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Opinions on 0.84 excellent cut/I/SI2/strong blue fluor round

wright44

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Hey everyone:

I was fortunate enough to stumble across this forum while searching for a diamond for an engagement ring to propose to my girlfriend. I must have spent 20 hours reading other threads and I feel much more confident about choosing a diamond now. However, I still wanted to run my potential choice by you guys since you have been so helpful to so many people.

I came into the search prior to Pricescope with a $2,000 budget for the diamond (she prefers to spend the big bucks on colored stones but still wants to go the diamond route on the engagement ring). I want a round stone between 0.75 - 1 carats with as great a cut as possible and am not too picky on the other stats as long as it is eye clean and reasonably colorless. After reading up on (strong/very strong) fluor and telling my girlfriend about we both decided it was something we definitely wanted if just for the novelty. Although the potential color benefits certainly don't hurt!

OK enough background...these are the stone stats:

Shape: Round
Carat weight: 0.84
Cut: Premium
Color: I
Clarity: SI2
Certificate: GIA

Depth: 60.0%
Table: 61.0%
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Girdle: Thin to medium, faceted
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Strong
Measurements: 6.12*6.16*3.68


Link to stone
Link to GIA cert


OK, so my main questions:

1) Cut - I was initially hoping for a H&A cut, but could not find any near my desired specs within the price range (no fluor either). To my inexperienced eye the facet patterning/reflections/shadows (not sure what to call them) look very appealing and better than some of the James Allen "Ideal" cuts. Are my eyes fooling me and is there anything about the cut that looks wonky? The center of the stone looks like Pac-Man instead of a complete circle...is this anything to be concerned about?

2) Inclusions - On the GIA cert there is one large feather and a few smaller ones. I can easily see the large one with the virtual loupe but am guessing that it would be almost impossible to notice in real life - am I right to assume this? There is also a round "indented natural" on the cert (what is an indented natural?) but I can not find it using the virtual loupe...does this mean it is not visible from the face up view?

3) Do you have any clue whether James Allen takes their pictures under any amount of UV light? Is the yellow tint I see around the edges of the stone the worst case scenario as far as color goes?

4) Any other comments??? I feel that I did my homework, but I've never studied a diamond up close :oops: By the way, she and her family are all gemstone nuts who come from southeast Asia so I will be judged! Luckily they aren't into diamonds =)
 
Re: Opinions on 0.84 excellent cut/I/SI2/strong blue fluor r

Looks promising.

Ask JA to get an idealscope image and to have the gemologist have a look at it to see if the stone is eye-clean and if the feather has any durability issue.

EDT:
Indented natural
http://www.niceice.com/diamond_clarity_characteristics.htm

And also ask about the flour if it is an over-blue, that turns the stone milky/oily in the presence of UV, not common but it can happen.
 
Re: Opinions on 0.84 excellent cut/I/SI2/strong blue fluor r

Ask to your jeweler about the % of the table. It's really large and I don't want you to have an eye fish diamond! Plus, the fluor is very risky with a SI2 clarity. Sometimes you can have a beautiful stone sometimes an ugly...really ugly!
 
Re: Opinions on 0.84 excellent cut/I/SI2/strong blue fluor r

Ditto on the table being large. This article seems to agree with what most people on PS recommend as being good RB percentages:

http://www.diamondarticles.com/diamond-proportions.php

I would ask whether it is an overblue as another person here suggested, but statistically speaking it would be rare for it to be an overblue. I have a GIA very strong blue diamond myself (it's also an I color) and I'm so happy with it.
 
Re: Opinions on 0.84 excellent cut/I/SI2/strong blue fluor r

It looks like it could be a good stone. Ditto Stone-cold on checking on the feather affecting the integrity of the stone.

This stone has a large table because it is a 60/60 type cut (60 table; 60 depth). Nothing wrong with that type of cut as long as the rest of the proportions work (which the Idealscope from JA will show).

The "Pacman" looking circle in the center of the stone is no doubt due to table reflection, which all diamonds have; the larger the table, the larger the "circle." It's obvious in the photo because of the particular photo set-up that JA uses (which is why the edges of the diamond look darker/yellowish -- it's the photo quality, not the diamond color that you're seeing).

Clarity and fluorescence are two different things, so I don't think the fluoro will affect the clarity or vice versa. Any experts reading this, please correct me if I'm wrong.

I have an I color, I1 clarity stone with strong blue fluorescence that is eye-clean to my eyes and the fluoro adds a very nice whitening effect, and it looks very cool under a black light or in strong sunlight!
 
Re: Opinions on 0.84 excellent cut/I/SI2/strong blue fluor r

Yeah, the table sounds far too large.
 
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