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winyan

winyan

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Though I''m very, very boring, except in heritage.

I''m 1/2 American Indian (Unkpapa Lakotah) and 1/2 Northern Italian, (the blonde, blue-eyed kind) somewhere near the Doge Palace, apparently.

I am just a consumer, with a mad, wild passion for sparklies, and have had the obsession since about age 3. I spent most of my growing up, picking up ''stuff'', "diamonds" to my young uneducated eyes, and according to my Mother, apparently mostly doggie doo.

I''m on the right coast, have been a taxpayer since the tender age of 14, did all my upper educational endeavors part time, (still a consuming passion, with a yen to take the GIA colored gem stone classes), and probably will continue to do so, once I find some re-employment. Been downsized 4 times...this in an almost 40 year work history. Ok, so I gave away my age, who cares these days. I keep hearing 50 is the ''new'' 30; sure hope ''they'' are right. I keep active, work out every day (though I really hate it), just to keep in shape for X-country skiing. My avatar *is* me, just about 5 years ago, (thanking my ancestors on my Dad''s side for the youth genes). I think most of you have seen most of my sparklies. I also have a mad passion for pad sapphires, and colored diamonds.

win
 
No! Win, I always assumed your avatar was some turn of the century (uh, turn of the 20th, not 21st) photo of some pretty young, Native American miss. Gee, I hope I look like that even at 40 much less 50!
 
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*grin* you probably will since mainstream anthropologists hold that old 'land-bridge' theory close to their hearts.

I imagine according to them, at least, our genes are similar.

win

PS Check out Louis Leakey's pet theories.
 
No Richard, afraid not, as a teenager, subject to a rather overbearing Mother, my hair was never so long. Until the summer of '01, it reached to my hips, 3 feet of long black hair. Then I found I had to have some serious surgery, (deteriorating pulmonary valve, from two many years of asthma inhalers), I cut it off, knowing not only would it be a tangled mess while I was so ill, but due to a restriction in protein intake, would be falling out. So now it's shortish again, (Mom would be so proud, *ugh*).

win
 
win,

Even though I asked about your avatars (past and present) I forgot (if I ever took it in) that that picture was actually you. It seems incredible to me, too. Somehow I thought it was someone else entirely. Maybe because you used to use an avatar of a dancer who *wasn't* you?

You do, indeed, look like a teenager!

Deb
 
Ok, I did use the 'dancer' avatar cause she looked vaguely AI to me. *grin*...also cause I had some 17 years of dance background.

But this one is me. Or at least as I looked up till the ripe old age of 52.

Now two years later, I have shortish reddish hair (mostly because after the surgery the stupid stuff grew in with a lot of gray.)...and since my eyes are very greenish hazel and my skin a weird shade of goldish apricot, I figured I could get away with reddish auburnish hair. I have pics of me on my diggie cam that show me skiing, but since I'm totally wrapped up in winter clothing you can't see much more than a powder blue blur.

I promise, if I get a decent pic of this weird cat face, I'll post it. However if you can picture my avatar with short reddish hair and more pronounced cheekbones (face thinned after surgery, I finally lost the baby fat in my cheeks) you can imagine me.

win
 
Win, you've got to post a photo. I have to make the adjustment from teenager to 54 year old in my mind.

Is it the Indian blood that keeps you young?
 
Yet another really cool, interesting history.
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Like everyone else, I thought that photograph was of you at the age of around sixteen.
 
I think so, Richard, the Indian blood is definitely a life saver if I don't spend time outdoors, getting more brown, and getting smoke swept, as I am prone to do. I do have a lodge, and have done historical recreations (another good reason for keeping the long black hair), but haven't in the past few years, so my skin has lightened to the weird color mentioned above.

Oddly enough, despite all my history, I *don't* feel my age at all, (except in the right knee, damage from too many years en point). My mind feels 23 or so, and the body still feels like it can keep on; so hopefully it will! I just had a checkup (after the surgery I have to go a few times a year) and though my heart still has a few extra beats, my blood work was next to perfect. I'm lucky, (again, genetically) that despite being an avid meat eater (remember, I'm only one generation removed from hunter gatherer lifestyle), my cloresterol is around 125-135 and only that high because hdl is very high. Everything else is like a 20 year old. If I'm very lucky, I'll make it to my great grandmother's age of 102...or her sister's daughter's age of 104, or my Aunt who is now in her late 90's.

I promise, I'll get a pic up, soon!

win
 
Win, I too thought your avatar was a picture of you in your teenage. Very cool!

But tell me, do you speak Italian?? Parli italiano?
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Just a very little bit, I'm sorry to say, Giangi. I understand some spoken Italian, but other than the usual greetings, I know little. I probably can read some, since I can read French and Spanish in moderation. My mother, though first generation born in America, didn't speak Italian either. Her Mother, a schoolteacher from Venice, believed in adapting to the ways of the 'New country' and only spoke English to her husband and children.

I did grow up, however, listening to my Grandfather's tales of Dante and his Inferno, which sparked my imagination. Dante was my Grandfather's favorite author, enough so that he named his youngest son 'Dante' and the name continues in the family.

win
 
Oh win, you mean the 'Divina Commedia'? I love it too!
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Cool! I'm glad to hear that you speak a little italian! Ciao!
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Dear Winyan,
Hey nice to read your short bio...wish it was longer though...you are such an interesting person. So far, I know you like colored gems and that you are very intelligent (PhD), but I still don't know where you are located. Where do you reside if you don't mind me asking? I was very suprised that your avatar is a picture of you not too long ago. I agree with all the other responders. You do look very young in your avatar. You really do look like a teenager. Lucky you for having the fountain of youth on your side. Yeah, it's kind of cool to a certain degree I suppose. The first time I went to a optometrist in my area, the eye doctor thought I didn't come with my parents. So he asked where they were. I told him that I thought I was old enough to go see the eye doctor on my own. He asked my age, and I told him. His staff and him chuckled because they all said that I looked like I was 14. Ahhh, I guess I won't have to use any pearl cream for my aging years.
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Anyway, I think you are blessed with beautiful genes. I guess we'll all be waiting for the new pics of you soon. I'm sure you'll keep us in awe.
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Let us know your secrets of staying and looking young.
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Hi there JG!

In response to your question, I'm in NJ, my father's family having drifted East after the 1st Wounded Knee, in 1890. They settled on a communal family farm in Sussex County NJ, and raised veggies and horses. My Dad used to drive a herd of horses down from Sussex County into Newark to sell to the wagon peddlers who still existed in the early 1920's. It would take him 3 days to get a herd of 10-20 horses down the 50 miles or so to Newark. Needless to say, there were few highways back in those days.

He managed to get into some bad trouble when he was 15, and after a rather drawn out period of societal repayment, he ended up working in a CCC camp, and later, in Bayonne working in the factory where my Mother was an employee. They married, he, 10 years older than she, and didn't have me for another 10 years or so.

So technically, I'm the first in my family to have as much as a high school diploma, never mind advanced degrees.

At any rate, here I be.

win
 
Wow, with your PhD I can say you really went past the high school diploma mark. Hey, have you ever been to Princeton? I had a friend up there, and I stopped by the area back in the mid-1990s. All I can say is "Beautiful."
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It is a very nice place. Although, I must say that it is much different than Newark. Maybe I will visit Princeton again in the future. Both the school and the community are nice and quaint. I'm sure you've gone by the area. Thanks for your lively posts.
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Actually JG I worked in Lawrenceville, at the Lawrenceville Prep School, (aka L'ville) for about a year. While there, I was an advocate for the AI scholarship fund, an agent emeriti from Prudential founded, as well as a mentor to the AI students. Oddly enough, the school itself was founded to educate Cherokee and Choctaw youth, and suddenly became the 'fashionable' place for the rich to send their young men, (and in the late 1980's, their young women.) Some of the graduates are folks like the current William Randolph Hearst, his grand-daughter, Patti Hurst's daughter, Michael Eisner, the scions of the duPont fortune, and oddly enough, another graduate, under his rl name, not his stage name of Huey Lewis.

I know Princeton well, love the area. I actually reside about 35 miles due North of Princeton, off Route 206.

win
 
Nice reading more about you Win, Where's that photo?
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*LOL* Josh, still stuck in the digi cam...we just unearthed my SO's charger for his cell phone, that was lost a couple of years, now maybe I'll find the transformer for the digi cam!

win
 
Dont worry win your 19 at heart :}
 
Win, How fascinating! I suppose most of us thought that is too young a person to be older than teens. I sure did! You sound fascinating, thanks for sharing! Maybe one day you'll write a bio and we can buy a copy and read? Do post some pics when you get to!
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Hi Folks...

I said I'd post this when I finally got the pics downloaded from my digi cam.

Well here it tis...it's the most recent digital pic of me skiing in NH, Waterville Valley to be precise.

win

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Cool picture win. OK give it up, now that you got the dig cam working, you've got some catching up to do. Post those pics!!
 
*LOL* that's exactly what I intend doing later today, Kmom!

Since we got another 6 inches overnight here in NWNJ, I'm going skiing first!

win
 
Like everyone else, I thought you were much younger, Win!! It must be the LaKohtah genes!! There is supposed to be some Indian heritage in my father's line, although the geneology buff hasn't found it yet. But my father's people all looked great well into their 80's and beyond. Dad died when he was 56 and looked like he was in his 30's.

So good to hear more about you!! And see you enjoying the snow!!
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Where is your family from, PC? I have contacts/friends, in most of the states/Nations. I've been around native matters a long time.

If your family name is on the Dawes Roll (1932 or thereabouts) there's a good chance you can (depending on the nation), claim enrollment in that Nation.

win
 
Thanks Dave!!...I probably look so happy cause I'm in my favorite place, a nice soft snowfall!

win
 


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On 3/25/2004 7:27:55 PM winyan wrote:





Where is your family from, PC? I have contacts/friends, in most of the states/Nations. I've been around native matters a long time.

If your family name is on the Dawes Roll (1932 or thereabouts) there's a good chance you can (depending on the nation), claim enrollment in that Nation.

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Hi Win,



I was wondering if you might know how I would go about finding what Native American Indian tribe that my great grandmother was a part of. My family was from Kentucky. Unfortunately, there are no clear records of her heritage. My grandfather was born in 1900 so my great grandmother would have be born possibly in the late 1870's or early 1880's. It would be great if you could point me in the right direction! Thank you, Win.






 
Hiya Icelady...

Hmmm, Kentucky is a bit problematic, because many nations claimed it as 'their' hunting ground. Most likely it's Shawnee or Choctaw, perhaps Cherokee (Tsalagi). I'll check around, see what I can come up with.

win
 
Thanks Win, I really appreciate that!
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