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bkd8590

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I definitely want to get a platinum halo around the .8 to 1c mark. As far as cut I think it seems safe for someone who doesn't know a lot like me to go with brian gavin, wf aca, or ja h&a. So assuming if I get the best quality round cut, what is the lowest color and clarity I can go without it looking to warm?
 
Well, it's all relative and subjective. I think it would be safe to stay around G/H. Small halo pave always look whiter than their
larger counterparts but its not usually an issue.

Have you looked at the Halo settings at the different vendors and found anything you like or were you planning on going custom?

Edit...if you are looking to go larger you could go with an "I" IMO. Some will say its too low though.
 
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My Daughter in law has an I color ACA in platinum and it looks white to all of us. I wear a J in platinum and it’s white enough for me. I do think color is subjective. Some see color better than others and it bothers some more than others as well.
 
I definitely want to get a platinum halo around the .8 to 1c mark. As far as cut I think it seems safe for someone who doesn't know a lot like me to go with brian gavin, wf aca, or ja h&a. So assuming if I get the best quality round cut, what is the lowest color and clarity I can go without it looking to warm?

Both @tyty333 and @Slickk give great answers. It is nearly impossible to play the, "How Low Can I Go." game on line and be comfortable with the answer.If at all possible, you should try to arrange to see three or more diamonds displayed randomly in a slotted tray and see what YOUR eyes like.

Many people actually prefer a slightly warm H-I-J color to the hard white of the D-E-F colors.

Many people actually prefer a hard white D-E-F color to the slightly warm of the H-I-J colors.

Which are you? That is the real question here. I do not think of H-I-J as low colors, I think of them as warm colors. For several generations now, jewelers have been shooting themselves in both feet by referring to the beautiful warm colors as low grade diamonds.

I say pfffft! It is the cutting that makes the beauty, the rest is about do you like vanilla, chocolate or strawberry?
 
So this is a little bit dependent on your level of perceived color. Most assortments of melee these days are in the F-G color range in my experience. The further down (or up) you go in the color of the center stone, the more the color contrast starts becoming visible. To my eyes, the color contrast starts to become visible at an I color center stone and gradually becomes more so in lower colors.
Good luck!
 
@bkd8590, I would go with G-H to make sure you don't see contrast between the center stone and the melee.
 
If at all possible, you should try to arrange to see three or more diamonds displayed randomly in a slotted tray and see what YOUR eyes like.

^This advice from @Wink is great and I forgot to say that my son and DIL did go locally to try hearts on fire stones in different sizes and colors to make sure she wasn’t color sensitive.
Turned out she was size sensitive and was willing to go lower in color for larger in carat weight. Enjoy!!
 
Size sensitive :lol:...sounds so odd!

I did the same thing. I owned a J and went down to a K to go bigger. I think I hit my color tolerance in Round brilliants. I think
I would rather be up at I/J. Old stones get a whole different color range of course:twirl:.
 
thank you all for the great advice, we have gone to look in person and USUALLY like G-I but locally our stones are not wonderful cuts. So I guess my questions should have been more of IF the cut is excellent, what is the lowest grade of color and clarity can I go until the color is usually seen by the eye. Or is it not really an answer of how the cut/clarity is but the stone itself?
 
Pat attention to which gem lab graded the color.
Unlike weight, a color grade is not simple to verify/prove, because different labs are more or less strict on color.
IMO this is fraud, but they get away with it.
Buyer beware.

For example, if you sent the same diamond to two labs one lab may grade it an F while another lab may grade it H, or even lower. :knockout:

For consistency I'd only look at diamonds graded by GIA, (or AGS, which has merged into GIA but there are probably still some diamonds out there with AGS reports).

A one-carat diamond graded to be G VS1 by a less-reputable lab may seem cheaper or a better "value", than a one-carat G VS1 graded by GIA.
This leads some people to say GIA-graded diamonds are too expensive.
That lie only works on the poorly educated diamond shoppers.

The diamond graded by a less-reputable lab is not really an G VS1; rather it's likely a I SI1 or worse when graded to GIA's standards and it can actually cost MORE with the grading from the less-reputable lab.

Buying a diamond graded by a less-reputable gem lab is like paying for a Lexus ...

LEX 2.png

... but getting a Toyota ... :cry2:

TOY 2.png
 
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Pat attention to which gem lab graded the color.
Unlike weight, a color grade is not simple to verify/prove, because different labs are more or less strict on color.
IMO this is fraud, but they get away with it.
Buyer beware.

For example, if you sent the same diamond to two labs one lab may grade it an F while another lab may grade it H, or even lower. :knockout:

For consistency I'd only look at diamonds graded by GIA, (or AGS, which has merged into GIA but there are probably still some diamonds out there with AGS reports).

A one-carat diamond graded to be G VS1 by a less-reputable lab may seem cheaper or a better "value", than a one-carat G VS1 graded by GIA.
This leads some people to say GIA-graded diamonds are too expensive.
That lie only works on the poorly educated diamond shoppers.

The diamond graded by a less-reputable lab is not really an G VS1; rather it's likely a I SI1 or worse when graded to GIA's standards and it can actually cost MORE with the grading from the less-reputable lab.

Buying a diamond graded by a less-reputable gem lab is like paying for a Lexus ...

LEX 2.png

... but getting a Toyota ... :cry2:

TOY 2.png

Im primarly looking at bg and wf only. I know they may be marked up, but ill pay for peace of mind. I believe they are gia?
 
Pat attention to which gem lab graded the color.
Unlike weight, a color grade is not simple to verify/prove, because different labs are more or less strict on color.
IMO this is fraud, but they get away with it.
Buyer beware.

For example, if you sent the same diamond to two labs one lab may grade it an F while another lab may grade it H, or even lower. :knockout:

For consistency I'd only look at diamonds graded by GIA, (or AGS, which has merged into GIA but there are probably still some diamonds out there with AGS reports).

A one-carat diamond graded to be G VS1 by a less-reputable lab may seem cheaper or a better "value", than a one-carat G VS1 graded by GIA.
This leads some people to say GIA-graded diamonds are too expensive.
That lie only works on the poorly educated diamond shoppers.

The diamond graded by a less-reputable lab is not really an G VS1; rather it's likely a I SI1 or worse when graded to GIA's standards and it can actually cost MORE with the grading from the less-reputable lab.

Buying a diamond graded by a less-reputable gem lab is like paying for a Lexus ...

LEX 2.png

... but getting a Toyota ... :cry2:

TOY 2.png

Toyota makes Lexus. But you knew that. :saint: :wavey:
 
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or consistency I'd only look at diamonds graded by GIA, (or AGS, which has merged into GIA but there are probably still some diamonds out there with AGS reports).

During the months when the company I was working with was selling each diamond with three reports, AGS, GIA and GCAL, we found that GIA was tougher on borderline color than AGS but often softer on borderline clarity. We also found that GCAL was tougher than both AGS and GIA on borderline color and clarity.

GCAL is now using AI to grade both color and clarity. The results are recorded and then given to two separate human graders The consistency between the human graders and the AI is remarkable. I think it is going to be an interesting time for the grading industry and I believe that both GCAL and IGI are going to be recognized as top tier Labs in the near future.
 
Thanks for the update, Wink. ;))

... Get it? ... Wink. ... ;));));))
 
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Yup. :mrgreen:
 
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