nervous buyer

[ice-9]

I would appreciate input on this diamond from Robbin''s Brothers.
I just started looking and after roaming this website, this diamond sounds expensive! But my fiancee likes it. She wants a ''shiny diamond'' that attracts attention as she wants a simple tension setting - like the one from Movado.

1.56 carat
E color
SI1 clarity
excellent cut (elexsys.sp?)

very good polish
girdle medium to thick
60% table
60% depth
medium blue fluorescence

$15000

Is this that bad of a price?
If I order one online with VS1 clarity and excellent polish, everything else equal, will it probably be a brighter diamond when light reflects off of it?

Any input is welcome!https://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/images/smilies/36.gif
Thank you.

 

[stone-cold11]

Do you have a the crown and pavilion angle of that stone? we can''t really tell the performance from just the numbers given.

Price could be ok, depending on the actual cut performance.

 

[:)]

1. please do a thread search on robbins bros to read of other consumer''s experiences with them before you do anything else.
2. What lab did the grading report?
3. what were the pavillion angle, crown angle, girdle measurements?
4. Yes the price is high. You can ''pricescope your diamond'' at the top of the page to get an idea of comparable prices. Unless the stone was graded by GIA or AGS, you should compare prices to EGL.
5. Read the advanced tutorials under the knowledge button at the top of the page.
6. CUT is what makes a diamond sparkle (angles and light reflecting)

Welcome to pricescope! You will learn more about diamonds here than you ever dreamed you could!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/26/2009 7:49:53 PM
Author:ice-9
I would appreciate input on this diamond from Robbin's Brothers.
I just started looking and after roaming this website, this diamond sounds expensive! But my fiancee likes it. She wants a 'shiny diamond' that attracts attention as she wants a simple tension setting - like the one from Movado.

1.56 carat
E color
SI1 clarity
excellent cut (elexsys.sp?)

very good polish
girdle medium to thick
60% table
60% depth
medium blue fluorescence

$15000

Is this that bad of a price?
If I order one online with VS1 clarity and excellent polish, everything else equal, will it probably be a brighter diamond when light reflects off of it?

Any input is welcome!https://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/images/smilies/36.gif
Thank you.

Welcome ice!

That is a 60 60 type of diamond you have posted which some buyers like ( 60 depth 60 table), but we need the crown and pavilion angles as those are critical and the diameter measurements, symmetry grade to get a better picture. 60/60 diamonds can be very bright and brilliant diamonds, but the angles will tell us more.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 1/27/2009 12:52:21 AM
Author:
1. please do a thread search on robbins bros to read of other consumer''s experiences with them before you do anything else.
2. What lab did the grading report?
3. what were the pavillion angle, crown angle, girdle measurements?
4. Yes the price is high. You can ''pricescope your diamond'' at the top of the page to get an idea of comparable prices. Unless the stone was graded by GIA or AGS, you should compare prices to EGL.
5. Read the advanced tutorials under the knowledge button at the top of the page.
6. CUT is what makes a diamond sparkle (angles and light reflecting)

Welcome to pricescope! You will learn more about diamonds here than you ever dreamed you could!

Ditto to all!

 

[chrono]

I was going to add my 2 cents but everyone else has it covered.

Just because you are getting a higher clarity and colour doesn't mean the stone will sparkle more. It is the cut that makes the stone sparkle, ie the combination of facet angles. By getting information on the table, depth, crown angle and crown height will help everyone here determine how good or poor the cut may be.

ETA
If it is a true tension ring (no bridge connecting the shank under the diamond), I highly suggest getting at least a VS2 stone with a medium girdle or better for several reasons.
1. The more included the stone, the "weaker" it is. Also, a thicker girdle helps with the extreme tension needed to "hold" the diamond.
2. I'm not sure how bothered you might be to see inclusions that might be easily seen from the exposed sides of the tension ring.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/27/2009 10:29:41 AM
Author: Chrono
I was going to add my 2 cents but everyone else has it covered.

Just because you are getting a higher clarity and colour doesn''t mean the stone will sparkle more. It is the cut that makes the stone sparkle, ie the combination of facet angles. By getting information on the table, depth, crown angle and crown height will help everyone here determine how good or poor the cut may be,

In a nutshell!!

 

[chrono]

Hey, you jumped in before I was done.

Nah, I'm just an old fogie who just remembered another piece of advice to share. Just pulling your string, that's all.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/27/2009 10:34:44 AM
Author: Chrono
Hey, you jumped in before I was done.

Nah, I''m just an old fogie who just remembered another piece of advice to share. Just pulling your string, that''s all.

OOOPS!!!!

 

[ice-9]

Thank everyone. I''m very impressed by the quick advice.

It is GIA certified.

I will get the angles and measurements today.

The setting has a bridge underneath it that does not touch the diamond (not a true tension; I believe it''s called floating?).

Looks somewhat like the popular Movado one.

It is important not to see inclusions with the naked eye. I couldn''t, but I have the vision a mole.

I really appreciate the input. I feel better already.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/27/2009 1:45:08 PM
Author: ice-9
Thank everyone. I''m very impressed by the quick advice.

It is GIA certified.

I will get the angles and measurements today.

The setting has a bridge underneath it that does not touch the diamond (not a true tension; I believe it''s called floating?).

Looks somewhat like the popular Movado one.

It is important not to see inclusions with the naked eye. I couldn''t, but I have the vision a mole.

I really appreciate the input. I feel better already.

So do I!

And you are most welcome!

 

[Allison D.]

Ice-9, I just want to caution you a bit. The GIA doesn''t ''certify'' anything; it offers a professional opinion with respect to elements of the stone conveyed through a grading report.

I know there can be a tendency in some local retail environments to hear them referred to as "certified", and that unfortunately conveys a mistaken impression that the GIA attests the elements as true.

The info on the grading report is certainly valuable, but it''s important to understand that it''s a professional opinion and not a guarantee or certification.

Good luck with your search.