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New terrorist attack & a great night out...

Ally T

Ally T

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So tonight, after alluding me for 12 years due to me being over sees or on holiday, my husband surprised me with tickets to see Robbie Williams in Manchester. It was THE most awesome night, culminating with lots of snot from me as he sang Hey Jude, which was played at my fathers funeral 15 years ago. The security officer in the High Visibility vest handed me tissues. It was emotional & awesome & everything I wanted Robbie to be...

We get home to the news of terrorist attacks in London. A van has run into pedestrians & then people got out of that van & started to stab people. There are multiple fatalities. I am saddened & shocked & disgusted...
 
It is awful. Just awful. Thinking of those poor people and their families.
 
This is terrible.

It keeps getting worse as more news comes out. I am so sad for the people of the UK right now.
 
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I am shocked and saddened as well. There are really no words. It is so hard to understand any of this, or know how to combat it. We cannot live in fear, nor can we condone fear-inspired tactics that engender hatred and intolerance. Yet we grieve every time something so unthinkable transpires.
 
My daughter is in London and staying ONE MILE from London Bridge and .7 miles from Borough Market. They were out and I knew they were, but my daughter tries to keep her phone off to conserve data and turns it on mostly when she has wifi. So it was an anxious 20-30 minutes before she answered my texts!
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
My daughter is in London and staying ONE MILE from London Bridge and .7 miles from Borough Market. They were out and I knew they were, but my daughter tries to keep her phone off to conserve data and turns it on mostly when she has wifi. So it was an anxious 20-30 minutes before she answered my texts!
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Oh my gosh DS I am so glad you heard from her! But what an awful 30 mins.
 
It was kind of surreal because we really didn't think anything would happen since there have been two fairly recent attacks. I was not going to let fear keep me from allowing her this wonderful opportunity to visit her best friend in London, but gosh, I am done with trips to Europe.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
It was kind of surreal because we really didn't think anything would happen since there have been two fairly recent attacks. I was not going to let fear keep me from allowing her this wonderful opportunity to visit her best friend in London, but gosh, I am done with trips to Europe.
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She has to be so scared right now. Keeping you and her in my thoughts. And I am sure you will be glad when she is home.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
It was kind of surreal because we really didn't think anything would happen since there have been two fairly recent attacks. I was not going to let fear keep me from allowing her this wonderful opportunity to visit her best friend in London, but gosh, I am done with trips to Europe.
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I'm with you. My daughter wanted to go to Sweden and London this summer - Absolutely NOT. I'm sorry you had an uncomfortable time before hearing from her. Glad she's ok.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
It was kind of surreal because we really didn't think anything would happen since there have been two fairly recent attacks. I was not going to let fear keep me from allowing her this wonderful opportunity to visit her best friend in London, but gosh, I am done with trips to Europe.
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Oh, ds, your precious daughter! I feel as if it could have been my daughter. We have talked about our daughters for years and years and years. My daughter went to London on a school trip in high school. It was her first time far away from home for as long as a week! But things seemed safer then, even though it was after 9/11! Europe was just not such a hotbed of constant attacks!

I am so glad your daughter is safe and so sorry for all the other sons and daughters of people who are not safe!

Hugs,
Deb
 
DS, so glad your girl is safe.

Six innocents killed, plus at least 30 in hospital. They killed the three known killers. Brave London officers.

Authorities seem to think there will be more arrests.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
My daughter is in London and staying ONE MILE from London Bridge and .7 miles from Borough Market. They were out and I knew they were, but my daughter tries to keep her phone off to conserve data and turns it on mostly when she has wifi. So it was an anxious 20-30 minutes before she answered my texts!
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My stomach did flip flops just reading that. So glad to hear she's ok.
 
The follow up on this will be interesting. Why did the attackers wear fake suicide vests? To ensure they wouldn't get shot by police who would fear the explosions would harm others? ISIL wouldn't care. Something fishy about this.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
My daughter is in London and staying ONE MILE from London Bridge and .7 miles from Borough Market. They were out and I knew they were, but my daughter tries to keep her phone off to conserve data and turns it on mostly when she has wifi. So it was an anxious 20-30 minutes before she answered my texts!
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DS, Glad to hear that your daughter is ok, but sadden to hear that there are so many victims.
 
I was in London for a day trip, and was home getting comfy for the evening when the news of the attacks broke, and my heart sank.

Thinking of those affected by the latest events.

DK :(
 
Alex T said:
So tonight, after alluding me for 12 years due to me being over sees or on holiday, my husband surprised me with tickets to see Robbie Williams in Manchester. It was THE most awesome night, culminating with lots of snot from me as he sang Hey Jude, which was played at my fathers funeral 15 years ago. The security officer in the High Visibility vest handed me tissues. It was emotional & awesome & everything I wanted Robbie to be...

We get home to the news of terrorist attacks in London. A van has run into pedestrians & then people got out of that van & started to stab people. There are multiple fatalities. I am saddened & shocked & disgusted...
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Good for you for getting on with life and not being cowed by any threat. I'm thoroughly disgusted and appalled by the attacks, these people have a really skewed view of life. Kudos to the emergency services who have stepped up again, and to the police, who shot the attackers within 8 minutes of getting the call.

(I saw Robbie along with Take That a couple of years ago, he was fantastic!)
 
DS, I am so relieved to hear that your daughter is ok! My heart goes out to everyone involved in this tragedy.
 
I'm so glad that your daughter is ok, although I can imagine what must've been going through your mind during the anxious wait to hear.

I've never been more glad that my DS is now living in the US.

7 people now confirmed dead, lots of people still critically wounded.

The reason the security forces don't think this attack is linked, is because they think this is a copy-cat attack, hence the fake suicide vests. Descriptions of the attackers don't seem 'typical' either.

Yet again our fantastic Police and emergency service were on the scene in minutes and dealt with them. Even people in the restaurants that were targeted fought back.

We have an election on Thursday, which they say will go ahead.

Waking up to the news this morning just leaves me wondering if it'll ever end.
 
Thanks for all your kind thoughts regarding my daughter. Queenie, she asked me three times during the semester if she could go to London to visit her friend who repeatedly invited her. On the third time in April, I told her it was not safe for young women to travel alone to Europe (and many other places due to sex trafficking, for one thing), and that I was only concerned for her safety. She asked if her boyfriend went with her, would that make a difference. I said okay. He is wonderful and her friend said they had a sofa he could sleep on, so I felt better with him going (and his mom is probably ready to strangle me! (not really, we love his parents)

So now I check the news this morning to see the latest, and I have to decide whether to encourage them to go on with their plans. They have the Shard tickets tonight, Les Mis tickets for tomorrow night, and Sky Garden tickets for Tuesday night, museums mostly left for the daytime. They have been there a week and are coming home Thursday. I really, really want to say, go ahead and do everything you have planned. The mother's heart wants to say to stay inside for the next 5 days! But I want them to make the best of this trip, because I have a feeling it will be the last to Europe. Things are getting worse, not better. To all our UK friends, I hope they can figure out a way to stop this, and I am very sad for what is happening there. Stay safe.
 
My thought is that the terrorists thought they'd be more feared with the suicide vests on. I am just glad they killed them and I surely hope the police are sure it was only three.
 
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Good for you for getting on with life and not being cowed by any threat. I'm thoroughly disgusted and appalled by the attacks, these people have a really skewed view of life. Kudos to the emergency services who have stepped up again, and to the police, who shot the attackers within 8 minutes of getting the call.

(I saw Robbie along with Take That a couple of years ago, he was fantastic!)
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+1 (although I can't claim the Robbie part)

Diamondseeker - I'm so glad your daughter is ok. What a terrible feeling.

My heart goes out to all the victims and their families, and my thanks to the quick thinking and courageous police and first responders.

As someone who has lived in New York or London my entire adult life (close enough to the WTC to hear the planes hit and then in London on 7/7), I want to gently remind people that we (and all of our children) are in much more danger every time we get into our own cars than of being caught up in a terrorist incident. I understand the fear, but please be sensible but continue to live and enjoy everything Europe has to offer- don't let fear win.

What a crazy world.
 
Another sad, senseless attack, I'm glad your daughter is O.K DS but I echo the sentiments of Jaaron, fearing travelling to Europe is pointless, Americans are statistically far more likely to be killed or injured by someone in the US with a gun than they ever will be in Europe in an act of terror. Fear and panic is allowing terrorism to win.
 
Fear does not rule my life. Good sense does. Statistics on a broad scale are meaningless as degree of danger has a whole lot to do with choices we make and the risks we take. However, there certainly can be random acts of violence anywhere.

I am telling my daughter to try to do all the things they had planned to do before they return Thursday while being very vigilant of their surroundings, which is what I told her before she went.
 
Diamond Seeker, You must have been scared to death last evening. I'm sorry you had to go thru that and so happy that you dear daughter is safe and well. It's such a scary world today.

Jaaron, Austina and Alex, I'm glad you are safe and so sorry for all you are feeling right now. Like everyone else has said it is so hard for us to wrap our head around the fact that this has become the world we live in. These random acts are senseless and horrible. It's impossible for us to understand how anyone could hurt innocent people.
 
I have lived in either London or Manchester all my life so have grown up with terrorist events being something to be aware of, first the IRA and more recently Islamic terrorism. I understand the fear a lot of people feel about travelling here, but I point blank refuse to change my lifestyle out of fear when the way I live my life is entirely normal, inoffensive and harmless to others.

I feel unbelievably angry about these continued attacks. But on the deepest level, what I feel is pity and incomprehension - I truly do not understand how people can hate those they don't know (and sometimes live amongst but choose not to get to know) to such an extreme extent. What a horrible, pitiful way to live a life that could be put to a beautiful, loving, compassionate use. I feel beyond sad that people can choose to live life full of such hatred for others.

I have no idea how we can stop this, make things better or at least reach some kind of workable solution. I only hope to god that someone does, and does it quickly.
 
I am keeping everyone in my thoughts and prayers and grateful all PSers and their children are safe and sound. I agree we cannot stop living our lives or live in fear as that is what the terrorists want. I agree with you @lissyflo. I feel sorry for people who are capable of such hatred towards others.

@diamondseeker thank goodness your DD is safe! Yes we must be smart and vigilant and use common sense. (((Hugs))).
 
Deb, just wanted to say I'm really happy your daughter is safe and sound.

To the people who didn't make it home and their loved ones, it's so sad and I hope something drastic changes soon. The world can't possibly sustain all this grief.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
My daughter is in London and staying ONE MILE from London Bridge and .7 miles from Borough Market. They were out and I knew they were, but my daughter tries to keep her phone off to conserve data and turns it on mostly when she has wifi. So it was an anxious 20-30 minutes before she answered my texts!
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DS, I'm so sorry you had to go through that! :blackeye:
I can't even imagine the anxiety you must have felt.
 
Thank you all so very much for your caring comments. It was hard for me to believe that it actually happened. There are many families suffering today, and we are the lucky ones.

My daughter and her boyfriend had tickets to the Shard last night, and they went and were turned away because they said they had a private event. It was weird because they had just bought the tickets the day before. They said to come back tonight. They went back to the flat which is less than a mile from the attacks and then all went out with friends to get milkshakes. They didn't know what was happening until my daughter finally checked her messages. Oh, and by the way, the Shard immediately south of the London Bridge, so they could have been right in the midst of it all. This mom is THANKFUL!
 
I got chills reading your last post Diamond Seeker. Please give that child lots of hugs when she arrives home.
 
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