Please help me choose between 3 stones

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Many thanks to Lorelei, Ellen and others for all your help so far! I''ve narrowed it down to three and could use some help choosing between them. Please let me know what you think. I have Idealscope and Aset images for #2 and #3, and grading certificates for all three if that would help.

#1
GIA
Carat: 1.53
Color: G
Clarity: SI1
Depth: 61.8
Table: 55.0
Polish: ex
Sym: ex
Girdle: thin to medium
Culet: none
Fluor: faint
7.41x7.45x4.59
Crown: 34.5
Pavilion: 40.8
HCA: 1.3


#2
AGS
hearts and arrows
Carat: 1.53
Color: G
Clarity: SI2 (eye clean)
depth: 61.6
table: 56.2
Polish: ideal
Sym: ideal
girdle: thin to medium
Culet: pointed
fluor: negligible
7.39-7.42-4.56
Crown: 34.7
Pavilion: 40.7
HCA: 1.1



#3
GIA
Carat: 1.50
Color: G
Clarity: SI1 (eye clean)
Depth: 60.6
Table: 58.0
Polish: ex
Sym: ex
Girdle: medium
Culet: none
Fluor: faint
7.41x7.38x4.48
Crown: 34.5
Pavilion: 40.8
HCA: 1.3


Any input is welcome!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/18/2009 10:06:27 AM
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Many thanks to Lorelei, Ellen and others for all your help so far! I've narrowed it down to three and could use some help choosing between them. Please let me know what you think. I have Idealscope and Aset images for #2 and #3, and grading certificates for all three if that would help.

Yes, definitely post the images you have and we'll go from there!

 

[icekid]

Date: 7/18/2009 10:09:55 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 7/18/2009 10:06:27 AM

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Many thanks to Lorelei, Ellen and others for all your help so far! I''ve narrowed it down to three and could use some help choosing between them. Please let me know what you think. I have Idealscope and Aset images for #2 and #3, and grading certificates for all three if that would help.

Yes, definitely post the images you have and we''ll go from there!

Yep! So far they are all looking pretty lovely.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/18/2009 10:09:55 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 7/18/2009 10:06:27 AM
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Many thanks to Lorelei, Ellen and others for all your help so far! I''ve narrowed it down to three and could use some help choosing between them. Please let me know what you think. I have Idealscope and Aset images for #2 and #3, and grading certificates for all three if that would help.

Yes, definitely post the images you have and we''ll go from there!

Most welcome and ditto The Ellenator for images please!

 

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Stone #1

 

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Stone #2

 

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Stone #2

 

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Stone #2

 

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Stone #3

 

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Stone #3

 

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Stone #3

 

[Ellen]

Stone 1 is probably fine, it's got great stats and safe angles, but no pics.

Stone 2 looks great, and seems to be eyeclean. I would imagine the cheapest too.

Stone 3's images and stats look good, but there are a lot of feathers going on. Might be fine, but since you have other good ones to pick from, I'd nix that one.


So, it's between 1 and 2 for me. I always feel better with images, so I guess I'd pick that one. But I would make sure the clarity is not affecting the performance. Considering who has it I doubt it, but it's just prudent to ask.

And you're welcome!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/18/2009 10:48:43 AM
Author: Ellen
Stone 1 is probably fine, it''s got great stats and safe angles, but no pics.

Stone 2 looks great, and seems to be eyeclean. I would imagine the cheapest too.

Stone 3''s images and stats look good, but there are a lot of feathers going on. Might be fine, but since you have other good ones to pick from, I''d nix that one.


So, it''s between 1 and 2 for me. I always feel better with images, so I guess I''d pick that one. But I would make sure the clarity is not affecting the performance. Considering who has it I doubt it, but it''s just prudent to ask.

And you''re welcome!

Ditto

 

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Thanks Ellen! Stone 1 is actually the cheapest by about $500. Stones 2 and 3 are within $100 of each other. I have been assured that stone 2 is eyeclean. I should have an Idealscope image for stone 1 on Monday. I just thought that if 2 or 3 was clearly superior I wouldn’t wait.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/18/2009 11:02:06 AM
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Thanks Ellen! Stone 1 is actually the cheapest by about $500. Stones 2 and 3 are within $100 of each other. I have been assured that stone 2 is eyeclean. I should have an Idealscope image for stone 1 on Monday. I just thought that if 2 or 3 was clearly superior I wouldn’t wait.

Now that I think about it, that could make sense, as 2 is a H&A cut. You could wait for the image on 1, but if it isn''t a H&A cut too, just remember you won''t truly be comparing apples with apples. Up to you though, if that is not important.

 

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The certificate plot for first stone listed above shows two knots (visible in the second post). Are they significant enough to cross that stone off my list regardless of what the idealscope ends up showing?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/20/2009 9:44:57 AM
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The certificate plot for first stone listed above shows two knots (visible in the second post). Are they significant enough to cross that stone off my list regardless of what the idealscope ends up showing?

Which vendor is selling the first diamond? The knots might not be any kind of issue, check with the seller if they are eye visible.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/20/2009 9:47:46 AM
Author: Lorelei

Which vendor is selling the first diamond? The knots might not be any kind of issue, check with the seller if they are eye visible.

And/or are they posing any potential problems.

 

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It''s a James Allen stone. The person I have been working with there has been out of town for a few days, which is killing me

. I''ll get someone to look at it as soon as I can.

Also, the vendor of the #3 stone listed above did a sarin and sent me the report. The numbers didn''t exactly match the GIA. I understand that no two sets of equipment are exactly the same but the numbers from the GIA are better (not a huge difference, but not completely insignificant).

GIA:
depth: 60.6
table: 58.0
crown angle: 34.5
pavilion angle: 40.8
HCA: 1.4 (ex ex ex vg)

Sarin:
depth: 60.8
table: 58.4
crown angle: 34.9
pavilion angle: 40.8
HCA: 1.7 (vg ex vg vg)


Which set of numbers is more accurate? Would subjecting any well cut stone to repeated testing on different equipment result in this amount of difference?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/20/2009 10:00:00 AM
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It's a James Allen stone. The person I have been working with there has been out of town for a few days, which is killing me

. I'll get someone to look at it as soon as I can.

Also, the vendor of the #3 stone listed above did a sarin and sent me the report. The numbers didn't exactly match the GIA. I understand that no two sets of equipment are exactly the same but the numbers from the GIA are better (not a huge difference, but not completely insignificant).

GIA:
depth: 60.6
table: 58.0
crown angle: 34.5
pavilion angle: 40.8
HCA: 1.4 (ex ex ex vg)

Sarin:
depth: 60.8
table: 58.4
crown angle: 34.9
pavilion angle: 40.8
HCA: 1.7 (vg ex vg vg)


Which set of numbers is more accurate? Would subjecting any well cut stone to repeated testing on different equipment result in this amount of difference?

Sarin results can often vary, that is a difference in the crown angle - however I believe this Sarin in particular can fluctuate. I am not concerned though as the Idealscope and ASET images look excellent.

 

[Ellen]

GIA rounds the crown and pavilion, so no surprise it's different. What is surprising is that if the Sarin is correct, why didn't it get rounded to 35.... Table is a tad different too.

But as Lorelei said, the IS looks great. It will be a very pretty stone!

 

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Thanks, and that is reassuring! I''m probably just nitpicking, but I can''t help it.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/20/2009 10:16:29 AM
Author: way more stuff
Thanks, and that is reassuring! I''m probably just nitpicking, but I can''t help it.

lol It''s easy to do!