Please help us to look at the idealimage scope!!!!Thanks!!!!

[fifikiki]

Hi PSers:

Thanks for looking at the specs for us previously. Now We have received idealscope image, please kindly help us to see whether it is a true H&A. Thanks very much! for those who might want to look the specs for this diamond, please refer to https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/please-please-help-us-to-decide-thanks-very-much.127906/.

Really appreciated!

 

[fifikiki]

Here is another one for you guys:

Thanks!

 

[fifikiki]

Sorry the title should be " Idealscope image",Thanks!

 

[stone-cold11]

Looks good to me.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

very nice

 

[Lorelei]

Fifi the images look great but you ask whether the stone is a '' true'' h&a, we need the hearts image to decide this if you could get one please.

 

[fifikiki]

Date: 10/27/2009 5:06:54 AM
Author: Lorelei
Fifi the images look great but you ask whether the stone is a '' true'' h&a, we need the hearts image to decide this if you could get one please.

Thanks, Stone Cold, Gary and dear Lorelei. You guys are always so helpful!!!!!!!!!

On GIA report, it indicates "H&A" as additional comments. Does it mean it is a true "H&A"

I just asked my vendor to send me a "Heart" image and will post it once I have it.

Just want to thanks you guys once again!

 

[stone-cold11]

No, GIA does not grade if a stone is H&A or not. GIA report only states what is inscribed on the girdle of the stone, probably lasered by the cutter, can be anything and GIA will still write it down in the report.

 

[fifikiki]

Date: 10/27/2009 5:06:54 AM
Author: Lorelei
Fifi the images look great but you ask whether the stone is a '' true'' h&a, we need the hearts image to decide this if you could get one please.

Here is the Heart image i just received:

 

[fifikiki]

Another Arrow image:

 

[fifikiki]

Date: 10/27/2009 9:05:23 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
No, GIA does not grade if a stone is H&A or not. GIA report only states what is inscribed on the girdle of the stone, probably lasered by the cutter, can be anything and GIA will still write it down in the report.

Thanks, Stone-cold, learned something new again!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/27/2009 10:34:12 PM
Author: fifikiki

Date: 10/27/2009 9:05:23 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
No, GIA does not grade if a stone is H&A or not. GIA report only states what is inscribed on the girdle of the stone, probably lasered by the cutter, can be anything and GIA will still write it down in the report.

Thanks, Stone-cold, learned something new again!

As my esteemed friend John Pollard once opined, GIA could inscribe ' Joanie loves Chachi" on a diamond if requested!! So because such a diamond is inscribed with h&a doesn't necessarily mean it is h&a. The images for the diamond look good from what I can see.

 

[Laila619]

Looks like a nice stone!

 

[ct-appr]

Beautiful!

 

[fifikiki]

QUOTE]Date: 10/28/2009 7:40:27 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 10/27/2009 10:34:12 PM

Author: fifikiki

Date: 10/27/2009 9:05:23 PM

Author: Stone-cold11

No, GIA does not grade if a stone is H&A or not. GIA report only states what is inscribed on the girdle of the stone, probably lasered by the cutter, can be anything and GIA will still write it down in the report.

Thanks, Stone-cold, learned something new again!

As my esteemed friend John Pollard once opined, GIA could inscribe '' Joanie loves Chachi'' on a diamond if requested!! So because such a diamond is inscribed with h&a doesn''t necessarily mean it is h&a. The images for the diamond look good from what I can see.[/quote]

I see now,they really confused me by saying "inscribed H&A on the report". so tricky

Thanks again for your comments, Lorelei!

 

[fifikiki]

Date: 10/28/2009 9:01:27 AM
Author: Laila619
Looks like a nice stone!

Thanks for your comments too, Laila!

 

[fifikiki]

Date: 10/28/2009 11:49:41 AM
Author: ct-appr
Beautiful!

Thanks you, ct-appr!

 

[outatouch0]

Date: 10/27/2009 3:55:54 AM
Author: Stone-cold11
Looks good to me.

Please help me out here I am confused.
I thought the white/lighter areas on the IS image meant leakage? I see these white areas on this IS image in the table yet the comments on the stone via the images are favorable? I have seen this with several stones in the forums.

Please give me some feedback as to what I am missing or if I''m completely wrong from the start? Did I miss a section in the knowlege base stuff?

oh, if this is too much of a hijack on the OP of this thread I can start a new one.
thanks in advance

 

[stone-cold11]

You have to compare the saturation of the image, this setup is such that the colors are whiter than from other vendors, so compare accordingly.

 

[outatouch0]

any tips on how to recognize image saturation vs. light leakage ?

thanks

 

[fifikiki]

Date: 10/30/2009 12:51:35 AM
Author: outatouch0

Date: 10/27/2009 3:55:54 AM

Author: Stone-cold11

Looks good to me.

Please help me out here I am confused.

I thought the white/lighter areas on the IS image meant leakage? I see these white areas on this IS image in the table yet the comments on the stone via the images are favorable? I have seen this with several stones in the forums.


Please give me some feedback as to what I am missing or if I''m completely wrong from the start? Did I miss a section in the knowlege base stuff?


oh, if this is too much of a hijack on the OP of this thread I can start a new one.

thanks in advance

Hi, outatouch0,I have the same confusion as you are, I just thought you will always have some light leakage even for a ideal cut. but I do not know either how to tell, can someone help us here?

Thanks!

 

[stone-cold11]

Look at a lot of images, most will have control leakage at certain locations in the stone. For example, look at the V between the 2 arrowheads, at the vertex there is a sharp white area that is the same as the background, that is the color of leakage going to be. The kite facet will not have any leakage, so that is the color of the best red, light return, that is going to be. Mentally form a scale and judge. Also note the length and thickness of the arrows to notice if any tilt of the stone is present when the image is taken and correct for the image accordingly, shorter arrows can have leakage in the IS that will not be there in a level stone. If there is leakage near the longer arrows, then the stone will definitely be leaky.

 

[outatouch0]

thanks for the tips !!!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/30/2009 4:22:04 AM
Author: outatouch0
any tips on how to recognize image saturation vs. light leakage ?

thanks

This chart shows you what to look for with leakage. Leakage is normally seen in IS as lighter or darker patches usually around the table area. If the leakage is very bad sometimes a dark ring can be seen running around the entire table which is called " the ring of death". As for saturation once you look at a few images you can tell, the image in question you can see the red is a bit transparent due to the lighting but evenly spread throughout the diamond. Some other IS images have a less transparent red, the key is to look for definite lighter or darker areas which deviate from the whole.

As for the lighter ' watermelon pip' white areas around the edge of an Idealscope, this is controlled intentional leakage which is designed to aid contrast and scintillation in a diamond, nothing to be concerned about.