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madelise

madelise

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I don't know if this is allowed to be posted, as it does poke into the "political" sides of things.. so feel free to delete if I violated any rules..

But please watch this:
http://youtu.be/pR9gyloyOjM
 
Thanks for sharing that.
It reminds me that my partner and I need to get our legal affairs in order.
We've been a loyal monogamous couple for over 10 years now.

Bigotry disguised as morality is a beguiling and ugly thing, but is IS what many Americans were raised on and it still being widely taught in families today.

Actually, it is even simpler than bigotry or morality; this all boils down to superiority.
If we were all equal they would no longer get to feel superior.
 
That brought me to tears. Growing up in the South, I know firsthand that bigotry like that is alive and well in this country, but seeing Shane's anguish puts a face and emotions to the issue.

Kenny, please do get your affairs in order. Anything you can do to protect yourselves is worth it.

Madelise, thanks for sharing that with us.
 
Very moving. Thank you.
 
Ugh I can't bring myself to watch it a 2nd time.. I want to. It's so much better than watching those Nicholas Sparks movies.. because it's real. I still can't believe they haven't changed anything so that everyone can marry. That's ridiculous how badly this guy was screwed over by our system.

I think this guy's incredible for seeing past all the immediate hatred and bigotry, and is aiming to change the world with his story. I would be so upset at the mother, I'd be dropping f-bombs everywhere. It breaks my heart over and over again just thinking of these two boys' story..


Kenny, please do check that all your legal affairs are in order.. I've never seen anything like this firsthand, but I have seen family members in the emergency room argue and the social worker caught right in between them because the live-in partner for whatever amount of years isn't legally married to the patient..

People make wills all the time when there is property or large amounts of $ involved. Don't forget the power of attorney and advanced directive portion for medical decisions. So many people put that part off because it's such a taboo subject..

And congrats on your 10+ years ::) I hope you and your partner never went through any hatred this bad in those years.. but hell, I live in a very "tolerant" area, and I still see bigotry.


If any of you guys commenting, or just lurking and viewing could please spread this guy's message. He just posted this video up yesterday.. Help him tell their story.
 
thank you for sharing the link.
love is a beautiful thing and i hope that one day soon no one will have to go through this.
 
Well, we win one state, then we lose another state..


I can't wait to hear my kids and grandkids laugh at these current times when I'm old and say, "PEOPLE BACK THEN DIDN'T ALLOW THAT!?" the same way I laughed at how ridiculous it was that interracial couples weren't allowed to marry "back then". The future will be better..

I'm just *SO SHOCKED* that my home state, California, which hosts a very diverse population, and home of San Francisco and West Hollywood, has not legalized marriage for same-sex couples. :angryfire:
 
Well, CA did...and then they didn't. I'm originally from CA and was stunned by Prop 8. I expected CA to pave the way and show leadership when it came to marriage equality.

I'm now a proud resident of WA, which passed marriage equality in February :appl:
 
PS - speaking of kids, my DD (age 7) came home a few weeks ago, proud as punch. She told me that she and her best friend, Madeline, announced to the whole class that they are gay. Because to be gay means that girls can love girls and boys can love boys, and since they love each other, they're gay now :)

This stemmed from an earlier conversation she and I had after my ipod was set to shuffle and Pink's "Dear Mr. President" came on and there's a line in the song that goes, "what kind of father might hate his own daughter if she were gay?" So naturally, DD asked me what gay means (my brother is gay, and we've talked many times about the issue but I guess I never used the specific word "gay" before), so I explained that it's the word we use to describe boys who marry (or love) boys and girls who marry (or love) girls, etc. Then I had to explain why someone was writing a song to our former president, and she now calls him "that bad man who hates gay people", lolol.

I know that one day we'll have the conversation you describe, Madelise - like when I tell her that we didn't have a microwave until I was in junior high school, lol.
 
Erica,

That's what amazes me. Children don't see sexual orientation or skin color as a way of marking some sort of "better than another" hierarchy. Children truly just see actions and emotions as they are: pure. I don't remember even remember connecting the dots of people speaking native languages at home to ethnicity until the 6th grade, when suddenly all the stereotypes were "discovered", and mini-gangs existed with specific ethnic members.

I truly do hope that kids, our future, will continue to stay tolerant, and not just "tolerating"-tolerant (tolerant means "putting up with" to me), but to the point of "there's no difference?"-tolerant. To the point where the realizations of another's sexual orientation is similar to the realizations of another's hairstyle or eye color. It's there. Great. We sometimes notice right away, sometimes don't care to. But it does NOT define the person to us. I can't wait for that day. And honestly, we're still battling that front with skin color, so it might be a ways away..

Have you seen that news article about the girl with cerebral palsy that was elected prom queen at a high school? Current kids really give me hope..

You raised your daughter very well Erica. I can bet you had a sparkle in your eye when you heard her declare her loving her friend.

If only the whole world was as innocent!
 
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