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Opinions on H&A RB please

jsa01

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Hi,

Ive been learning tons of great diamond info here over the past few months...this site is very addicting!

I like this stone and hope I can get some feedback.

carat: 0.865ct
colour: D
clarity: VVS2
cut: ACA H&A super ideal

Depth % 61.5
Table % 56.7
Crown Angle 34.9
Star 54.0
Pavilion Angle 40.8
Crown % 14.9
Lower Girdle % 78.0
Measurements 6.11x6.12x3.76
Culet Pointed
Fluorescence Negligible
Girdle Thin to Medium Faceted

price: $6500

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The inclusions are white in color.

Everything I have learned so far tells me this is a winner...I would appreciate some opinions from the experts - so I know that I am making a good decision.

Thanks in advance :)
 
this looks great. D VVS2 is a little overkill for some but if really high color and clarity is important to you then it looks like a winner!
 
Great looking stone. HCA 1.5 so passes the Hollaway test.

But I agree with the above poster. Unless you grade or sell diamonds for a living, you're not going to be able to tell the difference between a D and a H or even an I color diamond and if it's eye clean, an SI1 stone may look the same as a VVS2 to the naked eye. I guess it depends on what you're looking for but if it's just the look, I would suggest downgrading both color and clarity.
 
I disagree with half of the statement above.... some can see a difference once we compare an I to a D... but most of that difference is from the side or upside down view, rather than face up. Although I will say once I got to H, it was REALLY hard to tell the difference between that and a G the other day I was in the store. I actually ranked the H higher based on the random guessing game and was later corrected.

Clarity is where many of us can't see any difference, except within the price tag. An eye clean SI1 will be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than the same stone in VVS2.... yet you really won't be able to see any inclusions with the naked eye.
 
Not sure i agree with the above.

It's one thing evaluating a diamond's color by turning them upside down, placing it on a folded white sheet of paper, and comparing it to another diamonds... its another thing to evaluate color when its in a setting on someones finger with no other diamonds in site.

I would argue that very few (if any) can see yellow in a H (or i would argue even an I) color diamond if it has an excellent/ideal cut. It may seem slighly yellow if viewed from the side and on a white sheet of paper. Is that such a big deal?
 
What do you think girls do when they get together! Especially newly engaged girls! They compare their diamonds side by side.

"I" is when I'd start seeing a little bit of warmth. Also, if you have a setting that leaves the diamond open on the sides (most solitaire settings), then you will get a side view.

And trust me... there is a difference when side by side to your friend's D, F, E, G color.

IMO, it comes down to price difference... where H and G are going to be MUCH cheaper than F and above just because of the whole "colorless" grading they get. And once you reach this point, it's not worth the price difference IMO as you can hardly tell the differences at this point.

Some people are more color sensitive than others. I'd say you don't noticeably notice the warmth until you get to the J.. but I'd argue if you put an "I" and a "E" side by side on 2 girls fingers out to lunch one day... they'd be able to tell the difference.
 
Lovely stone jsa!


re colour - yes, D VVS is overkill from a performance or visual/aesthetic standpoint in this size range. But if it's what you want and it makes you happy, it's certainly a very rare combination ::)
 
Thanks for all the comments so far.

I am looking for something where I will NEVER see an inclusion (from any angle). Only because I would obsessively search for it.
So is VS1 still safe? VS2? I know VVS is generally looked at as overkill but I am paranoid.

As far as colour goes - I am comfortable with anything above G.

I found this stone which is similar to my original pick, only with G colour and slightly slightly smaller:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2428274.htm

You can definitely see the price difference from a D to a G....

If I stick with VVS2 clarity - do I even need to worry about what TYPE of inclusions there is (feather, cloud etc)? Or are they so small that light performance is not effected?

Thanks again!
 
jsa01|1292937196|2802660 said:
Thanks for all the comments so far.

I am looking for something where I will NEVER see an inclusion (from any angle). Only because I would obsessively search for it.


It sounds like clarity is of utmost importance to you.

I would highly recommend you have the diamond shipped to a 3rd party appraiser for you to have the opportunity to review all aspects of the diamond prior to purchase. You will most likely have to stay in the VVS / VS range unless you happen to find the proverbial needle in a hay stack. Even in those ranges, you should still consider reviewing them with an appraiser.

It's great to obsess over your diamond but don't put yourself in the position to obsess over its inclusions ;)
 
I think the stone's going to be drop dead gorgeous. Some of us are more color sensitive than others, and I wear a 'D' this same size. I can tell it from my 'I' even face-up and have no regrets that I sprung for the 'D'. Mine's an ACA too, so I know how pretty this one's going to be.
 
I own a one-carat I color. I can easily see the difference between my I (even though it's an ideal cut) and diamonds in the D-G range. By itself, it looks white. So if it's important to you that your gf's diamond look white when she compares it to her friends' rings, by all means go for G or above in color. H *might* be safe, but the larger the stone, the easier it is to see color differences.

ETA: You should be fine with VS1 clarity. But I also like the looks of the G VVS2 you just posted. That stone seems to be a good compromise for your budget, color, and clarity requirements.

ETA2: And I like the proportions of the G stone better than the D stone (nice high crown!). And, to answer your question about clarity, the inclusions in that VVS2 stone look like they will be difficult to spot even under a gem scope, which I think is 30X magnification. You certainly will have a hard time locating them under a 10X jewelry loupe. And at the VVS1 and VVS2 grades, the types of inclusions are not a big concern -- they tend to be very, very small pinpoints, clouds, needles, etc.
 
I think you chose a beautiful stone. If you want a super clean and colorless diamond, you found it! Of course, you could make a compromise, but in this case why would you? It's a very special diamond and because it is so well cut, it will sparkle like crazy. Many congrats :appl:
 
My diamond is a .90ct, E, VVS2, triple ex, GIA certified and it is also a H&A (verrified by an independent appraiser too). I'm telling you that i NEVER regretted getting the smaller stone in order to go so high in cut, clarity and color. Every time i'm out everybody's staring at my ring with amazement and when we compare rings with my friends or other ladies my stone is always the winner :praise: I can tell the difference in color with my friend's G stone (that one is a 1.03 ct), even though i have to admit that her diamond looks gorgeous too. In general, color and clarity are very important issues to me, because i care both about the things that i can see and the ones that i can't see, if i know that they're there :Up_to_something: I own other diamonds in lower clarities and colors, but those aren't my ER and that's why i don't mind...If color and clarity are very important to you, stick to your choice and go for it...I believe that this diamond will really reward you for choosing it the moment you take it in your hands :appl:
 
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