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novice111

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To clarify, will the darker patch (shown in the ASET image and Gemex light views) result in a more dull/nonactive patch on the diamond?

Thanks again!
 
Welcome Novice!
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This diamond looks like a FANTASTIC find! It is a great size and it is a beautiful D/VS combo!
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I couldn''t believe how clean the AGS plot report was. I say 100% go for it!
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I''m not sure as to what you are referring to with the regards to the sizeable patch. I don''t see anything that looks as though it will affect your diamond''s performance. If something is present, I am sure an expert will be able to chime in and advise.

I ran your diamond''s number through the Holloway Cut Advisor and they came back with the following score/results:
Score 1.2 - Excellent!
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It falls right within both the GIA Excellent and AGS Ideal Range!
Light return - Excellent
Fire - Excellent
Scintillation - Excellent
Spread or Diameter for weight - Very Good.

Can''t get much better than this!
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crown facet 3 and 4 were slightly painted.
Nothing too worry about.
The aset image generated on the PGS report is from sarin data and it may have miss measured the angles as it often does on painted stones.
The DiaXray image looks excellent.
Id buy it.

checked and yep the sarin is the problem,,,


http://www.goodoldgold.com/items/3969/BR177DVS29202005.srn

Switch too 3d symmetry in the drop down then turn the diamond diagram so your looking at the table.
Notice how it doesnt line up.
The stone would not get ideal in sym with those meet points so the scan is off.

 
Thanks, Sparkalicious and strmrdr!! I''m really, really grateful for your responses.
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About painting - when talking to Jonathan, he emphasized that he generally avoids painted stone, so I had thought this stone would not have slight painting (?).

But even if the ASET image is off because the Sarin data is slightly off, I''m especially concerned about the Gemex light views - which are shots of the actual diamond, right?

In the Gemex report that I attached, the darker patch is quite visible in the center image (enlarged image of Light View 6), between the 9:00 and 10:30 arrows (upper left). Actually, it''s quite visible in all other Light Views, especially Light Views 3, 4, and 5. That makes me really concerned that it looks like a duller/inactive patch. Would you be concerned?

Thanks again!!
 
Hi novice,

Is the color D of utter importance to you? I''m only asking because they have this one, which is going to appear just as colorless, and though it weighs a tad less, it''s facing up at the same size, and it would be a bit cheaper. And it may be more "mind clean" for you, since you seem to be struggling with the other one a bit.

Just a thought.
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Thanks, Ellen!
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Jonathan had actually shown me that one, too, but it has faint fluorescence, so I am looking more at this first stone. I really appreciate it, though. :) I''m willing to wait, so I''m really like to get a mind-clean one. =)
 
Date: 1/10/2008 8:22:03 PM
Author: novice111
Thanks, Ellen!
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Jonathan had actually shown me that one, too, but it has faint fluorescence, so I am looking more at this first stone. I really appreciate it, though. :) I''m willing to wait, so I''m really like to get a mind-clean one. =)
You''re welcome.

I understand how one has to be happy with everything. May I ask why the faint fluorescence bothers you? I have a stone with faint, but I never would have known it if it hadn''t been on the grading report. It doesn''t affect the stone in the least.
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Thanks for the honest commentary strm & everyone. Just a point of note. The *slight* fluctuation seen in the critical imagery is caused by 2 of the 16 upper girdle angles that just teter over 44 degrees. A threshold that begins to draw reflections from the 43-44 degree angular spectrum as pinks in the ASET begin at 45 and only if the diamond is observed in the controlled environment of an ASET (since it assumes observance perfectly level from the horizon). There is no painting or digging in this diamond that to cause it to lose any beauty or visible effects that anyone on this planet would see. Painting on the crown generally causes the upper girdle angles to fall lower to the 36-39 degree zone.

PGS scores "0" all the way down the line in every optical characteristic in a critical exam based on its 3d model. The Helium Report, based on the Helium scan shows the numerical details. When viewing this diamond under an actual AGS ASET you see red in that area with an ever so faint hint of green depending on the position of your head above the viewer. Hope that helps.

Peace,
 
Gosh, that is a gorgeous stone and so is the E! Fantastic size, too!

Oh, and faint flourescence has absolutely zero negative effect. I wouldn't let stop me one bit from purchasing the E.
 
Date: 1/10/2008 6:43:09 PM
Author: strmrdr

crown facet 3 and 4 were slightly painted.
Nothing too worry about.
The aset image generated on the PGS report is from sarin data and it may have miss measured the angles as it often does on painted stones.
The DiaXray image looks excellent.
Id buy it.


checked and yep the sarin is the problem,,,



http://www.goodoldgold.com/items/3969/BR177DVS29202005.srn

Switch too 3d symmetry in the drop down then turn the diamond diagram so your looking at the table.
Notice how it doesnt line up.
The stone would not get ideal in sym with those meet points so the scan is off.

Just too clarify that should have said upper girdle facets.
 
Date: 1/10/2008 8:51:45 PM
Author: Rhino

When viewing this diamond under an actual AGS ASET you see red in that area with an ever so faint hint of green depending on the position of your head above the viewer. Hope that helps.

Peace,
That is what I would expect from the helium numbers.

I guess the bottom line is this stone is a small smig off from the best of the best in a non-visible way.
Mind clean enough? If everything else was what I wanted then I''d say yes.
 
Looks like a great stone!
 
Just wanted to express my heartfelt thanks for your thoughts! I really appreciate it. You guys are the best.
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Are you keeping it or have you decided to go with something else?
If you''ve kept it, I cannot wait to see pics of it!
 
Also, just wanted to point out how incredibly generous Jonathan has been with his time, patience, and information. He goes far beyond the call of duty to provide us with all of the data, down to the very minutia. All of the diamonds he''s shown me have been absolutely stunning.
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Kudos!
 
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