Pink diamond on Ebay

[Rosiedovepink]

While searching through ebay for a lab grown pink diamond I ran across this ring. It actually came with a wedding band and a guard but after discussing things with the seller he was able to make me a listing for just the engagement. I wish I had taken screenshots of the other images he had before he changed the listing because it showed the diamond looking forward. He said he bought it on a carribean cruise and doesn't know if it's coated or heated just that its natural. He said he bought the diamond on St. Marks island. I dont have any experience with that type of diamond purchasing. I ended up paying 1700 for the ring then taxes. Do you think this was a good risky purchase or not? He seemed to be certain it wasnt clarity enhanced but the paperwork he has was just what is in the listing. Will ebay authentication be able to tell what enhancements the diamond has and let me know? He guess it was coated because but that was just that a guess. He didn't seem to know much about the different types of enhancements but said the color hadn't changed over the years his ex-wife had worn the ring. He had it adjusted so that the head of the ring sat up higher. Also, it seems to look very dirty or is that just my bad eyes? He did say it doesn't ever look as pink as it does in the appraisal picture it's more light pink and seemed to change colors in different lighting. It wasn't the pink diamond necklace I had in mind but I am really taken by the ring and it seems more elongated that a princess cut to me but it's hard to tell. It was a risk but hopefully a good one. He said the appraisal is around the price he paid for the set originally.

 

[lovedogs]

It's enhanced somehow. 100% not natural or else it would be worth SO much. Also that color isn't natural looking. So my guess is coated or lab grown. Cruises are notorious for selling overpriced stuff

 

[Rosiedovepink]

It's enhanced somehow. 100% not natural or else it would be worth SO much. Also that color isn't natural looking. So my guess is coated or lab grown. Cruises are notorious for selling overpriced stuff

Thank you for your reply! I wouldn't mind if it was lab grown as that was my intention to begin with but wasnt sure if they were that available when he purchased it. The appraisal was from 2010 so I didn't know if they were that easy to come across then. I didn't know anything about diamonds then lol. That was my guess too. The jeweler I found online that looks to be the right one does have one bad review at the very least and no website which gives me a bad feeling. He said he had someone looking for a natural pink diamond all over the island and this was her engagement ring so I'm not sure if he doesn't have some sentimental attachment to the ring in some way. She wore it and a band then he bought her a guard. She seemed to love the ring from what ive gathered which is gives me some hope. He said she didnt care just wanted a pink diamond lol. It's so hard to know with the information I have but from the setting I hoped it was an ok price even if it didn't turn out to be worth much on its own. He has assured me it's a natural diamond but I know ebay authentication can check that easily. However, it being natural doesn't mean it's naturally pink in anyway.

 

[Mreader]

Is it going through the authentication process?

 

[Rosiedovepink]

Is it going through the authentication process?

Yes, he hasn't shipped yet but the listing says Authentication Gaurantee. He asked me about the process so I assume it will have to if the listing says so correct?

 

[lovedogs]

Thank you for your reply! I wouldn't mind if it was lab grown as that was my intention to begin with but wasnt sure if they were that available when he purchased it. The appraisal was from 2010 so I didn't know if they were that easy to come across then. I didn't know anything about diamonds then lol. That was my guess too. The jeweler I found online that looks to be the right one does have one bad review at the very least and no website which gives me a bad feeling. He said he had someone looking for a natural pink diamond all over the island and this was her engagement ring so I'm not sure if he doesn't have some sentimental attachment to the ring in some way. She wore it and a band then he bought her a guard. She seemed to love the ring from what ive gathered which is gives me some hope. He said she didnt care just wanted a pink diamond lol. It's so hard to know with the information I have but from the setting I hoped it was an ok price even if it didn't turn out to be worth much on its own. He has assured me it's a natural diamond but I know ebay authentication can check that easily. However, it being natural doesn't mean it's naturally pink in anyway.

My guess is that he wouldn't know if it were coated/heavily treated. That's part of the cruise line "game". They say all kinds of crazy things to make people spend too much money. In my opinion, you could find a nicer color pink lab diamond, and I'm concerned that there seems to be 0 color pink from the side in your pics. I honestly just don't trust it and it could be anything. Including something silly like a cz with a diamond "coating" which is essentially worthless.

 

[Rosiedovepink]

My guess is that he wouldn't know if it were coated/heavily treated. That's part of the cruise line "game". They say all kinds of crazy things to make people spend too much money. In my opinion, you could find a nicer color pink lab diamond, and I'm concerned that there seems to be 0 color pink from the side in your pics. I honestly just don't trust it and it could be anything. Including something silly like a cz with a diamond "coating" which is essentially worthless.

You're very right! Normally when I buy something with ebay authentication gurantee they checked all that and gave me an option to immediately return it with a refund. That was one of the biggest reasons I took the risk since they will send it to a GIA laboratory or atleast they did last time.

 

[lovedogs]

Yeah, at least there's the authebticity check. I just hope they can test for what the "enhancement" is

 

[Rosiedovepink]

Yeah, at least there's the authebticity check. I just hope they can test for what the "enhancement" is

I do to. I know coating isn't really good and I could find a nice lab grown instead of a coated natural one. The seller was used to the process for sports cards. He sells alot of them. He had 100 positive feedback and was very honest about the whole thing it seemed. I'm just not sure he knows what he has. I would think though at some point in all of that time someone would have mentioned to him after the rework of the ring that it was a cz. I could be very very wrong though. He was very open with the fact that the color was not extremely saturated he made it sound like it was extremely light to begin with not at all like the appraisal pictures. Do they have a coating to make a diamond light pink too. Just because I didn't do all that much research on the coating just that its a coating and it eventually comes off. I'm expecting it to not have much color anyways from talking to him. I hope the lab ebay sends it to is able to give me some more information.

 

[Ibrakeforpossums]

I hope the authentication comes back as something you're happy with. Pretty ring for $1,700.

 

[Rosiedovepink]

I hope the authentication comes back as something you're happy with. Pretty ring for $1,700.

Thank you! I hope so too! I really thought the setting alone was worth 1700 no matter what the center comes back as. I am really hoping it's lab grown and not coated. That would be the only thing I really do not want but in reality the most likely. At first he said he thought it was coated but then after I talked to him for a while he really thought it was heated because after all those years and the work done with her wearing it everyday nothing about the color changed. I also do not know anything about the clarity it's hard to tell from pictures I wish it was a natural pink with heat treatment and super super low clarity . I dont think anyone could possibly ever get that lucky lol. He also didn't ask about annealing or irradiated enhancements because he just didn't know.

 

[Ibrakeforpossums]

I believe ebay has GIA people doing authentication. Maybe this will come up as different and interesting to them and merit a really good look. If a diamond can be irradiated to pale pink, woo - hoo!
FWIF the sports car market is very complex and lousy with misrepresentation. If he has a good record in that arena, it's a good sign.

 

[Bron357]

The eBay jewelry guarantee compares the listing wording to the item. They will be checking that it is 14kt gold and that the diamonds weights are estimated as correct. The listing says enhanced, it doesn’t say natural or lab grown.
Given it was 2010, that was before lab grown diamonds. So it could be a treated ie coated diamond. The other possibility would be Moissanite. Back in 2010 a lot of small time jewellers just used a Presidum machine to test and Moissanite does test as diamonds on such instruments.
The GIA will know if it’s diamond or Moissanite.
The seller gets instructions from eBay as where to send the ring for authentication. If all is ok it is then shipped to you. It does increase the shipping time to you. If it’s not ok, you get notification of a full refund and the item is returned to the seller.

 

[Rosiedovepink]

The eBay jewelry guarantee compares the listing wording to the item. They will be checking that it is 14kt gold and that the diamonds weights are estimated as correct. The listing says enhanced, it doesn’t say natural or lab grown.
Given it was 2010, that was before lab grown diamonds. So it could be a treated ie coated diamond. The other possibility would be Moissanite. Back in 2010 a lot of small time jewellers just used a Presidum machine to test and Moissanite does test as diamonds on such instruments.
The GIA will know if it’s diamond or Moissanite.
The seller gets instructions from eBay as where to send the ring for authentication. If all is ok it is then shipped to you. It does increase the shipping time to you. If it’s not ok, you get notification of a full refund and the item is returned to the seller.

Would they check to see if it's natural based on this part of the listing? Or does it need to be in the title and the main description? The original listing had more information but I didn't want the guard so he changed it so I could purchase just the engagement ring. I think he just let Ebay produce one for him because he did it really quickly. I also forgot to mention the only venetian jewelers I can find in that area is a mall store. It makes me feel alittle uneasy about their appraisal. And I worry that he didn't change the listing to a single ring. I hope it doesn't cause too many problems.

 

[Rosiedovepink]

I believe ebay has GIA people doing authentication. Maybe this will come up as different and interesting to them and merit a really good look. If a diamond can be irradiated to pale pink, woo - hoo!
FWIF the sports car market is very complex and lousy with misrepresentation. If he has a good record in that arena, it's a good sign.

That's good to hear . That would really be amazing , I hope and wish lol!
Thank you, that makes me feel alittle better! I don't know anything at all about that market except what my mother has told me. I'm not sure how much of that soaked in.

 

[Rosiedovepink]

I searched for when I sent the listing to my husband and found it with the original main photo. I'm not sure if it's helpful at all but I wanted to make sure to add it since I had the screenshot.

 

[lovedogs]

I searched for when I sent the listing to my husband and found it with the original main photo. I'm not sure if it's helpful at all but I wanted to make sure to add it since I had the screenshot.

That picture just makes it look brown. I just feel like this is all an unnecessary risk, especially because lab diamonds are so plentiful these days and easy to buy

 

[lovedogs]

Would they check to see if it's natural based on this part of the listing? Or does it need to be in the title and the main description? The original listing had more information but I didn't want the guard so he changed it so I could purchase just the engagement ring. I think he just let Ebay produce one for him because he did it really quickly. I also forgot to mention the only venetian jewelers I can find in that area is a mall store. It makes me feel alittle uneasy about their appraisal. And I worry that he didn't change the listing to a single ring. I hope it doesn't cause too many problems.

Their appraisal is meaningless, just fyi. An in house appraisal is largely useless. Would you be able to return if you aren't happy once you receive it?

 

[Rosiedovepink]

Their appraisal is meaningless, just fyi. An in house appraisal is largely useless. Would you be able to return if you aren't happy once you receive it?

Oh yes I am aware, even a good appraisal means little to nothing and this one doesn't even give much information to describe the ring.
He doesn't normally accept returns but if I take it to a jeweler and it isn't close to what he describes I can return it. With that being said if GIA finds any discrepancies I can refuse the purchase and they will issue an automatic refund then send it to the seller .
I would be happy if it was pinkish brown or brownish pink too. I think brown diamonds are pretty in their own right so it wouldn't be a big deal for me. That's maybe why I liked this one so much it wasn't so bubblegum pink which is beautiful but I don't usually gravitate towards that color. I would honestly probably like it better if it was a browner pink than a straight pink. Something about the color it was showing in the other pictures really struck me, maybe I should have been looking for an brownish pink or orange pink all along and didn't realize it until I saw this diamond. I almost asked for a 2 carat brown diamond for my engagement ring so it wouldn't be too far out of what I like if it turned out to be a brownish color. I just knew at the time that brown diamonds weren't worth much so I have a 1.3 carat oec in platinum. It's pretty safe compared to my later purchases.

 

[Bron357]

With eBay you’re quite well protected as a buyer. Most sellers are happy to take a return if the buyer isn’t happy, it’s just easier and more pleasant that way. You will have to pay return shipping though, I consider that fair (I’m both an eBay buyer and seller).
Just remember to send it back the same way received ie with tracked and signed for delivery (items over $750).
I’m sure GIA will check for lab or natural because it’s simple and easy to do. It being lab would not necessarily be a reason for “not as described” because they didn’t say natural, they just said diamond.
Hopefully you love it in person, if not reach out politely to the seller.

 

[TXwidow]

Post #14 the 'copied' listing states Natural.

 

[Bron357]

Post #14 the 'copied' listing states Natural.

Yeah, saw that after my earlier post.

 

[Rosiedovepink]

It passed the authentication process and should be here Thursday . I'm on pins and needles lol

 

[Rosiedovepink]

Ok, so I've only had it for a few hours now. The color is hard to describe and he was right it definitely changes colors in certain lighting. It makes me wonder if it is coated because sometimes it looks white with pink spots and then brown in some lights then almost morganite like in color. However, I've only seen fancy colored diamonds in small sizes and they were very yellow. I will post some pictures to see your opinions. I dont think I've looked at it long enough to make mine. We got it then went out in the snow and I've just got to a point I can even look at the pictures I took so I know my hands will be gnarly!

I appologize for so many pictures I just don't know how else to show the color change! Please forgive me if I went overboard! I can fix it if that's the case and delete some.

 

[Ibrakeforpossums]

Pinky brown and authenticated as diamond? I'd keep that. It's cool the way it changes.

 

[lovedogs]

I just am incredibly doubtful that it's natual. I think heavily treated or coated

 

[Dreamer_D]

Do you live the overall ring? The setting would cost more than you paid new so to some extent the diamond doesn’t matter at all. But if we are talking about the diamond I think it’s very strange, cannot imagine the color is natural, and I think it’s likely heavily treated as @lovedogs said

 

[Ibrakeforpossums]

Rosiedovepink, where are you with this ring today? Curious because I find it appealing.
One off, stray, imposter, I just like it.

 

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[Rosiedovepink]

Ok alittle update. I took it to one jeweler in my area who everyone knows and uses. I hadn't had good service from them in the past but wanted to take it to a few different jewelers. I told them I suspected it was coated and they told me they had never heard of a diamond being coated before and were alittle more than rude. They told me they could not even tell me if it was natural or lab grown. I walked out which I have never done so abruptly before but I was in shock.
The next jeweler have appraisers who atleast have taken GIA classes. I walked in and I told one of the women behind the counter what I was hoping to find out. She looked at it under a loupe and said she doesn't think it's coated. She said she has taken GIA courses and it looks like a natural color to her. She really recommended that I let their Gemologist appraise my ring. She thinks possibly heated but not coated. So I left it with them. It will take around two weeks to get the appraisal done.