.
 
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