Opinions/help on round 1.01 D VVS2 lab diamond

[Jacob123]

Hi. First time poster here. I know little about diamonds except the basics I've read recently and could use your expert opinions.

Diamond: IGI 468109487, 1.01 carat, D, VVS2, ideal cut

It has a Holloway cut advisor score of 1.5 with three of the factors listed as very good and one excellent. Since this is below 2, the guidance is that this is good. Are very good factors distinguishable from excellent factors?

This diamond was suggested as the center stone for a ring for $2150. Compared to similar stones on adiamor, it seems to have a ~$400 markup. Since the ring is being custom made, I'd prefer to avoid the hassle of ordering and sending a center stone to the jeweler and then incurring a setting fee anyway. I'm willing to accept the markup for the convenience.

Besides the markup, I would like opinions on whether this is a good diamond for an ~reasonable price. Any negatives that anyone could point out which a novice would miss?

Thank you.

 

[DejaWiz]

Welcome to PriceScope, Jacob123!
The proportions aren't very good for a ring, in my opinion.
Pavilion angle too steep and crown angle too shallow along with a wider 58.5% table.

Diamond Proportions

The physics of light-behavior within a diamond are reliably consistent, which means proportions measurements can be useful.

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Pre-existing laser inscription on the girdle, so who knows where this diamond came from, how many hands its changed, or how old it is.

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We can help you find an amazing diamond, if you can provide us with a bit of info:
1. Budget cap
2. Max color grade
3. Max clarity grade
4. Are you in a locale that has shipping/import/customs taxes and fees that need to be factored in to the final price?

 

[DejaWiz]

Ideally, try to find a diamond with the following proportions and angles:

Crown angle: 34-35°
Pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9°
Table width: 54-58°
There is an inverse relationship to keep in mind...when the pavilion angle is a little shallower (say 40.6°), then stick with a crown angle of around 35° (up to 35.5-36.0° may be OK, depending on some other factors).
If the PA is slightly steeper (say 40.8-40.9°), then try to stick with a CA of 34-35°.

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[Jacob123]

Welcome to PriceScope, Jacob123!
The proportions aren't very good for a ring, in my opinion.
Pavilion angle too steep and crown angle too shallow along with a wider 58.5% table.

Diamond Proportions

The physics of light-behavior within a diamond are reliably consistent, which means proportions measurements can be useful.

www.pricescope.com

Pre-existing laser inscription on the girdle, so who knows where this diamond came from, how many hands its changed, or how old it is.

Verify Your Report

Ensure authenticity & accuracy of your report here. Verify your gemstone report online for complete confidence in your precious investments.

www.igi.org

We can help you find an amazing diamond, if you can provide us with a bit of info:
1. Budget cap
2. Max color grade
3. Max clarity grade
4. Are you in a locale that has shipping/import/customs taxes and fees that need to be factored in to the final price?

Thank you very much for the quick reply and information. I see that I overlooked the recommended proportions table. Shouldn't that be reflected in a lower HCA score though?

If you could recommend a 1-1.5 ct diamond:
1. Budget: $2800
2. Color: E-D
3. VVS preferred (maybe VS1)
4. Locale with no taxes/customs/fees
I would very much appreciate it.

 

[DejaWiz]

Thank you very much for the quick reply and information. I see that I overlooked the recommended proportions table. Shouldn't that be reflected in a lower HCA score though?

If you could recommend a 1-1.5 ct diamond:
1. Budget: $2800
2. Color: E-D
3. VVS preferred (maybe VS1)
4. Locale with no taxes/customs/fees
I would very much appreciate it.

Found a few that you may want to take a closer look at.
Ask for pictures/video of the first one.

1.44 Carat E VVS2 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond IGI Certified 508141215 Affinity Cut - D49607577

1.44 carat, Round, E Color, VVS2 clarity, IGI Certified Diamond, Affinity Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D49607577

www.adiamor.com

1.41 Carat D VS1 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond IGI Certified 524240192 Affinity Cut - D50281362

1.41 carat, Round, D Color, VS1 clarity, IGI Certified Diamond, Affinity Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D50281362

www.adiamor.com

1.40 Carat D VVS2 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond IGI Certified 502110025 Affinity Cut - D49535598

1.40 carat, Round, D Color, VVS2 clarity, IGI Certified Diamond, Affinity Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D49535598

www.adiamor.com

 

[Jacob123]

Ideally, try to find a diamond with the following proportions and angles:

Crown angle: 34-35°
Pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9°
Table width: 54-58°
There is an inverse relationship to keep in mind...when the pavilion angle is a little shallower (say 40.6°), then stick with a crown angle of around 35° (up to 35.5-36.0° may be OK, depending on some other factors).
If the PA is slightly steeper (say 40.8-40.9°), then try to stick with a CA of 34-35°.

Diamond Search Results | Real-time Information on 1,000,000+ Diamonds | PriceScope

PriceScope's Diamond Search is the best place to find the best diamond prices. Search and compare over a million natural, lab and fancy color diamonds.

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This one seem to fit the criteria for $2100. Would you recommend it?

 

[Kim N]

This one seem to fit the criteria for $2100. Would you recommend it?

That one is much nicer than the first one you posted. Do you have a vendor photo or video?

 

[DejaWiz]

This one seem to fit the criteria for $2100. Would you recommend it?

Based on the proportions and angles, very likely, Do you have a link to a photo/video portfolio of this one? The grading report is only one piece of the puzzle - assessing it visually (and taking it a step further with ASET and/or Ideal-Scope images) is crucial to ensure there's nothing wonky going on.

 

[Kim N]

Thank you very much for the quick reply and information. I see that I overlooked the recommended proportions table. Shouldn't that be reflected in a lower HCA score though?

We usually like to see Excellent for Light Return, Fire, and Scintillation, and Very Good for Spread.

If you could recommend a 1-1.5 ct diamond:
1. Budget: $2800
2. Color: E-D
3. VVS preferred (maybe VS1)
4. Locale with no taxes/customs/fees
I would very much appreciate it.

Take a look at these.

1.38 Carat D VS1 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GCAL Certified 320483255 Good Cut - D50181896

1.38 carat, Round, D Color, VS1 clarity, GCAL Certified Diamond, Good Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D50181896

www.adiamor.com

1.37 Carat D VS1 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GCAL Certified 313160527 Affinity Cut - D49724498

www.adiamor.com

1.33 Carat D VS1 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GCAL Certified 313160503 Affinity Cut - D49723874

www.adiamor.com

1.32 Carat D VS1 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GCAL Certified 313481975 Affinity Cut - D49724160

www.adiamor.com

 

[Jacob123]

That one is much nicer than the first one you posted. Do you have a vendor photo or video?

Thank you. The videos are here:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-cut-sku-13727891?uniqueID=zk60s113g_14063492

I must say that I do not know what exactly to look for in the videos.

 

[DejaWiz]

Kim N I was just about to post that beautiful 1.38 D VS1 with the GCAL 8X cert - you beat me to it!

Jacob123 I think it represents a MUCH better value than the 1.11 D VVS2, plus GCAL already provides all the advanced images on their cert page:

Gem Certification & Assurance Lab

www.gcalusa.com

 

[Kim N]

Thank you. The videos are here:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-cut-sku-13727891?uniqueID=zk60s113g_14063492

I must say that I do not know what exactly to look for in the videos.

It's a beautiful diamond. But I think you can get more bang for your buck at Adiamor.

 

[Kim N]

Jacob, if you find one you really like, I highly recommend you put it on hold so that it doesn't get bought out from under you.

 

[Kim N]

If you prefer to stick with James Allen for convenience and are okay with the premium, then here are a few to peruse.

Lab-Created 1.37 Carat round diamond

This 1.37 carat Lab-Created round diamond D color vs1 clarity has Ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from IGI

www.jamesallen.com

Lab-Created 1.28 Carat round diamond

This 1.28 carat Lab-Created round diamond D color vvs2 clarity has Ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from IGI

www.jamesallen.com

Lab-Created 1.27 Carat round diamond

This 1.27 carat Lab-Created round diamond D color vvs2 clarity has Ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from IGI

www.jamesallen.com

Lab-Created 1.26 Carat round diamond

This 1.26 carat Lab-Created round diamond D color vs1 clarity has Ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from IGI

www.jamesallen.com

Lab-Created 1.20 Carat round diamond

This 1.2 carat Lab-Created round diamond D color vvs2 clarity has Ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from IGI

www.jamesallen.com

 

[Jacob123]

Jacob, if you find one you really like, I highly recommend you put it on hold so that it doesn't get bought out from under you.

Thank you Kim and DejaWiz. You have made great recommendations. I really like the 1.38 D VS1 with the GCAL 8X cert .

I don't see an option to place it on hold on the Adiamor website. Is that something a representative will do if I call?

 

[Kim N]

Thank you Kim and DejaWiz. You have made great recommendations. I really like the 1.38 D VS1 with the GCAL 8X cert .

I don't see an option to place it on hold on the Adiamor website. Is that something a representative will do if I call?

You're very welcome! Yes, I'm sure a rep can do that if you call or chat.

 

[DejaWiz]

Thank you Kim and DejaWiz. You have made great recommendations. I really like the 1.38 D VS1 with the GCAL 8X cert .

I don't see an option to place it on hold on the Adiamor website. Is that something a representative will do if I call?

Kim N said it best...You can call, email, or chat with them to put it on hold/reserve:

https://server4.clickandchat.com/newchat/mobile.aspx?domain=www.adiamor.com&t=1652322065151

Not sure what their operating hours are, but try the chat and, if that doesn't go through at this hour, then sent an email and follow up with a chat first thing in the morning.
Diligence and speed are crucial for securing a diamond since you are potentially competing with hundreds to thousands of anonymous visitors looking for diamonds both here and at their website. Diamond sniping happens all too often!

 

[DejaWiz]

What's the good word, Jacob123?