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MilMedDoc

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Hi everyone, this is my first post!

I''ve been doing some lurking lately like thousands of others lol and this site is SO useful. So first, thanks everyone for all the information that can be found here.

Why am I here? Well, I''m going to propose to my girlfriend soon and that means it''s ring time! We of course went to Tiffany''s some time ago basically so I could get an idea of what kind of ring she wants. She fell in love with the Novo.

Now, I know I can get more ring for less money if I don''t get it from there so I have turned to the internet for information. My budget is 13-15k and my time fram is I need it by mid-March. Here''s what I have so far from PriceScope:

1.) Cut, cut, cut!! This seems to be the consensus all-important factor.
2.) WF and ERD are awesome. Especially "Mark" who apparently is a cushion cut expert and can find a Novo-like diamond for me.
3.) A Novo is essentially a square 8 main thin cushion brilliant in a platinum pave setting.
4.) I''m probably looking at ~1.6 Ct diamond for 13-15k in the G-H VS1-SI1(if eyeclean).

My main questions for you guys are: Are the above statements fairly accurate, Do you have any diamond suggestions, and do I need to know anything else that''s really important before I call this Mark fellow so I don''t sound like a total idiot? haha.

Thanks SO much in advance!!!
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Call Good Old Gold.
 
Why GOG over WF or ERD? Are they better known for their cushions?
 
Whiteflash is known primarily for their rounds, so I would not go to them first for a cushion. ERD can find you a cushion, but they don''t offer the same customer services of GOG, and personally I like those extra services, like great images of the diamond, videos of the diamond, a lifetime upgrade and buyback policy. And GOG has a nice Novo replica setting, from what I have seen. They sell something called a square hearts and arrows diamond that would be a good option, technically a cushion with an RB pavilion.

Brian Gavin Diamonds also has a really great novo replica, and they also sell a signature cushion, I don''t know if it is the same type of cushion as the novo.

Was it the setting she loved most or the cushion? I like a nice RB in BGDs novo replica, the optics would be awesome. That said, the GOG square H&A cushions have optics that rival rounds from the videos I have seen.
 
Thanks so much for the advice! I will try GOG first then and see what happens. And yea, that novo replica setting with a RB would be awesome, but my g/f says "everyone has a RB" so that''s not really an option. She loves the diamond and the setting. I just checked out the Square H&A and they look awesome, so I think I''ll start there.

Is the price premium for H&A worth it? I mean, is there a big difference between H&A and the next best? I''ve read some posts on here that say these signature cuts may not be worth the extra price they demand (sort of like Tiffany''s name.)
 
Keep in mind that when it comes to cushions, the H&A name for the diamonds at GOG is a little different than an H&A RB. If you are interested in cushions and not an RB, then ignore everything about RBs and focus on cushion information.

Cushions are not like RBs in that you cannot judge them based on the numbers, you have to see pictures and collect imaging information like ASET, but most of all I think you need to find a vendor you trust who can help you pick a stone.

To me, finding a great cushion seems like finding a needle in a haystack. You pay a premium for a signatue cut, like a square H&A or an August Vintage cushion, or for a BGD signature cushion, but you are buying a *known commodity* that will perform well from a vendor who will back their product. I feel like that is worth it. Others may disagree. The premium is no where Tiffs by the way, which is sometimes double the price. On a 1ct diamond, the premium for a signature or branded cut varies, but it is usually under $1k. The extra policies that come along with that (lifetime upgrades and buyback, excellent cutomer service, imaging etc) are worth it to me. You can feel differently.

The square H&A is a modern style of cushion. If you want something *really* unique, check out the August Vintage cushion that GOG has. It was developed recenlty and it is awesome! A chunkier look, but no one else would have a ring like that. It would look great in a Novo.
 
Yea, I see what you mean about buying a known performer. Really takes a lot of the guesswork out of it without seeing the diamond in person. I liked the diamond on the middle of the three in the video, I think the Novo was square like that, if not chunky. I like the chunky look though. Hmmm.

And I did not realize that the premium was that low, I was thinking it was much worse. Thanks so much for the links, they were extremely helpful. Now to spend hours checking out all those signature cushions you mentioned....
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Dreamer gave you great info! I personally love the August Vintage Cushions at GOG and old fashioned 8 main cushions, but I like the AVC b/c you know what you are getting and how it will perform.
 
God the light performance on RBs is amazing, and that octavia actually holds its own. Not really liking the look of concentric squares though.
 
Date: 1/29/2010 10:23:11 PM
Author: MilMedDoc
God the light performance on RBs is amazing, and that octavia actually holds its own. Not really liking the look of concentric squares though.
Well there you go, you eliinated one type of cut from all of them
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RBs are popular for a reason. It is true that everyone has an RB, but not everyone has an ideal cut RB. My diamond doesn''t look like any one I have ever seen and it is an amazing performer. But get what your GF wants, which sounds like something more unique.

That said, if I could do it all again I might get an August Vintage cushion. Spend some time watching the videos that GOG makes, they are so helpful! I have fun looking at them all the time.

http://www.vimeo.com/diamondinfo/videos

Here is a AV cushion and an RB : http://www.vimeo.com/8619979
 

double post! first time ever! LoL

 
Wow the AVC Actually out-performed the RB in my opinion! I definitely have to call GOG tomorrow. Ahh, getting too excited, need to be studying for Neuroscience... damn you medical school...

Oh no, they probably aren't open on weekends! Noooooo!

Also, nice work on the double post lol. You had a pretty impressive streak going at 7700+ w/o one.
 
Date: 1/29/2010 10:36:50 PM
Author: MilMedDoc
Wow the AVC Actually out-performed the RB in my opinion! I definitely have to call GOG tomorrow. Ahh, getting too excited, need to be studying for Neuroscience... damn you medical school...

Oh no, they probably aren''t open on weekends! Noooooo!

Also, nice work on the double post lol. You had a pretty impressive streak going at 7700+ w/o one.
I think some vendors are open on Saturday, so you could be lucky!

I really covet the AV cushions, one day I want one myself. Try a search on PS for "August Vintage cushion" and you will see many threads with photos. I think a close to 20 PSers own them now? And the cut has only been available for 6 months or so, I think.
 
That BGD setting is beautiful! I saw that ring during my initial lurking time on here before registering. I can't decide how square it really is. I think I like the more rounded look of the AVC (probably because I think RBs are amazing and want to get something closer to it lol).

Looking at the Square H&As though, and I think I could deal with a very square diamond if it looked like that! I wish they had the prices shown... makes me think the 1.7 Ct G SI1 one that I am eyeing is going to be like 20k
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Yet, I find myself coming back to the AVC.... this is so much fun and I don't even get to wear it!
 
I don''t think the square H&As are that much. I do think that from a distance or once set, though, that they would pretty much look like an RB.
 
Date: 1/29/2010 10:54:12 PM
Author: MilMedDoc
That BGD setting is beautiful! I saw that ring during my initial lurking time on here before registering. I can''t decide how square it really is. I think I like the more rounded look of the AVC (probably because I think RBs are amazing and want to get something closer to it lol).

Looking at the Square H&As though, and I think I could deal with a very square diamond if it looked like that! I wish they had the prices shown... makes me think the 1.7 Ct G SI1 one that I am eyeing is going to be like 20k
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Yet, I find myself coming back to the AVC.... this is so much fun and I don''t even get to wear it!
Sounds like the AVC is what to concentrate on!
 
After some careful consideration, I have settled on a combination for you guys' opinions! Let me know what you think!

Diamond: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6984/

Square H&A 1.71Ct

Setting: http://shop.goodoldgold.com/index.cfm/a/catalog.prodshow/vid/46574/catid/298

Gabriel & Co. Platinum Pave
 
Date: 1/30/2010 2:42:36 PM
Author: MilMedDoc
After some careful consideration, I have settled on a combination for you guys'' opinions! Let me know what you think!

Diamond: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6984/

Square H&A 1.71Ct

Setting: http://shop.goodoldgold.com/index.cfm/a/catalog.prodshow/vid/46574/catid/298

Gabriel & Co. Platinum Pave
Well it looks great! Do you mind sharing the price of the diamond? I am curious how it comared to an RB.

Two things I just wanted to point out. 1) those square H&As (and all cushions) face up smaller than RBs. Your cushion is just a smidgeon smaller than a 1.2ct RB in face up size. and 2) What does the head look like on the solitaire you chose? The novo has a very open and swoopy head and just wanted to make surey ou are getting something similar!
 
$13,932.14

On GOG, if you click "Reserve Diamond" it will show you the price on the next page, then just click the trashcan to remove it from your cart. It''s like Amazon where you have to click to see the price lol.

And as far as the setting, yea, it won''t be exactly like the Novo but that''s okay, I like the look of the Gabriel one a lot and I''m sure my g/f will love it.

Thanks so much for your advice so far!
 
Date: 1/30/2010 3:37:55 PM
Author: MilMedDoc
$13,932.14

On GOG, if you click 'Reserve Diamond' it will show you the price on the next page, then just click the trashcan to remove it from your cart. It's like Amazon where you have to click to see the price lol.

And as far as the setting, yea, it won't be exactly like the Novo but that's okay, I like the look of the Gabriel one a lot and I'm sure my g/f will love it.

Thanks so much for your advice so far!
You are welcome! Interesting to know the price. For the face up dimensions, they do cost more than RBs of similar face up size, which would be more like $8000 (for a 1.2ct G SI1). In an RB for that price you could get a 1.5ct RB with a face up mm size of 7.4mm.

I think you gf will LOVE what you have chosen! Please come back with hand shots. Oh, and if you want the diamond you selected be sure to put it on hold. Lurkers often snatch up diamonds that get talked about here
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ETA Here is a link to a square H&A set in a pave setting too! https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/diamond-from-gog-arrives-today.132098/
 
Alright, got it reserved! Now just waiting till they re-open on Tuesday to get them working on setting it. I''ll be sure to post a picture or two once I get it. Hand shots aren''t until March haha.
 
Date: 1/31/2010 1:09:52 PM
Author: MilMedDoc
Alright, got it reserved! Now just waiting till they re-open on Tuesday to get them working on setting it. I''ll be sure to post a picture or two once I get it. Hand shots aren''t until March haha.
Congratulations!!!!
 
How will you possibly wait until March!
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Good luck.
 
Congrats!
 
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