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Hey all! I'm a lurker who has decided to take a plunge into marriage and I would appreciate any advice! So I have a budget of about $3600 USD. I've been looking at a square cushion cut (mostly due to what I've been reading in this forum, so thanks!). I ended up looking at a few on James Allen (referral from here, so double thanks!) and asked them for an ASET. Honestly I have no idea what I'm looking at...I've attached all three here, but I'm not really sure if they are a decent buy, so any feedback is appreciated!

Diamond 1: 0.96 carat-I-VVS2 - $3,060

Diamond 2: 1.01 carat-I-VS2 - $3,560

Diamond 3: 0.90 carat-I-VS2 - $3,470

Or none of these? Thanks everyone!

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confusedpanda|1401009405|3679607 said:
Hey all! I'm a lurker who has decided to take a plunge into marriage and I would appreciate any advice! So I have a budget of about $3600 USD. I've been looking at a square cushion cut (mostly due to what I've been reading in this forum, so thanks!). I ended up looking at a few on James Allen (referral from here, so double thanks!) and asked them for an ASET. Honestly I have no idea what I'm looking at...I've attached all three here, but I'm not really sure if they are a decent buy, so any feedback is appreciated!

Diamond 1: 0.96 carat-I-VVS2 - $3,060

Diamond 2: 1.01 carat-I-VS2 - $3,560

Diamond 3: 0.90 carat-I-VS2 - $3,470

Or none of these? Thanks everyone!
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Hi confusedpanda and welcome!

Well you don't appear to be that confused to me, out of the three, two have definite potential looking at the ASET images. For me, I would pass on the first looking at the image. The second is the pick of the bunch in my opinion, the ASET looks good as does the third, but I would say the second stone has the edge.

As you mention you are not sure what you are looking at, check out this tutorial which will give you an understanding of how reflector images work.

http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=education-performance

Just as a thought, unless you prefer to stick to VS or VVS clarity grades, you could consider verified eye clean SI clarity grades, but this is a personal choice.


I hope this helps!
 
Dear OP, out of your selection my pick would also be No. 2. I think the options Lorelei suggested to you are very nice, I especially like No.2. and No.3.
 
No. 2 looks mushy to me :confused:
 
Fancygems|1401034646|3679710 said:
No. 2 looks mushy to me :confused:
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Hi Fancy,

I have seen this term ' mushy' being used recently, but I am not too sure what folk mean by this unless it's referring to paler leakage areas on white backlit ASET images? Not seeing that on number 2, maybe you could enlighten me on the mush-isms please so I know what it's referring to! :D I am not well up on some of the most recent PS speak!
 
#2 and #3 look good.

Depends what look you are after. #3 for chunkier, slower scintillation. #2 has some slight crushed ice going on under the table, and looks like it is a faster scintillation.
 
Oh, good find msop
 
Hi Lorelei, :appl:
I meant to follow this cushion thread [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/trying-to-decide-between-two-cushions-with-aset-help.202156/#post-3678633#p3678633']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/trying-to-decide-between-two-cushions-with-aset-help.202156/#post-3678633#p3678633[/URL] where the second ASET is displaying "mush" [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-experts-test-your-cushion-knowledge-with-pics.167177/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-experts-test-your-cushion-knowledge-with-pics.167177/[/URL] and [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/mush-in-cushions-and-aset.177647/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/mush-in-cushions-and-aset.177647/[/URL]
another example here: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11936/
 
Hi Fancy,

I get it, there could be truth to that in all honesty but do you mean OP's selection or Lorelei's recommendations? I also wondered if you meant on the ASET or images? On photos I often get mushiness when there is not IRL but diamonds are extremely hard to photograph and you can get a single sharp facet and the rest is mushy or certain facets turn mushy on photos. I also think that based on my experience if we are talking about mushiness on photos then sometimes a cloud can cause that, which does not of course mean that light return is perfect there otherwise and if mushiness shows on the photo it does not mean it is not there IRL. Sometimes photos really emphasize the most minute weaknesses of a stone but this can be a good way to get a different perspective. Thanks for chiming in.
 
Fancygems|1401074828|3680089 said:
Hi Lorelei, :appl:
I meant to follow this cushion thread [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/trying-to-decide-between-two-cushions-with-aset-help.202156/#post-3678633#p3678633']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/trying-to-decide-between-two-cushions-with-aset-help.202156/#post-3678633#p3678633[/URL] where the second ASET is displaying "mush" [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-experts-test-your-cushion-knowledge-with-pics.167177/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-experts-test-your-cushion-knowledge-with-pics.167177/[/URL] and [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/mush-in-cushions-and-aset.177647/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/mush-in-cushions-and-aset.177647/[/URL]
another example here: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11936/
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Thank you kindly Fancy, I appreciate it! I am not well up on the lingo nowadays....
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OVincze|1401077779|3680112 said:
Hi Fancy,

I get it, there could be truth to that in all honesty but do you mean OP's selection or Lorelei's recommendations? I also wondered if you meant on the ASET or images? On photos I often get mushiness when there is not IRL but diamonds are extremely hard to photograph and you can get a single sharp facet and the rest is mushy or certain facets turn mushy on photos. I also think that based on my experience if we are talking about mushiness on photos then sometimes a cloud can cause that, which does not of course mean that light return is perfect there otherwise and if mushiness shows on the photo it does not mean it is not there IRL. Sometimes photos really emphasize the most minute weaknesses of a stone but this can be a good way to get a different perspective. Thanks for chiming in.
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Thanks for the useful info OVi, very good to bear in mind!
 
First of all, thank you everybody for your feedback. My girlfriend was in town, and I'm horrible at hiding things, so I wasn't able to respond with her around. I'll reply to each of your comments individually, but I just wanted to send a general message saying thanks to all of you! :wavey:
 
Lorelei|1401015985|3679636 said:
confusedpanda|1401009405|3679607 said:
Hey all! I'm a lurker who has decided to take a plunge into marriage and I would appreciate any advice! So I have a budget of about $3600 USD. I've been looking at a square cushion cut (mostly due to what I've been reading in this forum, so thanks!). I ended up looking at a few on James Allen (referral from here, so double thanks!) and asked them for an ASET. Honestly I have no idea what I'm looking at...I've attached all three here, but I'm not really sure if they are a decent buy, so any feedback is appreciated!

Diamond 1: 0.96 carat-I-VVS2 - $3,060

Diamond 2: 1.01 carat-I-VS2 - $3,560

Diamond 3: 0.90 carat-I-VS2 - $3,470

Or none of these? Thanks everyone!
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Hi confusedpanda and welcome!

Well you don't appear to be that confused to me, out of the three, two have definite potential looking at the ASET images. For me, I would pass on the first looking at the image. The second is the pick of the bunch in my opinion, the ASET looks good as does the third, but I would say the second stone has the edge.

As you mention you are not sure what you are looking at, check out this tutorial which will give you an understanding of how reflector images work.

http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=education-performance

Just as a thought, unless you prefer to stick to VS or VVS clarity grades, you could consider verified eye clean SI clarity grades, but this is a personal choice.


I hope this helps!
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Hello Lorelei! Thanks for the feedback! I took a look at the link and I think I definitely have a better understanding of what I'm looking at now. Do you think the image of the second diamond is typical of the price range I'm in? Basically, is it a good purchase for the money? I've done the best I can to cut corners on things that wouldn't make much difference.

I think your tip to look at verified eye clean SI rather than VS or VVS is really helpful. I was just worried about purchasing something that wasn't eye clean only to find it has something that wasn't eye clean.

I'll keep hunting! Thanks again!
 
Lorelei|1401016444|3679637 said:
I just thought I would add a few more selections for you.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11807/ would need to check with Jon this stone is eye clean.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10886/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10696/ This one is a J colour but it gets you closer to a carat.
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Thanks for these! The third one looks enticing...I saw a video from the owner of Good Old Gold about diamond color that was really helpful. I'm definitely looking at something closer to a carat just because of the setting I'm looking at:

http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=358
 
OVincze|1401021622|3679655 said:
Dear OP, out of your selection my pick would also be No. 2. I think the options Lorelei suggested to you are very nice, I especially like No.2. and No.3.
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Hello OVincze! Thanks for the feedback! I'll take a hard look at No. 2 versus the two that Lorelei suggested...I think right now it's gonna be between No. 2 versus No. 3 that Lorelei suggested...
 
What are the dimensions of #2 and #3?
 
msop04|1401037513|3679732 said:
Hi panda!! (and I don't think you're confused at all!!) ;))

If you could stretch your budge just a bit, this is one of the nicest cushions I've seen on JA... remember, PS members get a small discount with JA.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/0.90-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-sku-319977 $3950

I will continue to look... :))
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Hello msop04! That does look nice... :love: I think I used up all my requests for ASET though. You think it would be okay to purchase without any kind of light analysis? Thanks for the find!
 
Fancygems|1401074828|3680089 said:
Hi Lorelei, :appl:
I meant to follow this cushion thread [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/trying-to-decide-between-two-cushions-with-aset-help.202156/#post-3678633#p3678633']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/trying-to-decide-between-two-cushions-with-aset-help.202156/#post-3678633#p3678633[/URL] where the second ASET is displaying "mush" [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-experts-test-your-cushion-knowledge-with-pics.167177/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-experts-test-your-cushion-knowledge-with-pics.167177/[/URL] and [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/mush-in-cushions-and-aset.177647/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/mush-in-cushions-and-aset.177647/[/URL]
another example here: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11936/
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Hello Fancygems! Thanks for the feedback. I read over your links and it definitely helps explain what the "mush" is. I think if I go with any of the three it will be the third one... Thanks again!
 
JulieN|1401495914|3683533 said:
What are the dimensions of #2 and #3?
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Hi JulieN! Thanks for all the feedback! From what I remember from one of the Youtube videos from Good Old Gold "crushed ice" is generally a bad thing right? I think you said No. 2 is displaying that...The dimensions are:

No. 2:
L/W/D (mm): 5.81*5.54*3.85
http://goo.gl/FfZokD

No. 3:
L/W/D (mm): 5.58*5.44*3.75
http://goo.gl/T1Tbk3

Thanks for all your help! This is pretty interesting stuff, but it helps to have some expert feedback! :twirl:
 
1 is crushed ice. 2 is not. It has a little bit.
 
JulieN|1401497572|3683551 said:
1 is crushed ice. 2 is not. It has a little bit.
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Ahhh...I see...the one with lots of green is going to be crushed ice. Thank you!
 
green and black kind of mixing together.
 
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