elle_chris
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There is something wrong with that ASET picture (the first post image). There seems to be too much backlighting and it is obscuring the contrast between blue obstruction and red which is direct light return. The image is either out of focus or overpowered by background backlighting.Date: 10/7/2009 11:30:56 AM
Author:elle_chris
James Allen just emailed me the aset image and numbers for the pear i'm considering for mom. It's a .53, F, VS1 link
The images look good to me for a pear but I'm no expert. Any thoughts?
Good point!Date: 10/7/2009 1:11:33 PM
Author: oldminer
I admit to making very few grading decisions with ASET images, but I can''t see how anyone can recomend this stone based on the ASET image provided. It does have decent physical specs. I looked here: http://www.ideal-scope.com/1.using_reference_chart_ASET.asp and attempted to make some comparisons, but I would not want to endorse this diamond as reallly comparable to either of the top two graded images provided. Maybe someone, or a few of you, would give me some pointers on how the comparison is being made which allows for any accurate advice to be given. I''m always ready to learn a bit more. THANKS>>>
Concerning bow ties, it is always best to ask a vendor with the stone in hand to advise, you can't always tell from images to what extent they will show, plus they can look more pronounced when the diamond is slightly tilted in different positions, a bow tie in a pear can show more or less according to what position the diamond is in compared to a static image.Date: 10/7/2009 2:21:37 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
There is something wrong with that ASET picture (the first post image). There seems to be too much backlighting and it is obscuring the contrast between blue obstruction and red which is direct light return. The image is either out of focus or overpowered by background backlighting.Date: 10/7/2009 11:30:56 AM
Author:elle_chris
James Allen just emailed me the aset image and numbers for the pear i'm considering for mom. It's a .53, F, VS1 link
The images look good to me for a pear but I'm no expert. Any thoughts?
The constant issue with pairs is a bow tie which should manifest itself as blue(viewer head obstruction) in the ASET, and really the faceup image paralell to the girdle viewing angle is the most important for viewing how noticeable the bowties will be at the normal viewing angles.The key is to take a good aset with the girldle paralell to the lense and to have enough but not too much backlighting to get a good crisp image and contrast. I think JA should take the image again most of their ASET images are much better than this one.
If this were a well taken ASET than I'd say that is a fantastic pear and I see very little similarity to the second ASET image you posted below which would be a far inferior performing stone.
There is very little blue obstruction in the wider part where we would normally see obscuration and a bowtie and there is good distribution of red throughout. I am not a big fan of black background ASET though as it makes it harder to see leakage as opposed to white background, so I would request an idealscope as well to see which areas are also leaking light. The stone intially posted not the lower one looks promising to me so far.
Yes I wasn't too sure what to make of the image, I had some questions concerning it so looks like that is being addressed. I also want to say again kudos to James Allen for offering ASET images for fancy shapes!Date: 10/7/2009 3:17:43 PM
Author: elle_chris
ChunkyCushion- I emailed the SA asking about the ASET and also asked what their gemologist thought of it.
I'm beyond confused at this point. i thought it was a good aset but lorelei said decent, dave says he wouldn't recommend it based on the image, and you're saying there's something wrong with it. Not sure what to do..
Thats better, ask the gemologist at JA concerning the bow tie for sure and how much it shows - you cannot determine this by images. Its an attractive pear and the shape you want ( its shaped like mine too which to me is the "traditional" pear shape. I think it is a pretty stone. I have viewed lots of pears, own one and take a special interest in this shape, so I think it is definitely one of the better pears available in my experience.Date: 10/8/2009 6:30:36 PM
Author: elle_chris
got a new aset and image.. thoughts?
Some variance is normal between measurements in these cases, no worries Elle. Thats great you will see it in person, that will settle the question - let us know what you decide! I did have a look around and there doesn't seem to be much else fitting the bill right now in pears so this one is definitely worth serious consideration.Date: 10/9/2009 7:22:29 AM
Author: elle_chris
The odd thing is the GIA report shows the depth at 60.2, the OGI report at 59.
Jualianna their gemologist said the bow tie is minimum. I'll see it for myself today. The good thing is that JA keep their stones in NYC, so if I don't like it, I can return it in person without having to pay shipping charges.
I'm willing to up the budget for the stone to 1,600 but want it to have the same specs. Colorless, no lower than a VS2 and half a carat. I don't think that's too low from the prices I've seen but I want a particular shape for this pendant and that's where I'm having a problem.
Thanks for your replies CCL and Lorelei, much appreciated.
looks excellent to me.Date: 10/8/2009 6:30:36 PM
Author: elle_chris
got a new aset and image.. thoughts?
Look forward to hearing what you think!!Date: 10/9/2009 9:18:59 AM
Author: elle_chris
Lorelei- will have the diamond in a few hours!
Karl- Thanks for your imput. And a BIG congrats on your design. Hoping to make it out to GOG one day soon and see it in person. Looks freaking gorgeous from the video.
kewl let us know what you think.Date: 10/9/2009 9:18:59 AM
Author: elle_chris
Lorelei- will have the diamond in a few hours!
Got the pear!
My thoughts. First, I LOVE the shape. It's exactly what I wanted. It's also a very, very white stone. In fact, when I went looking at pears, none of them looked this brilliant to me. As it's been raining here for the last few days, I can't tell how the stone performs. The lighting in terrible here and even my H&A's look bad. Will take it out as soon as we have some sun. What I will say is that it's still a very bright stone even in this gloomy weather.
I took a few pics where the bow tie looks very prominent. But when viewing the stone in person, it's very faint. Not sure why it comes out so much in pictures.
So here's the first pic.
Its a BEAUTY!!!!!! LOVE it Elle, its a smashing choice!!!!Date: 10/10/2009 9:34:33 AM
Author: elle_chris
closer view.
only thing I regret is the stone isn''t bigger.. lol.. Am putting it on a DBTY platinum chain with 3point bezeled melee. I think mom''s gonna love it
That goes to prove that it isn't really advisable to judge bow ties from images, I have come across some with whopping bow ties in photographs which hardly showed in reality and vice versa!Date: 10/10/2009 9:31:29 AM
Author: elle_chris
here's another where the bow tie is very obvious. Again, it does not look like this in real life.