Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSCOPE

[tinv]

I would like your opinions on these two stones (that will be used for earrings for my mother). Both are 0.90 carat and I colour with Si2 clarity. They are both GIA triple EXCELLENCE.

HCA 1.6 (EX,EX,EX, VG)
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4721749-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

HCA 2.6 (VG, VG, VG, VG)
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4964074-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

B2C is a drop shipper but for these two stones, they happen to have the actual diamond pictures, ASET and IDEALSCOPE images. Please have a look at them and help me decide if these stones are worth buying. Thank you for your time.

 

[Lorelei]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC

Hi Tinv,

I think these could be excellent choices for your purposes, I would check with B2C that the diamonds are eye clean and that the clarity grade making cloud on the first diamond isn't causing a loss of brilliance. If they check out then they could make a superb pair of earrings, well done!

 

[tinv]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC

One of the diamond turns out to be milky so the staff at B2C picks another stone for me. This is the specs of the new stones (diamond1):

HCA 3.4 (VG,G,G, VG) *replacement*
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-5098243-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-G-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

HCA 2.6 (VG, VG, VG, VG)
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4964074-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

Both stones are eye-clean Si2
The replacement stone (diamond1) scores an 3.4 (VG,G,G,VG) on the HCA and I have requested the ideal scope images below. What do you think?
Would the G colour and medium fluorescence goes well with the I colour with no fluorescence as an eating pair?

 

[Lorelei]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC

One of the diamond turns out to be milky so the staff at B2C picks another stone for me. This is the specs of the new stones (diamond1):

HCA 3.4 (VG,G,G, VG) *replacement*
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-5098243-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-G-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

HCA 2.6 (VG, VG, VG, VG)
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4964074-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

Both stones are eye-clean Si2
The replacement stone (diamond1) scores an 3.4 (VG,G,G,VG) on the HCA and I have requested the ideal scope images below. What do you think?
Would the G colour and medium fluorescence goes well with the I colour with no fluorescence as an eating pair?

That's a shame the first didn't check out, disappointing but that's the name of the game. The replacement diamond *might* be ok, I can see leakage under the table due to the angle combo and potentially some other factors....The essential proportions that need to match are there, I am not so concerned about the G colour as it could be a decent balance with an I colour , personally I would prefer the I colour to have medium fluorescence and the G to have none as the blue fluorescence in I colour might help balance things out a bit and possibly make the I colour look a little whiter in some lighting.

I think let's get the Idealscope for the second original diamond so we can compare how strong the performance is of that one compared to the replacement then we can go from there, also ask B2C if they can suggest any others scoring below 2 HCA that might be a suitable match for the other diamond.

 

[Lorelei]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC

See if you can find out if these are eye clean, don't have issues such as milkiness if applicable due to any inclusions and get Idealscope images if so.

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-5053233-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-I1-clarity.aspx

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-5025676-0.91-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-I1-clarity.aspx

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4975289-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-I1-clarity.aspx

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-5107515-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-VS2-clarity.aspx

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4975289-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-I1-clarity.aspx ( cloud inclusion, check carefully for transparency issues).

 

[proto]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC


I dont like this new replacement diamond because I think the crown angles do not appear to match the pavillion angle, and this is what is making the contrast arrows appear much lighter in colour than you would ordinarily expect.

I think this will affect scintillation as you wont get the dark contrast to bright on the table.

http://www.cutstudy.com/cut/english/dc/movie10.html for a movie of how changes to the crown and pavillion affect the appearance of the diamond.

I am sure they is a more eloquent explanation, but someone more technical will have to explain.

 

[tinv]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC

@lorelei - if you click on the link for the original 2nd diamond, the idealscope image is there.

 

[Lorelei]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC

@lorelei - if you click on the link for the original 2nd diamond, the idealscope image is there.

It's showing now tinv, thanks, earlier the images weren't loading but I do get these glitches quite a bit. I like this diamond as a contender for one of the studs and I think we can do better than the replacement diamond within budget, see if B2C can suggest another which is better cut or take a look at the stones I suggested above. If we can't find anything better then we can consider that one but I think the way to proceed is to explore some other options.

 

[tinv]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC

B2C has found another diamond for me. The new stone has table size of 59% while the other has table size of 55%. Do you think these two diamonds makes a good pair. Please note the diameter, depth %.

Diamond 1:
HCA 1.1 (EX, EX, EX, EX)
6.25 - 6.28 x 3.74 mm
Table: 59%
Depth: 59.7%
Crown Angle: 33
Pavilion Angle: 40.8


Diamond2:
HCA 2.6 (VG, VG, VG, VG)
6.16 - 6.19 x 3.86 mm
Table: 55%
Depth: 62.5%
Crown Angle: 35.5
Pavilion Angle: 40.8
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4964074-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

 

[tinv]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC

Would this diamond be a better match with Diamond 1 (than Diamond 2)? Again, please pay attention to the measurements. By the way, Diamond 1 is H-Si2, Diamond 2 is I-Si2 whereas Diamond 3 is J-Si2

Diamond 3:
HCA 2.8 (VG, VG, VG, VG)
6.13 - 6.16 x 3.82 mm
Table: 58%
Depth: 62.2%
Crown Angle: 35.5
Pavilion Angle: 40.8
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-5001298-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

Thank you everyone in advance for your help.

 

[Lorelei]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC

B2C has found another diamond for me. The new stone has table size of 59% while the other has table size of 55%. Do you think these two diamonds makes a good pair. Please note the diameter, depth %.

Diamond 1:
HCA 1.1 (EX, EX, EX, EX)
6.25 - 6.28 x 3.74 mm
Table: 59%
Depth: 59.7%
Crown Angle: 33
Pavilion Angle: 40.8


Diamond2:
HCA 2.6 (VG, VG, VG, VG)
6.16 - 6.19 x 3.86 mm
Table: 55%
Depth: 62.5%
Crown Angle: 35.5
Pavilion Angle: 40.8
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4964074-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

For me, these don't make the best pair unfortunately, although you could pair them as they are earrings and the difference in the depth and table size probably wouldn't be noticeable, I would prefer the diameters and table measurements to be a closer match. I know this is difficult on your budget for the size you want, you are doing a great job trying to match a lovely pair for your Mother!

 

[Lorelei]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC

Would this diamond be a better match with Diamond 1 (than Diamond 2)? Again, please pay attention to the measurements. By the way, Diamond 1 is H-Si2, Diamond 2 is I-Si2 whereas Diamond 3 is J-Si2

Diamond 3:
HCA 2.8 (VG, VG, VG, VG)
6.13 - 6.16 x 3.82 mm
Table: 58%
Depth: 62.2%
Crown Angle: 35.5
Pavilion Angle: 40.8
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-5001298-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

Thank you everyone in advance for your help.

We need an Idealscope image for this diamond which B2C might be able to supply on request, this stone is going to face up a bit smaller than number 1, it might make a match with number 2 if the image checks out, assuming any of these SI2 are verified eye clean to your specifications.

 

[tinv]

We have found a matching pair for my mother. With her budget, I think this is probably the best I can do. The total for 2 stones is $5,772. The bank is closed now I will have to wait until tomorrow to wire the money. It is perfect as I have time tonight to get everyone opinion. Both diamonds are confirmed eye-clean.

Diamond 1:

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4964074-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI2-clarity.aspx?cid=DiamPS&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Carat Weight:0.90
Cut:Excellent
Color:I
Clarity:SI2
Depth:62.50
Table:55.00
Crown:35.5
Pavillion:40.8
Polish:Excellent
Symmetry:Excellent
Girdle:M-STK
Culet:None
Fluorescence:None
Measurements:6.16x6.19x3.86


Diamond 2:

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4964076-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-SI2-clarity.aspx?cid=DiamPS&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Carat Weight:0.90
Cut:Excellent
Color:J
Clarity:SI2
Depth:62.30
Table:56.00
Crown:36
Pavillion:40.8
Polish:Excellent
Symmetry:Excellent
Girdle:TN-M
Culet:None
Fluorescence:Faint
Measurements:6.15x6.20x3.85

Thank you everyone for your time.

 

[Lorelei]

Re: Need your opinion on these two stones - ASET and IDEALSC

Hi Tinv,

I think this pair will work, assuming they are verified eye clean with no loss of transparency or brilliance issues from someone at B2C. You have put a lot of work into this and with the size requirements for the budget, if the above mentioned points check out, that you have probably found the right stones for you Mother, well done! Also ask someone at B2C to check how they look as a pair, I can't see any flags but best to ask, I think if you get the thumbs up, you have done extremely well!