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[Diamonds Forever]

I need some opinions. Is it crazy to want a D Flawless ideal stone. I know that I would have to come down in size but it seems to be a mindset with me. I am really wrestling with this as I know that D E and F are colorless but I keep wanting the D color.

Any opinions.

 

[msbennie]

If that's what you truly want...get the "D" color, otherwise you will never be happy with another color!

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Hi,

I have a D stone and it is very beautiful and definetly looks "whiter," as in more colorless than my G stone under many lightings, but ONLY when placed up next to my G stone

lol On it's own, my G looks VERY colorless as well! But, I think if you really want creme of the crop, than go for it. . .As far as the D flawless idea, this seems a bit excessive so I would probably weigh the pro's and con's of how much smaller the stone would be to afford such a color/clarity combination.

Out of curiosity, how much smaller would the stone have to be (as in approx. what carat weight are you looking at) to be able to afford a D flawless/near flawless color stone?

Michelle

 

[Dancing Fire]

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On 8/26/2004 9:51:16 PM Diamonds Forever wrote:

I need some opinions. Is it crazy to want a D Flawless ideal stone. I know that I would have to come down in size but it seems to be a mindset with me. I am really wrestling with this as I know that D E and F are colorless but I keep wanting the D color.

Any opinions.----------------

If that's what you really want,then go for it!!!... make sure to get one with an AGS cert 0 cut and post the picture of the cert and the ring,love to see a true 000. pretty rare.

 

[Todd07]

Since a D flawless is an expensive want

due to it's rarity, have you visited a jeweler and compared? Many people who post confirm they can't tell the difference and thus spend their $ where they can see a difference (better cut and bigger size)

 

[Diamonds Forever]

I would probably have to go between 1/2 to 3/4 carat. If I go down in color and clarity I would probably go to 1 carat.
What are you thoughts.

 

[quaeritur]

You should go for what really makes you happy. I'm a D girl all the way... I could maybe "settle" for an E, but Ds are what make my day. I can really tell the difference with a G, but not between a D and E. So the D is a mental thing over the E, but it's a "I can see the difference" over the G.

I often wish I didn't like the Ds so much, but every time, when it comes right down to it, that's what I want, and I'm happy to compromise on size and clarity to get it.

Just make sure that it's truly what you want before dropping the extra cash or going down in size. It's no better if you end up dissatisfied because the D you get is smaller than you really want!

 

[sevens one]

http://www.goodoldgold.com/1_214ct_d_si1_h%26a.htm


Here's one if you want to consider an SI1

 

[sevens one]

http://www.goodoldgold.com/1_151ct_d_si1_h%26a.htm

or this

 

[sevens one]

What's your budget?

 

[kevinng]

You want a perfect stone!

This is it:

1.16ct D VVS2

I don't think a FL or IF is necessary. Some people have bionic vision and can see inclusions in a VS diamond... but I have never heard of anyone seeing imperfections in a VVS diamond with their naked eyes.

My girlfriend can see the difference between a D and an F in pretty poor lighting. Some people just have very good vision...

But I don't think anyone can spot any flaws in the stone above. If I were looking for a 1ct diamond, I'd buy this one in a minute.

 

[wonka27]

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On 8/27/2004 9:30:48 AM kevinng wrote:

You want a perfect stone!

This is it:

1.16ct D VVS2

I don't think a FL or IF is necessary. Some people have bionic vision and can see inclusions in a VS diamond... but I have never heard of anyone seeing imperfections in a VVS diamond with their naked eyes.

My girlfriend can see the difference between a D and an F in pretty poor lighting. Some people just have very good vision...

But I don't think anyone can spot any flaws in the stone above. If I were looking for a 1ct diamond, I'd buy this one in a minute.----------------

Now that is a stone that would be hard to beat! It must be spectacular!

 

[sevens one]

Yeah, but it's about twice as much as the SI1.

Go check out some stones and see what your eye tells you.
IF-VVS1 may be the only acceptable choice for you.
Either way- A D is going to be beautiful. Just ask Q!

 

[kevinng]

A VS stone is the lowest I would go. I know... most people cannot spot the inclusions in an SI diamond face up. However, if we wear the diamond everyday, we look at it from the sides, in all sorts of angles.. and I bet the inclusions will just become more obvious day by day... Such things bug me. I'd certainly pay a bit more and go for a VS diamond. And yes... that's a personal preference.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

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On 8/26/2004 11:46:32 PM Diamonds Forever wrote:

I would probably have to go between 1/2 to 3/4 carat. If I go down in color and clarity I would probably go to 1 carat.
What are you thoughts.----------------

Hi, as a person with a D stone, I'd say, it'd be worth it to GO DOWN in color/clarity and get the best cut, .9-.99 stone you can afford

. Slightly under the one carat mark saves you money as stones weighing 1.+ have a price hike. Honestly, an E or an F, VS2 or SI 1 (eye clean) PERFECTLY CUT, will look gorgeous and will still look immaculatly colorless and you should be able to get a larger stone this way.

Good luck in making up your mind and I hope you find a stone that you love!

You may also want to post your budget so people can provide better stone examples. . .13K does sound more than what a 1/2 D color stone would cost, so I'm guessing your budget is around 3-4K

Michelle

 

[Diamonds Forever]

Actually I figure that my husband has budgeted about $7000 to $8000 for the stone. I did not budget the setting into that but I do want a top notch setting for this stone but that is a whole different thread.

 

[quaeritur]

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On 8/27/2004 9:38:53 AM sevens one wrote:

Yeah, but it's about twice as much as the SI1.

Go check out some stones and see what your eye tells you.
IF-VVS1 may be the only acceptable choice for you.
Either way- A D is going to be beautiful. Just ask Q!----------------

 

[quaeritur]

Dang it, Kevin, that stone's supposed to stay secret until I save 13K. Only another 5-6 years, ok?

(did you notice the medium blue?!?!)

Yep, if I had the money, that's the stone I'd get. Dunno what I'd do with it, but I'd worry about that later

.

Now about the SI1... my stone is an SI1 and even with my very good vision, I can't see the inclusions. But it's true that it's a matter of taste, and where your comfort zone is. I absolutely believe that there are completely eye-clean -from all sides- SI1s and even SI2s out there, and they are a GREAT value!

 

[MichelleCarmen]

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On 8/27/2004 5:58:13 PM Diamonds Forever wrote:

Actually I figure that my husband has budgeted about $7000 to $8000 for the stone. I did not budget the setting into that but I do want a top notch setting for this stone but that is a whole different thread.----------------

With this budget, then you surely can get a GOOD sized stone! Here's a stone that's only in the 4K range that is around the size you mentioned above as being the size you'd have to do with. . .

.76 D vs1 from GOG


Seriously, I think with 7-8K, and a bit of patience, you should be able to find a D, VS range stone weighing in just under one carat. I checked the .9-.99 sizes at the good old gold site and only four RBs are listed and all are I-J color. My advice to you would be to call GOG directly, tell them what you're looking for and have them find you a fireball of a stone that is D-E and a great size! You've got a healthy budget and it sounds like EVEN if you sacrifice *a bit* of clarity, down to the VS1-2 range, you still can get a colorless stone of just under a carat that is STILL excellent clarity.

Michelle

 

[kevinng]

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On 8/27/2004 6:06:48 PM quaeritur wrote:

Dang it, Kevin, that stone's supposed to stay secret until I save 13K. Only another 5-6 years, ok?

(did you notice the medium blue?!?!)

Yep, if I had the money, that's the stone I'd get. Dunno what I'd do with it, but I'd worry about that later

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Now about the SI1... my stone is an SI1 and even with my very good vision, I can't see the inclusions. But it's true that it's a matter of taste, and where your comfort zone is. I absolutely believe that there are completely eye-clean -from all sides- SI1s and even SI2s out there, and they are a GREAT value!----------------

Actually, I did notice the Medium Blue on the cert... and the first person I thought of was you.

 

[aljdewey]

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On 8/27/2004 9:30:48 AM kevinng wrote:

You want a perfect stone!


This is it:

1.16ct D VVS2


I don't think a FL or IF is necessary. Some people have bionic vision and can see inclusions in a VS diamond... but I have never heard of anyone seeing imperfections in a VVS diamond with their naked eyes.


My girlfriend can see the difference between a D and an F in pretty poor lighting. Some people just have very good vision...


But I don't think anyone can spot any flaws in the stone above. If I were looking for a 1ct diamond, I'd buy this one in a minute.----------------

Honestly, I don't think is about what she can "see"....it's about what she sees on paper. And that being so, D/VVS isn't perfect, because the paper doesn't say it is.

Some people need to satisfy their mental quotient, and I think that's why D, FL is important to her.

If were to start going down the path of what she can "see" or discern a difference on, I'm sure D/FL wouldn't matter as much as it seems to.